# Allegedly hot chicks/studs whose appeal escapes you **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 19, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630 "2009-04-19T16:48:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/61 "2009-04-19T23:02:31Z")
> [@mr.jp](#): > > Ok, now this thread is getting ridiculous. Her body may be older now, but when she was in Friends. Come on. I always thought Lisa Kudrow was the loveliest of the 3 female Friends. Or, rather, that Phoebe was the sexiest of the three, as sexiness is not identical to physical beauty, and also derives at least as much from personality as from physicality. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/62 "2009-04-19T23:03:41Z")
It’s amusing to see the change in taste between this thread and the doper picture threads. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/63 "2009-04-19T23:04:54Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > Ewan McGregor’s been mentioned in this thread a few times, but I think part of his appeal is that he’s more a “boy next door” type than matinee idol handsome. Eh, I don’t think he’s even that. I’ve known several far more handsome guys in real life. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/64 "2009-04-19T23:06:42Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > He’s obviously in excellent physical condition; he has a nice aesthetic physique, one which is definitely appealing to women. I’m not denying any of that. But I’m pretty damn sure that he doesn’t lift weights in any serious way. Why exactly would anyone (besides you) give a rat’s ass if the boy lifts weights??? I don’t understand why that’s a criteria for saying that his body is not impressive and beautiful. When I look at a man’s body, I am not trying to figure out his exercise regimen. At all. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/65 "2009-04-19T23:10:02Z")
I think Jennifer Aniston looks better now than she ever did on Friends. Rosario Dawson isn’t my type, but I can see why people find her attractive. Another one for me is [Gong Li](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gong_li_moscow_edited.jpg). Not ugly by any means, but I just don’t see the real attraction. I also thought that she and Colin Farrell had _zero_ sexual chemistry in **Miami Vice**. > [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > I wrestled in high school; wrestlers have a lean build but they typically don’t have much real muscular development. A wrestler will have long, lean, sinewy muscles, but those are not the result of weightlifting, they are the result of simply having low body fat. > > Truly gaining muscle mass is near impossible, as a wrestler, because of the diet restrictions and the weight cutting. To gain muscle mass you must eat a surplus of calories every day. I can just about guarantee there is NO serious amateur wrestler who eats a surplus of calories. Errr . . . not to push this thread too far off topic, but I wrestled in high school too, and my experience was entirely different. Wrestlers come in all shapes and sizes, and a few on our team had _serious_ muscular development. Also, not all wrestlers drastically cut weight. Some actually bulk up to go up a weight, and _those_ guys looked like walking anatomy charts. And personally, I gained a lot of muscle mass on the team while dieting. Dieting doesn’t mean you won’t pack on muscle. It just means you won’t pack on fat. I assure you it is possible to gain muscle mass on a diet while wrestling, especially if you lift weights. And I have yet to meet the serious wrestler who doesn’t consider pumping iron to be a second religion. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/66 "2009-04-19T23:10:06Z")
**Argent Towers** , got any pictures of yourself? :dubious: (Who cares HOW the guy achieved it? It’s still sexy one way or another.) Ewan’s also got that cheeky glint in his eye, those lovely baby blues, and that beautiful, beautiful accent. How about back in the day: Tom Selleck? Seems like a nice guy, but never did a thing for me. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/67 "2009-04-19T23:15:48Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > How about back in the day: Tom Selleck? Seems like a nice guy, but never did a thing for me. On that note, did any woman actually _swoon_ over Arnold Schwarzenegger in the 80’s? He had a rippin’ bod, but kind of a buttisface, wasn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/68 "2009-04-19T23:22:05Z")
One of my friends had a crush on him when she was about eleven, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/69 "2009-04-19T23:34:46Z")
Quoth **Stranger on a Train** : > [@](#): > > When placed against Toni Collette playing the “ugly sister” (In Her Shoes; didn’t see the film but had to watch the preview an extraordinary number of times) I’d pick the latter any day of the week and twice on Sunday. It’s an absolute truism that whenever Hollywood makes a movie where one of the two female leads is supposed to be “the ugly one”, and the other is supposed to be “hot”, the “ugly” one will always, without exception, be the hotter of the two. Likewise, if the plot of a Hollywood movie involves an “ugly” woman becoming beautiful, she’s always hotter before the transformation than after. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/70 "2009-04-19T23:41:54Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Quoth **Stranger on a Train** :It’s an absolute truism that whenever Hollywood makes a movie where one of the two female leads is supposed to be “the ugly one”, and the other is supposed to be “hot”, the “ugly” one will always, without exception, be the hotter of the two. Likewise, if the plot of a Hollywood movie involves an “ugly” woman becoming beautiful, she’s always hotter before the transformation than after. Word. Uma Thurman hotter than Janeane Garofalo in **The Truth About Cats and Dogs**? I don’t fucking think so. I actually think Uma Thurman is too pretty to include in this thread, but Janeane’s way more attractive. Funnier, too. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/71 "2009-04-19T23:43:54Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > Have you seen _Moulin Rouge!_? Yeah. Still, nothing. If I squint, I can kind of see the appeal of Tom Cruise, but it’s hard to squint for an entire movie. On the female side - Eliza Dushku. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/72 "2009-04-19T23:47:18Z")
