# Am I an asshole? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 11, 2007, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586 "2007-12-11T04:05:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586/41 "2007-12-11T05:08:33Z")
[QUOTE=copperwindow] If I were from Cuba and asked to speak with a Hispanic member of customer service, that would still be racist? If Circut City really felt my behavior was so inappropriate, why did they reward it? [/QUOTE] It’s “Circuit.” I feel my needs would be better served in a thread written by someone who can spell. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586/42 "2007-12-11T05:08:54Z")
[QUOTE=copperwindow] I do feel that I received ambiguous answers from each of them. [/quote] What’s ambiguous about their answers? They both said the policy is not to accept returns without original packaging. The first one offered to bend the rules and accept a re turn anyway; the second one did not. > [@](#): > > I had the sales receipt, throw out the packaging because I wasn’t expecting to be sold something that didn’t work. Not only an asshole but an idiot as well… > [@featherlou](#): > > I have a feeling copperwindow has an agenda here, and we are not privy to it yet. If so, that would also make him an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Hakuna\_Matata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hakuna\_Matata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hakuna_Matata)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586/43 "2007-12-11T05:09:51Z")
[QUOTE=lissener] So tell us: are you a troll or a racist? [/QUOTE] well as I recall old copperwindow enjoys a bit of a bump with his sister so that might explain the addled thinking. I recalled his name and did a quick search and sure enough he was the troll who wanted to know what was wrong with having sex with family members. So my vote is troll. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=413120](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=413120) ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586/44 "2007-12-11T05:11:20Z")
> [@copperwindow](#): > > Am I an asshole? why, yes, yes you are. But why do you ask, surely you knew that, no? ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586/45 "2007-12-11T05:14:29Z")
[QUOTE=copperwindow] If I were from Cuba and asked to speak with a Hispanic member of customer service, that would still be racist? If Circut City really felt my behavior was so inappropriate, why did they reward it? [/QUOTE] If you did so because you thought employees not of your race were incompetent, then yes, you would be. If you did so because you thought employees of your race would be more likely to not follow their store’s policies, you’d be a prick, but not a racist. If you did so because you didn’t speak English, and you didn’t think people not of your race could speak Spanish, you’d be ignorant. All three of these qualify for ‘asshole’, in my book. For the love of god, man, ask a mod to close this thread before you get banned for being the trollish bigot you appear to be. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586/46 "2007-12-11T05:16:59Z")
[QUOTE=copperwindow] If I were from Cuba and asked to speak with a Hispanic member of customer service, that would still be racist? [/quote] Unless there was a language issue (which you did not have), then yes, it would be racist (inasmuch as Hispanics can be classified as a “race”). > [@](#): > > If Circut City really felt my behavior was so inappropriate, why did they reward it? Because the employees of these kinds of stores are expected to humor and placate irrational, asshole customers to an almost absurd degree. If you’ve ever worked in customer service, then you know that dealing with jerk-ass customers is part of the job and you’re not allowed to tell them to fuck off no matter how out of line they get. I can virtually guarantee you (if your story is true) that you were disparaged in the most colorful language imaginable once you were out of earshot. ---
**Author:** ![copperwindow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@copperwindow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/copperwindow)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586/47 "2007-12-11T05:19:36Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Both employees told you what the policy was. [/QUOTE] Assuming that they’re right and there wasn’t another employee who would have let me exchange it with no questions asked. [QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] It looks to me like you got a pretty clear statement of store policy from both of them. The first one was going to give you a break on it. The second one didn’t know what the first one had said. [/QUOTE] Well shouldn’t there be better communication between the two so everyone understands what’s going on? [QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] There is certainly no evidence whatseoever of any “cultural” differences or any inability to communicate to you what store policy was. [/QUOTE] There was some difference in the way we were communicating, period. If I ever talked like that at my job, I would have been fired long ago. Why should I expect to get less than I give out. When they heard me speaking in correct English, shouldn’t they have spoken back to me in correct English? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586/48 "2007-12-11T05:26:12Z")
You seriously need to join the 21st century. I am appalled. I can only imagine what kind of horrible scene may have been created if the employees of Circuit City didn’t do whatever they did to satisfy you and get you out of the store as quickly as possible. The defusing of the situation, which through your own description reeks of bigotry, is to their credit and not yours. It boggles my mind that someone can put out a call for opinions on such a clear incident of intolerance and then imply they did nothing wrong. The first employee tries to cut you some slack on the store’s return policy, and then you turn around and accuse the black help of not knowing store policy. Unbelievable. ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586/49 "2007-12-11T05:28:29Z")
[QUOTE=copperwindow] I could probably have understood him if he were speaking in French, but I understand proper English a bit easier. \ [/QUOTE] Don’t you mean a bit more easily? Jackass. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586/50 "2007-12-11T05:29:59Z")
