# Alot of people don't like George W. Bush because he took country to illegal war you angry about it?

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**Created:** [June 6, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alot-of-people-dont-like-george-w-bush-because-he-took-country-to-illegal-war-you-angry-about-it/756678 "2016-06-06T21:52:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alot-of-people-dont-like-george-w-bush-because-he-took-country-to-illegal-war-you-angry-about-it/756678/61 "2016-07-06T23:27:25Z")

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Yes, I agree that we should get back to a discussion of the serious issues raised in the OP. And in that spirit let me contribute, with punctuation.

I do not like Bush or Blair. I do not like them here or there. I do not like them anywhere. When I think of Bush or Blair, I get all frizzy in my hair.

And then [my brain hurts](https://athenae25.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/my-brain-hurts.jpg). That’s how angry I am, OK, OP?

I hope that answers all your questions, and you can consider another ten-year hiatus from any more of them.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alot-of-people-dont-like-george-w-bush-because-he-took-country-to-illegal-war-you-angry-about-it/756678/62 "2016-07-07T00:52:46Z")

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I agree with the OP. Fucking John Hancock dragging us into that treasonous war against our beloved monarch George III.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alot-of-people-dont-like-george-w-bush-because-he-took-country-to-illegal-war-you-angry-about-it/756678/63 "2016-07-07T13:37:38Z")

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> [@Dunmurry](#):
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> Are you making any sense

Says the guy that can’t write a complete sentence?

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alot-of-people-dont-like-george-w-bush-because-he-took-country-to-illegal-war-you-angry-about-it/756678/64 "2016-07-08T16:24:52Z")

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God damn butt-plug Jesus Christ liberals. Fucking get over your erections/lady erections of The Shrub. It’s time to hate some one new. I hear the Greatest Man Alive Donald “I’m the Coolest Guy Ever” Trump is trending lately. Try his ass on as your new hat. Give it a few weeks and see how much you’ll love it.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alot-of-people-dont-like-george-w-bush-because-he-took-country-to-illegal-war-you-angry-about-it/756678/65 "2016-07-08T16:33:43Z")

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go home Smurf you are Drunk

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alot-of-people-dont-like-george-w-bush-because-he-took-country-to-illegal-war-you-angry-about-it/756678/66 "2016-07-08T16:39:21Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> God damn butt-plug Jesus Christ liberals. Fucking get over your erections/lady erections of The Shrub. It’s time to hate some one new. I hear the Greatest Man Alive Donald “I’m the Coolest Guy Ever” Trump is trending lately. Try his ass on as your new hat. Give it a few weeks and see how much you’ll love it.

What’s wrong with butt-plug Jesus? I hear he’s a lot of fun at parties.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alot-of-people-dont-like-george-w-bush-because-he-took-country-to-illegal-war-you-angry-about-it/756678/67 "2016-07-08T17:09:37Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> What’s wrong with butt-plug Jesus? I hear he’s a lot of fun at parties.

Holy shit!

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alot-of-people-dont-like-george-w-bush-because-he-took-country-to-illegal-war-you-angry-about-it/756678/68 "2016-07-08T18:59:45Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> You think that we should have remained in occupation of Iraq for 60 years? Might as well make it a fucking state.

We still have troops in Germany, Japan and South Korea … but idiots like you think ISIS is good for your stock portfolio.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alot-of-people-dont-like-george-w-bush-because-he-took-country-to-illegal-war-you-angry-about-it/756678/69 "2016-07-10T11:17:22Z")

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Wait, the OP left for 10 years?! Let’s calculate what star system he’s on. I got a napkin, pen, 186,000 miles/sec (299 792 458 m / s); seconds in a minute - 60, minutes in an hour - 60, hours in a day - 24, days in a year - 365-1/4, 10 years. da da da da da da . Gotta divide by two (round trip don’tchaknow). Shit - probably somewhere around Proxima Centauri or Alpha Centauri.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alot-of-people-dont-like-george-w-bush-because-he-took-country-to-illegal-war-you-angry-about-it/756678/70 "2016-07-11T00:53:14Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> We still have troops in Germany, Japan and South Korea … but idiots like you think ISIS is good for your stock portfolio.

Did you really just accuse a fellow poster of being \*pro-ISIS? \*That’'s low…

And not because they espoused jihad or anything rational. No, apparently because they disagreed with you.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alot-of-people-dont-like-george-w-bush-because-he-took-country-to-illegal-war-you-angry-about-it/756678/71 "2016-07-11T00:57:26Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Wait, the OP left for 10 years?! Let’s calculate what star system he’s on. I got a napkin, pen, 186,000 miles/sec (299 792 458 m / s); seconds in a minute - 60, minutes in an hour - 60, hours in a day - 24, days in a year - 365-1/4, 10 years. da da da da da da . Gotta divide by two (round trip don’tchaknow). Shit - probably somewhere around Proxima Centauri or Alpha Centauri.

