# Alright, everyone just use a condom and shut the fuck up **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 18, 2002, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-everyone-just-use-a-condom-and-shut-the-fuck-up/119539 "2002-07-18T04:05:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tramp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4491bb/32.png) [@tramp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tramp)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-everyone-just-use-a-condom-and-shut-the-fuck-up/119539/1 "2002-07-18T04:05:16Z")
I read the BBQ Pit to hear some good old fashioned ranting and flaming and raving. Now it has turned into a big fucking whining fest over safe sex. So someone told you to use a condom. Big fucking deal. There are plenty of worse things people could say to you. People have told me to use condoms. I never said “Oh, why are you worrying about me? You should worrying about the gays!” That’s silly. Safe sex is important for everyone. If you’re gay, use a fucking condom. If you’re straight, use a fucking condom. Now everyone just shut the fuck up about this and go back to some quality flaming. ---
**Author:** ![Sylkyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@Sylkyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylkyn)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-everyone-just-use-a-condom-and-shut-the-fuck-up/119539/2 "2002-07-18T04:14:26Z")
It’s called common sense. If you’re alive, in this day and age, you need to use “common sense”. And if you don’t _have_ common sense, then listen to us lecturers. We care about you. ALL of you. Really. ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-everyone-just-use-a-condom-and-shut-the-fuck-up/119539/3 "2002-07-18T04:25:29Z")
But don’t assume promiscuity means a lack of common sense. ---
**Author:** ![Sylkyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@Sylkyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylkyn)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-everyone-just-use-a-condom-and-shut-the-fuck-up/119539/4 "2002-07-18T04:30:19Z")
Nobody suggested that, **Hastur**. Those of us in glass houses are wont to throw stones. ---
**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-everyone-just-use-a-condom-and-shut-the-fuck-up/119539/5 "2002-07-18T04:31:15Z")
WTF is this all about? ---
**Author:** ![porcupine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac91a4/32.png) [@porcupine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/porcupine)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-everyone-just-use-a-condom-and-shut-the-fuck-up/119539/6 "2002-07-18T04:45:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by techchick68 \* > \*\*WTF is this all about? \*\* [This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=125930). ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-everyone-just-use-a-condom-and-shut-the-fuck-up/119539/7 "2002-07-18T06:22:08Z")
> [@](#): > > But don’t assume promiscuity means a lack of common sense. Neither do I assume that drug addiction means a lack of common sense. But I do assume it means a lack of good judgement. ---
**Author:** ![NightRabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbce88/32.png) [@NightRabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NightRabbit)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-everyone-just-use-a-condom-and-shut-the-fuck-up/119539/8 "2002-07-18T06:33:12Z")
This reminds me of the thread where some poor soul admitted to taking his child out of the carseat while his wife was driving, and became annoyed at all of us fellow drivers jumping in to tell him how unsafe that is. It seems to me that if you admit to purposefully acting foolishly here, you’re in for a bit of an unprejudiced reminder from the board. IMHO, if you can’t take hearing that your actions are, as **Blalron** put it, lacking in good judgement, you shouldn’t be so cavalier about posting it here- go somewhere else. The SDMB is not the place for it. ---
**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-everyone-just-use-a-condom-and-shut-the-fuck-up/119539/9 "2002-07-18T06:48:27Z")
…but I’m not having sex. What am I supposed to use the condom for? WATER BALLOONS! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-everyone-just-use-a-condom-and-shut-the-fuck-up/119539/10 "2002-07-18T07:26:14Z")
I have absolutely no reason to use a condom, perhaps **you** should shut the fuck up, **tramp**. ---
