# Am I missing something here? (re: reopening of bars, etc... now) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [October 6, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-missing-something-here-re-reopening-of-bars-etc-now/922356 "2020-10-06T17:27:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 1100
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-missing-something-here-re-reopening-of-bars-etc-now/922356/1100 "2020-12-31T13:48:30Z")
> [@SayTwo](#): > > Spin data? They are using some kind of formula that counts virus patients as more than one patient, and you think it’s someone _else_ who is spinning data? After their formula counts unused beds as used and the press runs with stories that they say they are out of beds? It is clear that you do want to ignore that nurses and doctors are a finite quantity. [Yeah this is very similar to climate contrarians that wanted to say the same to paleo climate scientists that they were spinning people by hiding temperature increases, a wrong accusation when what what happened was that non experts misinterpreted the reason why.](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/feb/09/climategate-bogus-sceptics-lies) Read it again, it is clear that just like contrarians of climate science deny that temperatures increased regardless of the divergence problem, contrarians now deny that hospitals do things by not ignoring that people still will get to the ICU for other reasons and clearly prepare for eventualities that are very likely to come. That non hospital business men with some power in government broadcast unfair opinions does not mean that they are correct about how hospitals do things. [What you demand is that we all should behave like the rookie firemen of the steam era that did not like the hissing or noise coming from engine safety valves, some did ignore the instructions about why closing the valve was not a good idea.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_Friend_of_Charleston) I rather listen to the experts on the field rather than an elected dunderhead that was put there by laymen. People that ignore safety valves could make something work for awhile but eventually the few that advice that usually will get the system to blow up in their faces. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-missing-something-here-re-reopening-of-bars-etc-now/922356)._