# Am I alone in this?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-alone-in-this/12684>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 10, 2000, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-alone-in-this/12684 "2000-01-10T03:20:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Kvallulf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@Kvallulf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kvallulf)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2000, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-alone-in-this/12684/21 "2000-01-11T02:21:00Z")

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Well. sorry. I thought it was boring. The only good part was the joke right before the dude falls thru the ceiling. Does anyone actually know the joke?

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2000, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-alone-in-this/12684/22 "2000-01-11T03:21:00Z")

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Man, I loved that movie. That movie rocked, it was cool. In my humble opinion, this movie was about different types of teen angst. Further, it was about overcoming mutual differences and becoming friends with people who outside of the cliques they have (in some instances) been forced into. I say forced into because you can all remember in high school how you thought you had to act a certain way for people to like you. You needed to be accepted, and that was the bottom line. All this interpretation of the flick…no wonder you hated it. I’m not saying you should be an easily led automoton, but I AM saying that sometimes movies aren’t as deep as you are. So if you read all kinds of things into them, you may miss the point. Snoogans

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“I was being honest, @$$hole, I would expect YOU to know the difference.”  
~~John Bender in The Breakfast Club.  
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**Author:** ![ChrisCTP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@ChrisCTP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChrisCTP)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2000, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-alone-in-this/12684/23 "2000-01-11T04:11:00Z")

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Kvalluf: My friends and I have been searching for the end of that joke for eons. For the moment, we’ve just strung it together with another ridiculous joke.

“Naked lady walks into a bar. Bartender says…So there’s two guys in New Jersey fucking an owl. One guy looks at the other and says, ‘Who are you?’”

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“Fester, fester, fester…rot, rot, rot.”

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2000, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-alone-in-this/12684/24 "2000-01-12T03:21:00Z")

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> Except, she spent most of the movie reaching out, basically saying ‘Notice me! I’m here!’ There was no ‘protective covering’, she spent the whole time striving to be noticed.

Well, she sat in the back of the room, didn’t say a word until lunchtime, and didn’t join the others in toking up. Striving?

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> So just in case you hadn’t noticed that Anthony Hall’s character was the beta male, they make sure he doesn’t have a chick at the end so it’ll be obvious.

Yes, I **really** didn’t like how that character was drawn. I especially didn’t like it that he was so weak he wanted to kill himself, instead of his parents or the teacher who gave him the F. Not that I’m advocating that, but he had no reason to beat himself up.

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> I had observed that Claire was being berated for not telling whether or not she was a virgin, not for actually being one.

A lady never tells.

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> Basically, it tried to make a bunch of stereotypes into humans and didn’t make it very far.

No, it did not. For one thing, the concept was too complex for the film’s length; an hour and a half isn’t nearly long enough to resolve everything. I thought they brought up a lot of issues and then just let them sit there.

The article I read stated that the rough cut was about an hour longer. I think if some of those scenes had been left in, I would have liked it better. For instance, Allison had a couple of scenes, one where she breaks into a teachers locker and finds the **1999** album (that she’s looking at while she eats her Cap’n Crunch) and another where she sings to herself.

Another problem is that it started being dated very soon afterwards. It seems like kindergarten compared to what you hear about today. Nowadays, Alison would be a Goth (and consequently would be able to find friends), Bender would have a gun, not a knife, Brian would be a technogeek, and hopefully less insecure, and Claire might even be more empowered!

## But I still haven’t heard if there’s anyone here who agrees or disagrees that the way Bender goes off on Claire is way over the line. Some of his remarks are definitely sexually harassing (another reason the film couldn’t get made today). I can understand his resentment of her, but not to this extreme. It’s a mystery to me how this ever got to be a “popcorn picture” (i.e. “I’m going to stay home, make popcorn, and watch TBC.”). I’d rather snuggle up watching **Henry, Portrait of a Serial Killer**.

Remember, I’m pulling for you; we’re all in this together.  
—Red Green

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2000, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-alone-in-this/12684/25 "2000-01-12T05:41:00Z")

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> ## Except, she spent most of the movie reaching out, basically saying ‘Notice me! I’m here!’ There was no ‘protective covering’, she spent the whole time striving to be noticed.
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> Well, she sat in the back of the room, didn’t say a word until lunchtime, and didn’t join the others in toking up. Striving?

Yes. Striving. Alright, I’m overlaying personal experience onto this, but I think that can be done successfully in this case.

I was a lot like Allison in HS. I was the weird kid, I sat at the back, never said much… but nonetheless I was striving to be noticed. Even being ‘The Quiet Kid’ is better than being ‘Who?’

It’s a lousy (and failed) strategy, but it is precedented.

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_Eschew Obfuscation_

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