So much for, “Other intelligent life in the Universe”, theory.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alot-of-people-dont-like-george-w-bush-because-he-took-country-to-illegal-war-you-angry-about-it/756678/72 "2016-07-11T01:57:33Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> God damn butt-plug Jesus Christ liberals. Fucking get over your erections/lady erections of The Shrub. It’s time to hate some one new. I hear the Greatest Man Alive Donald “I’m the Coolest Guy Ever” Trump is trending lately. Try his ass on as your new hat. Give it a few weeks and see how much you’ll love it.

Not until Shrub, Cheney and Rumsfeld are put on trial for war crimes. 😃

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alot-of-people-dont-like-george-w-bush-because-he-took-country-to-illegal-war-you-angry-about-it/756678/73 "2016-07-11T07:06:31Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> God damn butt-plug Jesus Christ liberals. Fucking get over your erections/lady erections of The Shrub. It’s time to hate some one new. I hear the Greatest Man Alive Donald “I’m the Coolest Guy Ever” Trump is trending lately. Try his ass on as your new hat. Give it a few weeks and see how much you’ll love it.

Seventy years later they’re still talking about the guy with the mustache who gassed six million, but we’re supposed to forget Dick Cheney, et al? Why? Because they caused only a million deaths or so?

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alot-of-people-dont-like-george-w-bush-because-he-took-country-to-illegal-war-you-angry-about-it/756678/74 "2016-07-11T10:02:04Z")

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> [@Dunmurry](#):
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> All very interesting information here. There is also a lot of anger that it was all based on a lie yes it was basically a lie and so on actually. And what did you think of it? Any more thoughts about it?

You have an impressive way with words.

And I, for one, am mad as hell about the War of 1812. For one thing, couldn’t they come up with a better name for it?

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alot-of-people-dont-like-george-w-bush-because-he-took-country-to-illegal-war-you-angry-about-it/756678/75 "2016-07-11T11:21:15Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> And I, for one, am mad as hell about the War of 1812. For one thing, couldn’t they come up with a better name for it?

Well, there had been problems with naming wars. They named one The Thirty Years War, and then it went on for 30 years. The Hundred Years War lasted 100. So they were kind of skittish and settled on The War of 1812 as a placeholder name, but then forgot to go back and change it.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alot-of-people-dont-like-george-w-bush-because-he-took-country-to-illegal-war-you-angry-about-it/756678/76 "2016-07-11T12:11:21Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> The Hundred Years War lasted 100.

[nitpick] 116 years, akcherly. [/nitpick]

I know, I know…but this “fighting ignorance” thing is hard to give up…

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alot-of-people-dont-like-george-w-bush-because-he-took-country-to-illegal-war-you-angry-about-it/756678/77 "2016-07-11T12:47:55Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> God damn butt-plug Jesus Christ liberals. Fucking get over your erections/lady erections of The Shrub. It’s time to hate some one new. I hear the Greatest Man Alive Donald “I’m the Coolest Guy Ever” Trump is trending lately. Try his ass on as your new hat. Give it a few weeks and see how much you’ll love it.

I probably shouldn’t be encouraging this sort of thing, but by Gad sir, you’re entertaining when you’re spluttering like that.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alot-of-people-dont-like-george-w-bush-because-he-took-country-to-illegal-war-you-angry-about-it/756678/78 "2016-07-11T12:57:51Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> And I, for one, am mad as hell about the War of 1812. For one thing, couldn’t they come up with a better name for it?

Well, a bunch of Dopers were at a tavern agonizing over just the perfect wording (_"The Hundred Months’ War?_ That’ll be embarrassing if we get it done sooner… _The Zebrzydowski Rebellion?_ No, that one’s taken. _The War of the Big Boats?_), when [**kayaker**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=797342) just said “Fuck all. War of 1812.”

When challenged on it he grumbled “Hey, why doncha stop thinking and start fighting?”

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alot-of-people-dont-like-george-w-bush-because-he-took-country-to-illegal-war-you-angry-about-it/756678/79 "2016-07-12T01:36:28Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> [nitpick] 116 years, akcherly. [/nitpick]
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> I know, I know…but this “fighting ignorance” thing is hard to give up…

[nitpick] Well, it was more of an on-and-off thing during those 116 years, they took breaks so the peasants could breed up a new batch of soldiers every so often. [/nitpick]

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alot-of-people-dont-like-george-w-bush-because-he-took-country-to-illegal-war-you-angry-about-it/756678/80 "2016-07-12T03:17:54Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> [nitpick] Well, it was more of an on-and-off thing during those 116 years, they took breaks so the peasants could breed up a new batch of soldiers every so often. [/nitpick]

Yes, in fact there was a full 42-year delay between the English defeat at Chizai and [del]Sir Laurence Olivier’s[/del] King Henry V’s invasion of Normandy in 1415. If those were parts of the same War surely WWI and WWII should also be considered a single war.

The most romantic phase of the Hundred Years War was the final phase. Merlin allegedly prophesied that France would be ruined by a woman and then saved by a virgin. The identity of the ruinous woman was in no doubt: Isabella of Bavaria ruled France as her husband’s insanity progressed, disowned her son the Dauphin, married two of her daughters to Kings of England, and allied with her son’s enemy, the Duke of Burgundy (who had also married a Bavarian Princess).

The story of the Virgin who then saved France is well known — at least five dozen films and operas tell the story of Joan of Arc.

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