**Author:** ![happyheathen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5e925/32.png) [@happyheathen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/happyheathen)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-everyone-just-use-a-condom-and-shut-the-fuck-up/119539/11 "2002-07-18T07:54:09Z")
Last time I heard, latex condoms were rated as 90% effective as contraceptives. Given the relative probabilities of disease transmission vs. conception (do you need an explanation of all that must be in place and functioning for conception, vs, what is required for disease transmission?), it sounds like a condom is well less than ‘fail safe’. just a thought… ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-everyone-just-use-a-condom-and-shut-the-fuck-up/119539/12 "2002-07-18T07:56:58Z")
> [@](#): > > Now everyone just shut the fuck up about this and go back to some quality flaming. Been doing that since day one, hon. 😉 Blalrog: Thank you for clearing that up for us. I was waiting in suspense for your opinion to be given unto us. Om sala om. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-everyone-just-use-a-condom-and-shut-the-fuck-up/119539/13 "2002-07-18T09:49:26Z")
> [@](#): > > Given the relative probabilities of disease transmission vs. conception (do you need an explanation of all that must be in place and functioning for conception, vs, what is required for disease transmission?), it sounds like a condom is well less than ‘fail safe’. 90% is better than 0%, Chucklehead. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-everyone-just-use-a-condom-and-shut-the-fuck-up/119539/14 "2002-07-18T10:26:11Z")
Well, nothing’s failsafe. However those figures are for a year of use, not “per use”, something which is always misleading. It should also be noted that the studies have to contend with misuse: they frequently find that the breakage rates are skewed, with certain men reporting a much higher breakage rate than others. This is likely caused by misuse of the condom (attempting to put it on inside out, for example). A further problem is that often couples who claim to use a condom consistently in fact do not, and simply do not admit to this. The moral is obvious; the failure rate is considerably lower if you use the condom properly. It’s not difficult. ---
**Author:** ![Already\_in\_Use](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@Already\_in\_Use](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Already_in_Use)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-everyone-just-use-a-condom-and-shut-the-fuck-up/119539/15 "2002-07-18T11:00:02Z")
Sorry, but “use a condom” and “shut the fuck up” are obviously redundant. How am I supposed to talk with this condom on my head? ---
**Author:** ![Alereon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Alereon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alereon)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-everyone-just-use-a-condom-and-shut-the-fuck-up/119539/16 "2002-07-18T11:48:36Z")
Hmm. Just out of curiosity, does anyone have any statistics/info about how effective condoms are if they DON’T BREAK? Am I correct in assuming that the 90% figure takes into account occasional breakage, and if the condom remains intact and on Mr. Happy it should be about 100% effective? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-everyone-just-use-a-condom-and-shut-the-fuck-up/119539/17 "2002-07-18T12:53:16Z")
I don’t know anyone called Mr Happy; there’s a Mrs Love who lives down the road though; maybe she would do - should I put the condom on her? ---
**Author:** ![tramp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4491bb/32.png) [@tramp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tramp)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-everyone-just-use-a-condom-and-shut-the-fuck-up/119539/18 "2002-07-18T13:07:35Z")
Look, I’m just saying that those who are having sex should consider using a condom. Be that gay sex, pig sex or whatever. If you come in here shouting “I HAD DIRTY BUTT SEX WITH 8 GUYS LAST NIGHT AND IT WAS SO GOOD THAT I CAN’T EVEN SIT DOWN TODAY” don’t get your panties in a bunch because someone suggests that maybe a condom is a good idea. Mangetout, you could try the female condom if you feel like having sex with a Glad Freezer Bag. Oh yeah, and you shut the fuck up too. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-everyone-just-use-a-condom-and-shut-the-fuck-up/119539/19 "2002-07-18T13:32:03Z")
You’re still missing the point a little **tramp** ; your post was addressed to **everyone** who is having sex; tell me exactly why _ **everyone** _ who is having sex is subject to some sort of risk that would be lessened by the use of condoms. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-everyone-just-use-a-condom-and-shut-the-fuck-up/119539/20 "2002-07-18T13:34:00Z")
Oh and condoms can have very undesirable side-effects in certain circumstances… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/alright-everyone-just-use-a-condom-and-shut-the-fuck-up/119539.md?page=2)