# Allright, Who hates CnoteChris **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 2, 2000, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721 "2000-09-02T00:57:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ultress](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7c8e57/32.png) [@ultress](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultress)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2000, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721/41 "2000-09-03T00:18:51Z")
aha you are definitely an alpha male. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2000, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721/42 "2000-09-03T00:40:03Z")
CnoteChris, how did you get over 500 posts, & I never heard of you until right this minute? šŸ˜• Are you sure youā€™re not from an alternate universe SDMB? Well, I donā€™t hate you; but given time & effortā€¦ maybe I could work something out for you. OK? šŸ˜ƒ :mad: How was that, for a starter? ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2000, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721/43 "2000-09-03T00:41:25Z")
Hiya **porcupine**. Welcome to the SDMB. **Spidey** ā€“Love your little spidey in your new sig! **CnoteChris** : You said ā€œWhat otherā€™s think of me does not weigh that heavily on my mind.ā€ Well, if that is so, why did you start a thread titled ā€œAllright, Who hates Cnote Chris?ā€ šŸ˜• ---
**Author:** ![porcupine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac91a4/32.png) [@porcupine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/porcupine)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2000, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721/44 "2000-09-03T00:57:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Green Bean \* > Hiya **porcupine**. Welcome to the SDMB. Thanks, **Green Bean**. Can I be part of the clique now? šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2000, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721/45 "2000-09-03T01:22:11Z")
I dunno, because AFAIK, Iā€™m not part of it. We can start our own, thoughā€“only vegetables and prickly animals allowed. ---
**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2000, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721/46 "2000-09-03T01:49:40Z")
Donā€™t hate me because of my hair! Ahhh, the joys of posting drunk. Were do I start? I dunno. Iā€™m about to put a hand on my eye to make sure the spelling here is correct. But considering it didnā€™t work before, I doubt it will now. Have fun with me. Abuse me, tell me Iā€™m an idiot. Considering I started this thread, I guess I deserve it. Saturday night and alone again. Did I mention I started drinking again? Hi Yā€™all. Get ready for another fun post from the c-man. ---
**Author:** ![Spider\_Woman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Spider\_Woman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spider_Woman)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2000, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721/47 "2000-09-03T02:09:56Z")
Iā€™m glad you like the little spider. It took me a while to get the legs lined up right. Do you suppose a spider is a prickly enough animal to join the clique with you and Green Bean? Whaddya say Green Bean? Hi CnoteChris! Itā€™s not good to drink alone; I hope you arenā€™t too sad. ---
**Author:** ![MysterEcks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@MysterEcks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysterEcks)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2000, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721/48 "2000-09-03T02:31:44Z")
**Scotticher** said: > [@](#): > > Well, honey my darlinā€™, Iā€™d like to meet you, or date you, but I donā€™t think Iā€™d be voting for you for governor until I had some factual evidence to indicate that you would be a good one. Governor, that is. > > About this date, darlinā€™-where and when? That would be really cool, Scotti. Maybe I could even convince you of my qualifications for Governor. Iā€™m not sure when yetā€“that needs some planning. As for whereā€¦I have the impression youā€™re from the Seattle area somewhere. Iā€™m from Central Pennsylvania, so if we met straight-line halfway it would be somewhere east of Bismark, North Dakota. **aha** said: > [@](#): > > CnoteChris I donā€™t hate you but donā€™t hate me for being handsome and popular ok? Yeah, **Cnote** , and donā€™t hate him for being so much older than you, either. ---
**Author:** ![Spider\_Woman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Spider\_Woman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spider_Woman)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2000, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721/49 "2000-09-03T02:35:41Z")
[Thanks about the sig. I at first thought porcupine said it. Now back to the regularly scheduled thread.] ---
**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2000, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721/50 "2000-09-03T03:05:47Z")
Iā€™m not sad spider. But Iā€™ve been sitting here thinking Aha wouldnā€™t have been that bad of a music teacher. Now _thatā€™s_ when you know youā€™ve drank too much. ---
