# Am I not welcome here?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 29, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149 "2015-05-29T21:50:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/221 "2015-05-31T04:27:50Z")

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Why am I reading this thread?

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/222 "2015-05-31T05:14:10Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Why am I reading this thread?

Masochism?

I also have “Poor, Poor Pitiful Me” (Warren Zevon) as an earworm now. Huzzah.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/223 "2015-05-31T05:26:47Z")

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> [@tapu](#):
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> Question: Is this incidental pitting of me by the book since we’re in the pit thread? What are others opinions on Grotonian’s frantic attacks on me? Is it okay for this to go on?

Speaking as a moderator, he’s a gigantic asshole. But everything he’s posted here is kosher by Pit rules.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/224 "2015-05-31T05:45:45Z")

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> [@Grotonian](#):
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> Good God, man, buy a clue. Neither “crazy” nor “lesbian” is a slur. Nor are they “hateful.” Now stop being such a crazy heterosexual.

Uh huh.

So why that specific descriptor? What does being gay have to do with whether or not you think someone’s crazy?

Crazy bitch? Totally fine as an insult. Crazy fucktard? Why not? It’s fun and it’s got a beat you can dance to. Crazy Muslim? Hrmmm… Crazy Jew… eeeek. Crazy negro/gay/lesbian…

…yeh, fuck you dude. Just call her a “crazy fag” already and show the board the asshole bigot you are.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/225 "2015-05-31T06:16:18Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> …yeh, fuck you dude.

[Moderating]  
Saying “fuck you” to other posters, however, is specifically prohibited. Please don’t do this again.

No warning issued.  
[/Moderating]

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/226 "2015-05-31T06:38:02Z")

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See, protoboard? This is what we do to people who are actually unwelcome. Problem is, they don’t give a shit.

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/227 "2015-05-31T06:58:20Z")

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Okay, Protoboard. I get that you’re unhappy with your life in Portland, is it? And you’re unhappy with a lot of other things also. And that’s a shame. And you feel that you’re unliked here. It could be. If so, it’s still a shame.

The thing is, you’re really not going to see a lot of “love” between posters on any message board, especially a snark happy one like this. That doesn’t mean there isn’t a lot of that going on, it’s just that folks here aren’t great at heaping love and shit on each other. We’re better at negative reinforcement than positive reinforcement. And there’s indifference too, which isn’t as mean as “we don’t like you” but if you’re looking for “we love you”, it’s still disappointing. And those who are indifferent just aren’t all that likely to bother to post indifferent remarks in a thread.

Now, for all the rest of you fussing and fighting here in this thread, we had a way of dealing with this sort of thing in the AOL SD days. I have an acoustic 12-string guitar. I have a John Denver songbook. And I’m not afraid to use them.

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**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/228 "2015-05-31T08:14:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Ranger Jeff;18402778That doesn’t mean there isn’t a lot of that going on, it’s just that folks here aren’t great at heaping love and shit on each other. [/QUOTE]

Thanks for that image!

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/229 "2015-05-31T08:30:01Z")

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> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#):
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> I have an acoustic 12-string guitar. I have a John Denver songbook. And I’m not afraid to use them.

[Welcome to the John Denver Experience!](http://southpark.cc.com/clips/152067/the-john-denver-experience)

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/230 "2015-05-31T09:44:53Z")

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> [@Grotonian](#):
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> …If you don’t think her repeatedly telling posters to get counseling is insulting, good for you. I do find it insulting, and I think I made that clear…

> [@kayT](#):
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> So telling someone that counseling might be helpful is insulting? So needing psychological help is a bad thing? Dude, what a wrongheaded point of view. I mean, seriously, maybe you need, you know, help?

You ninja’d me.

Grotonian, if someone kept complaining about having headaches all the time, would it be insulting to suggest they see a GP?

This guy has complained about unhappiness and difficulty relating to other people for a while. There are people who specialize in helping folks with that sort of problem. It’s not an insult to suggest checking them out.

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**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/231 "2015-05-31T11:39:33Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Speaking as a moderator, he’s a gigantic asshole. But everything he’s posted here is kosher by Pit rules.

Are there Halal rules as well?

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/232 "2015-05-31T12:09:06Z")

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I’m bored with the current hijack. Could you lot please change the subject to something else entertaining? For instance I wonder if there are places where puzz is illegal?

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/233 "2015-05-31T12:10:34Z")

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> [@mascaroni](#):
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> Are there Halal rules as well?

Yes, but asking about them is Haram.

First Halal pit rule, don’t ask about the Halal pit rules.

Second Halal pit rule, don’t ask about the Halal pit rules.

Third rule. No pooftahs.h

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/234 "2015-05-31T14:10:08Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> I’m bored with the current hijack. Could you lot please change the subject to something else entertaining? For instance I wonder if there are places where puzz is illegal?

Close enough.

> [@](#):
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> Glew freely admits to smuggling thousands of Pez dispensers like these from Hungary into the United States.

> **[Quest for the Pez Holy Grail: International Smuggling Meets Father-Son Bonding](https://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/quest-for-the-pez-holy-grail/)**
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> "Extreme collecting is a psychopathological form of collecting."The existence of such an underworld was news to Klawans, but the Hollywood producer knew a...

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/235 "2015-05-31T14:41:06Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> I KNEW IT! None of you dopers like me at all, do you?! You’re all so…unfriendly!
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> _sobs and runs away_

No, we’re smug Calvinists, apparently. Whatever the fuck that means. Something to do with an old comic strip, I’m thinking.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/236 "2015-05-31T15:21:07Z")

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If this is Calvinball, I’m definitely winning.

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/237 "2015-05-31T15:35:57Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> If this is Calvinball, I’m definitely winning.

Ooo, bad luck, dude, I’m afraid that today is Opposite Day.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/238 "2015-05-31T16:42:51Z")

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> [@shantih](#):
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> Ooo, bad luck, dude, I’m afraid that today is Opposite Day.

That’s OK, Panda Darth needs a win, too.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/239 "2015-05-31T17:04:31Z")

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Don’t recall having heard of you before clicking this thread but if what has been posted and referenced here is a fair representation, then … yeah you probably should quit this forum.

The pattern _you_ seem to describe here is someone who, possibly cluelessly, posts insulting rants with a go-to for stereotypes and broad brushstrokes, and then cries for Mommy when people call him on it.

You are, judging from the contents of this thread, apparently looking for a place where can in willful ignorance make stupid insulting comments and only receive positive affirmation in return. You won’t get that here.

Skimming your posting history I see you thread complaining that Canada won’t let you move there because you bring little value to them. Well the powers that be don’t prevent you from posting here if your only flaw is the lack of value you bring but no one will be all that warmly accepting of you if do not at least defend your perspectives with some intelligence or minimally at least in an entertaining way. Whining when called out and claiming that people informing you that you are wrong and out of line is “bullying”? That is neither. Oh and there you are, just asking questions, about if there is any truth to the ideas of Marxism being Jewish and not returning to the thread to discuss what was posted in response.

People are welcomed here if they bring good questions, bring good answers, bring intelligent arguments well expressed (especially if they are ones that challenge what people reading think is true), or are fun to read. The impression from this thread and that quick skim is that you offer none of those.

So yes, you and this board seem like a poor fit and you likely should just quit it.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/240 "2015-05-31T17:30:53Z")

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**Dseid** : Day-um, you nailed it _with eloquence_. Well done. Well done!!

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