**copperwindow** , would you like me to fix the thread title for you? You’ve seemed to have transposed the first two words. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586/51 "2007-12-11T05:31:35Z")
C’mon, folks, this guy couldn’t be a more obvious troll if his location said, “Under a bridge.” ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586/52 "2007-12-11T05:32:44Z")
DNFTR. OTOH, if we do feed him, maybe he’ll start telling us his sob stories about how the world hates him because he doesn’t speak Spanish, and he can’t get a job because the Jews run the world, and his dad beat and/or left him at an early age, and eventually he’ll cry about how nobody understands him and then he’ll off himself, at which point the average IQ of the Internet will raise by a couple of points. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586/53 "2007-12-11T05:33:20Z")
[QUOTE=copperwindow] Assuming that they’re right and there wasn’t another employee who would have let me exchange it with no questions asked. [/quote] What reason would you have to believe they were lying to you? because they were black? If they wre lying to you, then why did the first employee offer to accept your returned item anyway? > [@](#): > > Well shouldn’t there be better communication between the two so everyone understands what’s going on? I think it’s unreasonable to expect that the employees would have a perfect degree of communication when they’re working in different parts of the stores. You had every opportunity to tell the second guy what the first guy had said but you chose to play the white power card instead. > [@](#): > > There was some difference in the way we were communicating, period. No there wasn’t. You understood him perfectly. He wasn’t rude or unfair or incomprehensible and what does his race have to do with his grammar anyway? Why would you asume that a white person would have better grammar than a black person. I’m originally from the deep south. I can show you white people who you’d need fucking subtitles to understand. > [@](#): > > If I ever talked like that at my job, I would have been fired long ago. Why should I expect to get less than I give out. When they heard me speaking in correct English, shouldn’t they have spoken back > to me in correct English? They spoke back to you in civil, comprehensible English. There was no attempted slight on “Sean’s” part. Not everybody has perfect grammar. Just out of curiosity, if a white person had said “The first mouse don’t work?” What color employee would you ask to speak to then? ---
**Author:** ![movingfinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@movingfinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/movingfinger)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586/54 "2007-12-11T05:41:02Z")
Yo, when Sir John Gielgud come inta Circuit City wit a problum he say these dudes they speak real proper English, so wassup wit dat? ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586/55 "2007-12-11T05:41:44Z")
[QUOTE=copperwindow] Assuming that they’re right and there wasn’t another employee who would have let me exchange it with no questions asked. [/quote] They are right, dipshit. Not only is that the return guidleines for pretty much any corporate store, it’s also the guideline for CC specifically. [http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/lookLearn.do?cat=-13414&edOid=105452](http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/lookLearn.do?cat=-13414&edOid=105452) The first (black) employee would have cut you a break. He shouldn’t have. > [@](#): > > Well shouldn’t there be better communication between the two so everyone understands what’s going on? If you wanted a second employee to go along with what the first employee said, it was your responsibility to get the two parties together. With a lot of "thanks you"s, "please"s and humility for not understanding that returning a product withoutthe original packaging isn’t any store’s usual MO. > [@](#): > > There was some difference in the way we were communicating, period. If I ever talked like that at my job, I would have been fired long ago. Why should I expect to get less than I give out. When they heard me speaking in correct English, shouldn’t they have spoken back to me in correct English? Dipshit. If you expect the sales staff that caters to you to be of a certain class and affect certain mannerisms, don’t go to stores like Circuit City. Part of how they keep their costs low is by not spending tons of time worring about the speech patterns of their employees. The kid spoke in a manner that was understandable to anyone. Subject verb agreement isn’t necessary for clarity in this situation. You know, I’m actually enjoying this troll feeding. What’s the next stop on your train to banhood? I’d like to check in at all the stations. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586/56 "2007-12-11T05:45:32Z")
[QUOTE=copperwindow] If I ever talked like that at my job, I would have been fired long ago. Why should I expect to get less than I give out. [/QUOTE] Why, indeed? Given how hard you’ve worked to become the wonderful person you are today, you deserve all that comes to you and more. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586/57 "2007-12-11T05:47:33Z")
My theory is that the OPs subscription is about to end and he wants to go out with a trolling bang. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586/58 "2007-12-11T05:48:43Z")
[QUOTE=hajario] My theory is that the OPs subscription is about to end and he wants to go out with a trolling band. [/QUOTE] Playing the douchebagpipes, no doubt. ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586/59 "2007-12-11T05:50:05Z")
[QUOTE=copperwindow] I was explained this to “Robert”, a black employee. Robert asked me if I had the original packaging that the mouse came in. I said I did not. [/QUOTE] Hmm. 😕 Is that how you speak English good? At least they didn’t subject him to a bag check. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586/60 "2007-12-11T05:53:11Z")
[QUOTE=Giraffe] Playing the douchebagpipes, no doubt. [/QUOTE] Good thing you quoted me or my edit would have ruined your joke. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-an-asshole/429586.md?page=4)