# Aly Raisman. After seeing her pose in SI, I’d like a taste of that! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 21, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293 "2018-02-21T20:36:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293/41 "2018-02-21T22:46:26Z")
> [@somepumpkin](#): > > you haven’t convinced me that there’s no harm in what she’s done. …how the fuck has she done any harm? It isn’t our job to show you that she hasn’t done any harm. Its your job to show us that she has caused harm. Who has she hurt? She took part in a photoshoot. How the hell does that hurt anybody? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293/42 "2018-02-21T22:48:28Z")
> [@somepumpkin](#): > > I really lit-off a shitstorm. I hope I can keep-up. Don’t give yourself credit you don’t deserve. You did not light off a shitstorm. There’s no debate here because everyone else can see you are missing the point. You need to get past the outdated Madonna/Whore view of women. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293/43 "2018-02-21T22:49:46Z")
> [@somepumpkin](#): > > I don’t, necessarily, agree, but thank you for this post. This is the kind of feedback one can use, with insight, to see the error within my opinion. > \*\* > This one, too. Thank you. I’m not trying to shame her, I’m questioning how alone i am in seeing it this way. I hope I find food and water on this island.\*\* Because you’re engaging in benevolent sexism. You may see yourself as being protective of women and our sexuality, but what you’re really doing is patronizing by assuming we can’t make our own good decisions. You don’t see her decision as a good one. She does and doesn’t need your protection. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293/44 "2018-02-21T22:50:00Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > I found them. They are tasteful and don’t reveal anything, but I’ll spoiler them, anyway. > > [Aly Raisman poses nude for Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue](https://www.aol.com/article/entertainment/2018/02/13/aly-raisman-poses-nude-for-sports-illustrated-swimsuit-issue/23360468/) So this is just advertising for the new Olympic Gymnast Post-It Notes? ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293/45 "2018-02-21T22:51:58Z")
So what was the harm? That men might think that women are sexual? We already knew that. And it’s OK for men to think that women can be sexual. What’s not OK is thinking that because a woman is a sexual person that it’s therefore OK to rape her, or abuse her, or humiliate her, or attack her, or molest her, or harass her, or insult her. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293/46 "2018-02-21T22:53:40Z")
If a woman cheapens herself, does that mean she’s worth less? If so, to whom? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293/47 "2018-02-21T22:55:38Z")
> [@somepumpkin](#): > > Thanks for that perspective, **iiandyiiii**. I agree that it’s not right to shame, and in review, I can see that’s how I presented myself. I would like to retract that from the record, though it’s oh so too late for that. > > I’ll humbly agree I could have handled/expressed myself better. Though you guys’ve easily convinced me that i was a bit of an ass, you haven’t convinced me that there’s no harm in what she’s done. Okay, but what harm has she caused? Isn’t society better off if women can feel comfortable wearing anything, with the knowledge that society demands that men treat women with respect, all the time, no matter what they wear? If that’s the goal, then these kinds of choices (when women make them publicly and without fear) can only help, even if only by a tiny bit. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293/48 "2018-02-21T23:02:35Z")
> [@somepumpkin](#): > > At times I was being sarcastic, to (attempt to) make a point. Good start, but to complete your Hypocrite Bingo card, you need to fill out “I was trying to start a dialogue” and “I’m sorry you misunderstood my intent”. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293/49 "2018-02-21T23:04:01Z")
> [@somepumpkin](#): > > I’ll humbly agree I could have handled/expressed myself better. Though you guys’ve easily convinced me that i was a bit of an ass, you haven’t convinced me that there’s no harm in what she’s done. I mean, it’s your thread, man. Make an argument. So far all you’ve done is assert without evidence. Your opinion is rooted in the idea that the main thing a woman - any woman - has to offer is her appearance. Thus, if she “gives that away” by posing nude, she has devalued herself because why would anyone care about Aly Raisman if you’ve already seen her ass? This is a _you_ problem, not a _her_ problem, because most men can cheerfully acknowledge that she looks great in those photos, and that _in addition to that_ she is a complex person whose sexuality is only a tiny tiny tiny part of her identity. You are attempting to reduce her entirely to her sexuality and then argue that by exposing it, she’s obliterating her own value. Look: do you actually believe that there is some asshole doctor out there who would _not_ have sexually assaulted his teenage patients, except he saw a photo of 23 year old Aly Raisman kinda nude and so he just had to? I’m sure you do not believe this, but the mechanism by which you’re imagining harm is not clear. If your argument is that men who have already bought into the idea that a woman who is sexual cannot be valuable in other ways will now view Aly Raisman as cheapened, you’re probably right (you’re definitely right, since you are _one of them_). But the thing you’re not understanding is that the problem is with those men, not with Raisman, and they/you, not she, need to adjust your perspective. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293/50 "2018-02-21T23:27:27Z")
