# Almish **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2000, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/almish/5537 "2000-03-26T01:16:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/almish/5537/41 "2000-03-29T04:18:00Z")
**Jeannie** , you have it just a bit reversed. The Mennonites were organized by Simonsz Menno (1496 - 1561). The Amish (or Old Order Amish) under the direction of Jakob Ammann in the late seventeenth century, broke with the Mennonites because they felt the Mennonites were not strict enough. Because they do share a lot of theology, they have tended to settle near each other, but the stricter, more conservative group is actually of more recent (comparatively) origin: the Amish. * * * Tom~ ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/almish/5537/42 "2000-03-29T05:17:00Z")
I’m going to be picky, but you really can’t say that the Amish speak Dutch. Suppose that you’re in France and that you see an building which has people coming out of it. You don’t speak French but you indicate by signs to a Frenchman that you want to know what that building is. The Frenchman says, “Une librairie.” You say, “O.K., I knew that it was a library.” But it’s not. “Librairie” is the French word for “bookshop”. It’s the same way with “Pennsylvania Dutch.” Someone asked them what language they spoke and they said “Deutsch.” “Deutsch” is the German word for German. Dutch and German are distinguishable languages, and the Amish speak German. ---
**Author:** ![Nu\_Vo\_Da\_Da](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/97f17d/32.png) [@Nu\_Vo\_Da\_Da](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nu_Vo_Da_Da)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/almish/5537/43 "2000-03-29T16:49:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Jeannie, you have it just a bit reversed. The Mennonites were organized by Simonsz Menno (1496 - 1561). Actually that should be Menno Simons(Simons is the generally accepted last name(though in his lifetime Menno spelled it about a hundred different ways,)(pick pick pick) Other than that though, you were right. Though the Amish weren’t so much break aways from the Mennonite church as they were a separate sect in the rather disorganised Anabaptist movement. ---
**Author:** ![NicePete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ee7513/32.png) [@NicePete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NicePete)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2000, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/almish/5537/44 "2000-03-30T06:16:00Z")
Say, why don’t we see if there are any Amish among the Teeming Millions who could post a first hand response… Hey, wait, that wouldn’t work, would it. Never mind. * * * Been here so long he’s got to calling it Home. ---
**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2000, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/almish/5537/45 "2000-03-30T02:46:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by danielnsmith: > **Here in Iowa, our amish have refused to put the red/orange triangles on their buggies because the triangles are a symbol of satan. The state has had to change the law to allow them to put something else (yet equally reflective) on their buggies.** That happened here in Minnesota as well. The reason they gave for not wanting the triangles wasn’t because of the shape, though. It was because they didn’t approve of the bright colors. Now they’re allowed to use a triangle, but instead of red/blaze orange, it’s white with a black border. ---
**Author:** ![SouthernXYL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@SouthernXYL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SouthernXYL)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2000, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/almish/5537/46 "2000-03-30T03:58:00Z")
Scylla, you need to go out and buy Weird Al Yankovic’s CD “bad hair day”. The first song on it is “Amish Paradise” - it’s a parody of Gangsta’s Paradise. It’ll make you feel better. ---
**Author:** ![CalifBoomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@CalifBoomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalifBoomer)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2000, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/almish/5537/47 "2000-03-30T04:16:00Z")
Scylla: Get a freaking life and mind your own business. :: ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2000, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/almish/5537/48 "2000-03-30T04:26:00Z")
Califboomer: Being shot at by people with guns who are tresspassing on my own property isn’t my own business? I may have proved myself to be biased and ignorant on the subject of my local Amish, Brethren or whatever they are, but you are just a fucking moron. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2000, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/almish/5537/49 "2000-03-30T15:52:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by **CalifBoomer** : > > Get a freaking life and mind your own business. Ah, the wit and wisdom of a troll… Esprix * * * [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) ---