**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2000, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721/51 "2000-09-03T03:22:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MysterEcks \* > \*\*Iā€™m from Central Pennsylvania, so if we met straight-line halfway it would be somewhere east of Bismark, North Dakota. \*\* Kind of a long trek for a date, huh?ā˜¹ ---
**Author:** ![dewt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9dc877/32.png) [@dewt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dewt)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2000, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721/52 "2000-09-03T03:39:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CnoteChris \* > \*\*Are you saying CnoteChris is a bad name? Condsidering itā€™s one that came out of knowwhere, I kinda like it. \*\* I, for one, think CnoteChris is a pretty cool name. Original, containing an actual name, and presumably indicative of some aspect of your personality. I say donā€™t take it personally. I too, think itā€™s great that all these online friendships have formed. Kinda neat. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2000, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721/53 "2000-09-03T04:14:06Z")
What can I add to this? I _know_ and associate frequently with people here for one or more of these reasons: 1. They frequently post to the same threads as I do in GQ. 2. They piss me off by being an asshole to me. 3. They make me smile by being sweet and nice to me. 4. They are frequently in chat, and talk to me. 5. They are lesbian (hey, itā€™s one of my life issues - I relate to those who are as well). AFAIK, you do not fall into any of the above categories. Can you? Sure (except number 5, I imagine). But to tell you the truth, I didnā€™t even know you were male until this thread, as we simply have not met under any of the 5 categories above. Or if we have, I must have forgotten. ALL boards and newsgroups have cliques, just like all clubs and organizations do. You canā€™t hold the SDMB to a higher standard, just because we as a population are much smarter than most. MENSA has a lot of smart people in it, and is extremely cliquish, and I had great difficulty fitting in (which is why I left). A lot of what **kelli** said above I agree with also. One last word - firewall. Iā€™m curious how you know that this personā€™s ISP account wasnā€™t just being spoofed, and why you wonā€™t post their name here. And what ā€œtracking softwareā€ did you use to determine this? ---
**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2000, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721/54 "2000-09-03T05:57:26Z")
Where should I begin. Hmmm. A screwed up post that somewhat relayed my point but was lost in the shuffle? Wouldnā€™t be the first time for me. A joke here, a joke there, and accusation that threw everyone off guard, and Iā€™m not sure what this thread is about anymore. Well, I kinda, sorta, maybe, do. All it had to do was being a piss-off against threads that exclude otherā€™s that use this board. I can see how cliques start and spread. I myself was apart of a major clique in school. Iā€™m not now, but I can see the irony behind it. Why exclude others by posting threads that encourage this behavior when your more than likely the group that was ignored before? Some people have come up with good points for and against this trend. I find it highly suspect and get pissed when I see these kinds of threads. Hate me? Love me? Doesnā€™t matter. It really doesnā€™t. If it did, Iā€™d doubt Iā€™d make a post pointing out this fact. Why it happens, I have no clue. Iā€™m simply making an observation. ā€“To those of you interested in the Hacker dude, I didnā€™t and wonā€™t reveal his address because Iā€™m not sure of the legalities behind it. It happened, I responded, and was treated fairly. I donā€™t think I should stoke this fire. I will add, that since Iā€™ve made this post, three different people have tried accessing my computer. I remained quiet after the first one that threw the subject off, but mention it here, only because itā€™s still happening and Iā€™ll choose to address it privately. Why this post would initiate this kind of hack, I have no idea. ---
**Author:** ![Spider\_Woman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Spider\_Woman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spider_Woman)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2000, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721/55 "2000-09-03T11:10:52Z")
People who live near each other may come to dope fests and meet each other that way also. Thatā€™s weird about the computer thing though. I didnā€™t know it was possible through the board (although I read a book called Positive Match, by Tony Chiu, that described some amazing feats of hacking, so I suppose someone with skills like that could do almost anything). What would be the purpose, any guesses? Iā€™ve only read a few of your other posts, but I donā€™t remember ever reading anything that might have been interpreted as offensive. Do you think the same person who was banned simply re-registered under different addresses and tried again? Anyway, back to the OP, I think as you post more, more people will get to know you. Have you ever gone to the chat they mention? Maybe that will help. See ya around the board. ---