> [@somepumpkin](#): > > Also, the men are showing off their bodies so people will think they’re hot, not make some wholesome statement about the sanctity of manhood. I’m honestly struggle to parse this: are you saying that women in photographs have a responsibility to make a statement about the sanctity of womanhood? > [@](#): > > But the men who buy the mag are building the fantasy and taking her sexiness to THEIR definitions. It’s out of Aly’s hands. It’s her responsibility not to inflame male lust? Are we still doing that? ---
**Author:** ![Crazy\_Canuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazy_canuck/32/5282_2.png) [@Crazy\_Canuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazy_Canuck)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293/51 "2018-02-21T23:59:14Z")
Shit, I’m way too late to this party, pointing out what a shit person you are for your madonna/whore bullshit, or for your benevolent sexism feels a little pile-on-ish. So I’m calling you out for pervert shaming. > [@somepumpkin](#): > > It’s these stupid fantasies that help reinforce a pervert’s desire to do the perverted shit they do. There is nothing stupid about my fantasies or the perverted shit I do. I’m a proud pervert, and if you don’t like that, you are more than welcome to keep shoving my dildos up your ass until they come out your mouth like a pez dispenser. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293/52 "2018-02-22T00:19:10Z")
Do you go on a ‘date rich women’ website and pick up Rich Jewish heiresses, or Blond Russian Poker players? I don’t think this is gonna end well for yet another misogynist pig spouting off his perverted views, with his tongue lolling out at the 8 year old gymnasts he sees at the local gym. You, Sir disgust me! ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293/53 "2018-02-22T01:25:03Z")
Back to the OP’s thread-thesis misadventure, part of it seems to call up the notion that there is one “right” way to be a survivor/victim, and you somehow do a disservice to others if you do it the “wrong” way (or worse, that is is suspicious if you’re doing it the “wrong” way). But being a survivor/victim cannot negate someone’s autonomy and agency, and how she responds and what she does about it has to be what’s right for her. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293/54 "2018-02-22T01:45:23Z")
She literally has the words, “Survivor” and “Trust Yourself” written on her body and - oh, look! here comes a dude telling her that she’s doing it wrong! Right on schedule! ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293/55 "2018-02-22T01:57:06Z")
> [@somepumpkin](#): > > … I’m happily married… Is your wife? ---
**Author:** ![SteveMonon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8491ac/32.png) [@SteveMonon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveMonon)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293/56 "2018-02-22T02:07:21Z")
Great pictures, OP, thanks a lot :rolleyes: Had to dig them up myself… Couple of observations: Aly looks a bit mannish in the face. And by “a bit”, I mean Van Diesel in a wig. Also, looks like they’re trying to hide her toes in the pics, probably all fucked up after all that gymnastics shit. I also LOLd when I saw her shilling cooter pads. She probably hasn’t had a period in years. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293/57 "2018-02-22T02:09:05Z")
> [@somepumpkin](#): > > \*\*Aly Raisman. After seeing her pose in SI, I’d like a taste of that! \*\* > > I don’t really care what she does personally, but I think she’s doing womankind a huge disservice with this act\*. So I’m pittin’ that bitch! She gave you a rise, so you’re _pitting_ her? > [@somepumpkin](#): > > At times I was being sarcastic, to (attempt to) make a point. Oh, you were _joking_? About getting horny for a victim of sexual abuse? Good lord. It’s not unreasonable to wonder to yourself whether her actions may have negative consequences. I imagine you might even have been able to have a reasonable discussion about that in the IMHO forum, minus the mansplaining. But you chose to bring it to the pit and adress it in a horribly condescending and juvenile way. By pitting her, you shamed her. Not cool. Any “harm” the lady in question may have caused by doing a glamour shoot is negligible compared to the harm caused by the attitudes you have expressed here. I see that **Iiandyiii** has managed to bring you someway toward a realization of your wrongness. Step away and think a little more about what he’s explained to you. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293/58 "2018-02-22T02:09:48Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > She literally has the words, “Survivor” and “Trust Yourself” written on her body and - oh, look! here comes a dude telling her that she’s doing it wrong! Right on schedule! That she can do this after what she went through demonstrates what a strong woman she is. Good for her. ---
**Author:** ![SteveMonon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8491ac/32.png) [@SteveMonon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveMonon)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293/59 "2018-02-22T02:10:38Z")
[it’s a man, baby…](http://i65.tinypic.com/j7qp8l.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2018, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293/60 "2018-02-22T02:14:55Z")
> [@Crazy\_Canuck](#): > > I’m a proud pervert In that case, you’re just the kind of person the OP likes to talk about after sex. > [@somepumpkin](#): > > What would we talk about after sex? Perverts? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aly-raisman-after-seeing-her-pose-in-si-i-d-like-a-taste-of-that/809293.md?page=4)