# Am I missing something here? (re: reopening of bars, etc... now) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [October 6, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-missing-something-here-re-reopening-of-bars-etc-now/922356 "2020-10-06T17:27:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 917
**Author:** ![SayTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@SayTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SayTwo)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-missing-something-here-re-reopening-of-bars-etc-now/922356/917 "2020-12-17T17:45:37Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > Evidence that the people of California are against the shutdowns? None of my friends are. The editorial in the Murky News said that Newsome wasn’t going far enough, and in fact my county is shutting down more than required by the state. Just like at the beginning, which is why our death rate is as low as it is. > I’m sure the Republicans in the Central Valley are pissed off, but most of us don’t care about them. The last ten days have not been kind to this point of view. > **[California Is Coming Apart Over COVID](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/12/california-is-coming-apart-over-covid-19.html)** > > The first state to lock down during the pandemic is a mess now. What went wrong? > In Los Angeles and elsewhere in the Golden State, a sense of anger with seemingly contradictory lockdown orders is growing along with [virus cases](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/11/covid-19-un-normalizing-the-third-u-s-wave-of-the-pandemic.html), which are reaching new records across the state. It’s a major reversal of fate for the first U.S. state to impose a lockdown in March, a move hailed as a success that kept the state from experiencing a surge of infections and death like what happened in New York. Following the spring shutdown, California reopened in June — only to enforce new restrictions in July. The state recorded a [staggering 53,111 new cases Wednesday](https://twitter.com/COVID19Tracking/status/1339367253943279616) and it is [practically out of ICU beds](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-16/southern-california-hospitals-struggle-covid-19-surge). The worsening crisis has led Governor Gavin Newsom to impose a stay-at-home order. While other states have similarly seen infighting, often at the hands of mask skeptics, the latest round of orders from state and local governments are driving a lot of Californians who might otherwise not have strong views on public health politics to question whether their leaders are making good – and fair – decisions. [Protests against lockdowns](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/orange-county-mask-backlash-could-defeat-harley-rouda.html) have erupted outside public health officials’ homes and an effort to [oust](https://apnews.com/article/gavin-newsom-california-recall-a50b5728aa4f9a4b71241e3429881ceb) Newsom is strengthening, with half of the 1.5 million petition signatures to put a recall on the ballot already gathered. Nor, I’d say, to the notion that curfews are proven effective by The Science. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-missing-something-here-re-reopening-of-bars-etc-now/922356)._