> [@Linty\_Fresh](#): > > I actually think Uma Thurman is too pretty to include in this thread. So..you’re posting this from Bizarro World, I take it? Because while Ms. Thurman has a fair enough body, the best I can say of her face is that one does not turn immediately to stone upon meeting her eyes. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/73 "2009-04-19T23:51:28Z")
> [@Linty\_Fresh](#): > > Word. Uma Thurman hotter than Janeane Garofalo in **The Truth About Cats and Dogs**? I don’t fucking think so. > > I actually think Uma Thurman is too pretty to include in this thread, but Janeane’s way more attractive. Funnier, too. I remember when that movie came out, and I mentioned to my friends that I thought JG was way more attractive than Uma (who dosent do too much for me)… No one would believe that I could see it that way. I havent seen Garofolo in a while, but I have always thought she has a certain something that really draws me in. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/74 "2009-04-19T23:52:42Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > So..you’re posting this from Bizarro World, I take it? Because while Ms. Thurman has a fair enough body, the best I can say of her face is that one does not turn immediately to stone upon meeting her eyes. Oh come on, she’s not that bad! She’s like an American Bjork. Her face isn’t conventionally beautiful, but it’s not bad looking, and she shows a quirky charm when she doesn’t try too hard. It works in **Mad Dog and Glory** , not so much in **Pulp Fiction** , but there’s no way I would include Uma in _this_ thread. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/75 "2009-04-19T23:54:49Z")
> [@Linty\_Fresh](#): > > Oh come on, she’s not that bad! She’s like an American Bjork. Her face isn’t conventionally beautiful, but it’s not bad looking, and she shows a quirky charm when she doesn’t try too hard. It works in **Mad Dog and Glory** , not so much in **Pulp Fiction** , but there’s no way I would include Uma in _this_ thread. I told you I am feeling cruel today. Between posts I have hacked into the Blackberries, iPhones, and so forth of every performer mentioned and forwarded all of the most vicious comments. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/76 "2009-04-19T23:54:53Z")
> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#): > > I havent seen Garofolo in a while, but I have always thought she has a certain something that really draws me in. Yeah, JG reminds me of the ultra-cool poly-sci major who doesn’t fit in because she doesn’t have to. She’s not cool because she’s beautiful, she’s beautiful because she’s cool. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/77 "2009-04-19T23:55:55Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > I told you I am feeling cruel today. Between posts I have hacked into the Blackberries, iPhones, and so forth of every performer mentioned and forwarded all of the most vicious comments. Fuck man, thanks a lot! I hope Sharon Stone doesn’t have me killed! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/78 "2009-04-19T23:56:46Z")
> [@Linty\_Fresh](#): > > On that note, did any woman actually _swoon_ over Arnold Schwarzenegger in the 80’s? He had a rippin’ bod, but kind of a buttisface, wasn’t he? Both my little sisters think he’s hot. My baby sister is also in love with Patrick Stewart, whom she insists cannot possibly be nearly 70, because she intends to sleep with him given the chance and refuses to sleep with a man that old. Rhymers are strange. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/79 "2009-04-20T00:17:02Z")
Sarah Jessica Parker was never considered a “hot chick”. When she was younger she was considered to be quirky cute, and when she became older she gained a reputation for being stylish, but she’s never had a reputation for being particularly beautiful. > [@Linty\_Fresh](#): > > Another one for me is [Gong Li](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gong_li_moscow_edited.jpg). Not ugly by any means, but I just don’t see the real attraction. I also thought that she and Colin Farrell had _zero_ sexual chemistry in **Miami Vice**. Gong Li isn’t considered especially attractive in her native China, or at least wasn’t until she began gaining international attention. She was previously kind of the Meryl Streep of China – very respected for her acting ability but not regarded as a super hottie. It was something of a surprise to the Chinese public when Gong Li started to become known in the West and they learned that Westerners considered her to be an exotic beauty. I first learned this from my Chinese film professor (that is, he was both Chinese and teaching a class on Chinese film), and have had it confirmed by several other Chinese acquaintances since then. ---
**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630/80 "2009-04-20T00:35:03Z")
> [@Stauderhorse](#): > > I didn’t see the big deal either, until someone linked to [this](http://www.undiesdrawer.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/05/zac_efron_underwear.jpg) picture in another thread. His face is nothing special, but yowza, that’s a nice body. I appreciate the work he puts into it, but that particular body type doesn’t really do it for me. I like guys who have some meat on their bones. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allegedly-hot-chicks-studs-whose-appeal-escapes-you/493630.md?page=5)