**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2000, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721/56 "2000-09-03T14:35:02Z")
Spider- Beats me. Itā€™s more than likely the same person. As people who have seen and known this board have noticed, itā€™s not too hard to come back again as a pupppet. Why are they doing it? Donā€™t know. Is it because of this thread? Could be, but Iā€™m not blaming anyone. Itā€™s odd Itā€™d start after I blow my stack and essentially ask people to do it. My bravado at the time aside, it wasnā€™t all that hard to figure out the persons address. I have a firewall and some tracking software installed. A few terse e-mails and a phone call got the matter resolved. I think. How are they doing it? Another mystery to me. I just know whatā€™s being logged and responding to it. To my surprise, Iā€™ve been treated terrific by my ISP and theirs. Had it been a true and serious attempt, I doubt I ever would have known. But getting into my MS files, hope your having fun with three different versions of my resume. Wanna hire me? If anything has come out of this thread, Iā€™d hope it be some more consideration towards starting those kind of threads. Will this thread stop it? Not a chance. But I think a couple people have read it and thought, ā€˜Huh. Heā€™s got a point there.ā€™ Was I being arrogant and snotty? You bet. Have I mentioned I was drinking? Hmm. I think I did. Am I sad and upset. No. Half of my post was made in jest and half was made seriously. Have I been offended by what others have posted? Again, nope. It takes alot to get me offended and angry. Iā€™ve actually had a fun time reading some of the replies. Iā€™m not sure if I should be happy or upset that a thread that says ā€˜Who hates Cnoteā€™ has recieved this many responses. I think I need to title my threads better. Again, Iā€™m smiling as I read these posts, there are some funny people out there. Now. Back to the bashing. ---
**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2000, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721/57 "2000-09-03T14:43:49Z")
By the way. Aha. Iā€™ve become a fan. I donā€™t know when or how it happened, but I like ya. _Hey there big boy_ [/Feeble attempt at humor machine turned off] No, donā€™t panic. But where the Hell were you when I had to sit through those stupid music classes in school? ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2000, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721/58 "2000-09-03T15:03:33Z")
Iā€™m guessing all you had is a software or hardware firewall, and looked at the log to find an IP, then used Sam Spade or whois or whatever to trace it to an ISP. **If** this is all you did, then you were right not to post their name. I was hacking TCP/IP during the Bush Administration, and although out of practice I could easily fool things like these. ---
**Author:** ![beakerxf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc79bd/32.png) [@beakerxf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beakerxf)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2000, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721/59 "2000-09-03T15:58:46Z")
Iā€™m curious, how do you know someone is hacking into your computer? Do you see the signs of it, or do you need special security software to notify you? ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2000, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721/60 "2000-09-03T16:37:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by beakerxf \* > \*\*Iā€™m curious, how do you know someone is hacking into your computer? Do you see the signs of it, or do you need special security software to notify you? \*\* Try here: [Site of ZoneAlarm](http://www.zonelabs.com/) This is actually a pretty good, full-featured, non-crippleware, non-nagware free software firewall (free for personal use). Itā€™s very easy to use, and IMO is pretty secure. I have _great_ difficulty circumventing a system using it, and when I do I canā€™t do anything harmful or malicious. It is very well reviewed and acclaimed, and until I got a hardware firewall I swore by it. This software will log events of suspicious or blatantly hacking activity, and put them in a pop-up window, and/or logs them to a file, with date, time, IP, port, UDP or TCP, etc. Then, you can ask it for help on ā€œwhat was going on when this person was trying to access my PCā€ in itā€™s help. It was a real eye-opener just how many times my DSL connection was being probed through the day - about 5-20 events per day. It was also amazing how many of them originated in Korea too (unless they were being spoofed). Just make sure you read the instructions carefully, otherwise itā€™s an incredibly easy tool to use. For detailed info on what was going on (as you look through the activity logs), try here: [Firewall Forensics FAQ](http://www.robertgraham.com/pubs/firewall-seen.html) Enjoy! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/allright-who-hates-cnotechris/31721.md?page=4)