**Author:** ![Nu\_Vo\_Da\_Da](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/97f17d/32.png) [@Nu\_Vo\_Da\_Da](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nu_Vo_Da_Da)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2000, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/almish/5537/50 "2000-03-30T16:40:00Z")
Why is Califboomer still around? He should have been kicked off ages ago… ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2000, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/almish/5537/51 "2000-03-31T06:08:00Z")
Does that fact that he disagrees with me prove that I might have a point? I mean, he is ALWAYS wrong. Shucks, I don’t Hate the Amish, anymore. I don’t even know who they are, much less if my neighbors even are Amish. ---
**Author:** ![Nu\_Vo\_Da\_Da](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/97f17d/32.png) [@Nu\_Vo\_Da\_Da](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nu_Vo_Da_Da)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2000, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/almish/5537/52 "2000-03-30T20:20:00Z")
It just might. Although you probably want to be careful with that argument, after all, even a broken clock is right twice a day. ---
**Author:** ![CalifBoomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@CalifBoomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalifBoomer)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2000, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/almish/5537/53 "2000-03-31T04:04:00Z")
> [@](#): > > They ride their bikes They sound like good environmentalists who don’t want to hurt mother earth. > [@](#): > > and they don’t understand property rights. They sound like good liberals who think all property belongs to the government. > [@](#): > > they speak Dutch among themselves (obviously laughing at you,) 1. You don’t like diversity? 2. and you’re paranoid? > [@](#): > > They should be disbanded What about tolerance? :: ---
**Author:** ![CalifBoomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@CalifBoomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalifBoomer)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2000, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/almish/5537/54 "2000-03-31T04:23:00Z")
Oh, and by the way– > [@](#): > > but as a whole I hate the Almish Hate is **not** a family value. ---
**Author:** ![Nu\_Vo\_Da\_Da](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/97f17d/32.png) [@Nu\_Vo\_Da\_Da](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nu_Vo_Da_Da)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2000, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/almish/5537/55 "2000-03-31T04:45:00Z")
CalifBoomer: No one **cares** what you think. Kindly stop messing up our tidy little message board. And who said hate wasn’t a family value anyway? To look at all those “family values” people I just naturally assumed it was the main one. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2000, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/almish/5537/56 "2000-03-31T15:08:00Z")
Califboomer: “They sound like good liberals who think all property belongs to the government.” Liberals don’t think this. Socialists, dictators, and feudalists do. Get your facts straight. “and you’re paranoid” Yeah, I guess your right. That whole thing about their shooting at me was probably just their way of extending a friendly greeting. How foolish of me to misinterpret this. “What about tolerance?” Let them sneak into your house with firearms and start shooting up the place. Tell me how tolerant I should be again, why don’t you? “Hate is not a family value.” Sure it is. The entire history of the human race shows us dividing into exclusive groups based on common heritage (read family) and hating anybody outside that group. I trust I don’t need to show examples. ---
**Author:** ![Jeannie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@Jeannie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeannie)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2000, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/almish/5537/57 "2000-04-01T00:07:00Z")
tomndebb-- That’s what I get for posting stuff without looking it up. I stand corrected. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2000, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/almish/5537/58 "2000-04-01T00:20:00Z")
I dunno. You just reversed the names. No biggie. As **Nu Vo Da Da** noted, there were glitches with my info, too. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2000, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/almish/5537/59 "2000-04-01T01:01:00Z")
Don’t worry. I have no idea what I’m talking about. Any other errors are sure to appear microscopic compared to the ignorance I’ve demonstrated. ---
**Author:** ![Nu\_Vo\_Da\_Da](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/97f17d/32.png) [@Nu\_Vo\_Da\_Da](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nu_Vo_Da_Da)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2000, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/almish/5537/60 "2000-04-01T07:54:00Z")
My goodness, quite the flagellation party we’ve got going here… But I’m a non-conformist, so I’d just like to point out that I have never posted anything less than completely factual and true. Well, except for maybe that last statement. * * * Profanity is the crutch of the inarticulate mother-fucker. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/almish/5537.md?page=2)