# Am I not welcome here?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 29, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149 "2015-05-29T21:50:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/61 "2015-05-30T00:35:51Z")

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Your lack the self awareness to see that every suggestion you’ve been offered in this thread, as to why people judge you harshly, you just bat away.

I must have been drunk,

I’m not a racist, anti Semitic, etc.

But generalizations can be useful.

Just go right on doing the same thing then, and hope for different results. How can that fail?

Also, being called on racist, anti semetic, sweeping, whining generalizations is NOT bullying. Complaint of bullying for being called on bullshit poorly communicated ideas sounds remarkably like childish whining.

Consider that your communication skills may need some tweaking and stop taking it so personally, sheesh!

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/62 "2015-05-30T00:36:01Z")

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> [@protoboard](#):
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> It’s obvious nobody wants me here anyway.

Before this thread I had no opinion on you, but you’ve managed to change that, and I’m now one more datapoint for your thesis. Go the fuck away if you’re not having a good time, but quit your bellyaching about it.

If, on the other hand, you want to change to be less of a whiner, then make the fuckin change.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/63 "2015-05-30T00:40:08Z")

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> [@protoboard](#):
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> Honestly I wouldn’t care if I was blocked. It’s obvious nobody wants me here anyway. They can go ahead if it makes them feel righteous.

The word for today, friends, is tedious. Say it with me now…

T E D I O U S

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**Author:** ![tapu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@tapu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tapu)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/64 "2015-05-30T01:02:36Z")

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Protoboard, everything you have written here sounds like a therapy issue to me. You may find private counseling, perhaps followed by group counseling, to be much more beneficial than trying to sort out your personality issues on a discussion board. Best of luck to you with it. Sincerely, tapu

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/65 "2015-05-30T01:11:50Z")

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> [@protoboard](#):
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> I’m actually pretty thick skinned but when you are perpetually treated like crap, eventually you just wanna bitch about it. Not just on Straight Dope but pretty much everywhere. Like the Canadian border guards one time told me I couldn’t enter Canada for no reason other than wanting to ruin my day. Actually that happened twice even though i was well prepared for the trip. I’ve been treated like ass my whole life for no good reason at all, and then called a whiner when I speak up about it.

Wait, the Canadian border guards “just wanted to ruin your day?” Did they know you? I mean, why would they have decided “yep, that guy there, let’s ruin his travel plans!!!”

**Why** do you say that they turned you away to ruin your day?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/66 "2015-05-30T01:26:48Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> What? He’s a Doper. He’d go home and open a self-serving Pit thread about it, of course.

Would you like me to? I’m in a pretty good mood, but I could throw something together for **protoboard**.

> [@raventhief](#):
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> Wait, the Canadian border guards “just wanted to ruin your day?” Did they know you? I mean, why would they have decided “yep, that guy there, let’s ruin his travel plans!!!”
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> **Why** do you say that they turned you away to ruin your day?

That’s what has me coming back for more, as I’ve always had pleasant experiences with the Canadian crossing guards. Unlike the US border patrol they never strip-searched me for evidence I suspect was planted (I would never leave behind a roach that big).

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**Author:** ![protoboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/fbc32d/32.png) [@protoboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/protoboard)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/67 "2015-05-30T01:27:37Z")

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You guys make city-data people look nice lol

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**Author:** ![protoboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/fbc32d/32.png) [@protoboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/protoboard)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/68 "2015-05-30T01:30:55Z")

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I have decided I am just going to fake happiness and agreement when I post here, since that is obviously what people want to hear…

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**Author:** ![protoboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/fbc32d/32.png) [@protoboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/protoboard)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/69 "2015-05-30T01:32:03Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Would you like me to? I’m in a pretty good mood, but I could throw something together for **protoboard**.
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> That’s what has me coming back for more, as I’ve always had pleasant experiences with the Canadian crossing guards. Unlike the US border patrol they never strip-searched me for evidence I suspect was planted (I would never leave behind a roach that big).

My advice? Just avoid the Canadian guards at Peace Arch at all costs. They are the only place I’ve ever really had trouble in. They are very smug there.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/70 "2015-05-30T01:37:21Z")

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> [@protoboard](#):
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> I have decided I am just going to fake happiness and agreement when I post here, since that is obviously what people want to hear…

No, don’t do that. Happiness and agreement rapidly become cloying and dull.

What we like around here are incisive refutations, trenchant debunkings, strenuous arguments, sarcastic deflatings, long-winded explanations by posters with clear and impressive in-depth mastery of their subject, and the occasional comical drive-by snark.

We are the Children of Cecil.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/71 "2015-05-30T01:38:01Z")

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> [@protoboard](#):
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> I have decided I am just going to fake happiness and agreement when I post here, since that is obviously what people want to hear…

What we actually want more than anything else is evidence. When you make a claim on the SDMB, back it up. Don’t just say it, show us why it’s the truth.

We’re completely happy to be shown wrong. You’ve just got to back it up with something concrete.

The last thing we want here is for you to fake it. Be honest. (Yeah, a little diplomacy goes a long way.) Tell the truth and shame the devil. But back it up with facts.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/72 "2015-05-30T01:50:09Z")

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> [@protoboard](#):
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> I’ve been treated like ass my whole life for no good reason at all, and then called a whiner when I speak up about it.

Said the racist antisemite. Y’all sound alike.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/73 "2015-05-30T01:53:26Z")

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> [@protoboard](#):
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> I have decided I am just going to fake happiness and agreement when I post here, since that is obviously what people want to hear…

Dude. What the fuck.

_I offered to take you to a goddamn strip club._

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/74 "2015-05-30T01:57:26Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> We’re completely happy to be shown wrong. You’ve just got to back it up with something concrete.

Have you never read a thread in Great Debates? 😕

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/75 "2015-05-30T02:04:09Z")

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> [@The Great Sun Jester](#):
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> Don’t sweat it. I’m fairly universally ignored here and not well-respected, but I persist nonetheless for the company of a handful of posters.

I don’t know why you would say that. I’ve always enjoyed your posts, your sense of humour, and your positive contributions to the SDMB. When I see that you’ve posted, I want to read it to see what you’ve said.

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/76 "2015-05-30T02:04:31Z")

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> [@protoboard](#):
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> I have decided I am just going to fake happiness and agreement when I post here, since that is obviously what people want to hear…

oh, for fuck’s sake, you little victim. Don’t bother. Just go away.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/77 "2015-05-30T02:11:22Z")

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Honestly, **protoboard** , being harsh and antagonistic is part of our culture around here. Like I said, nobody says you have to like it.

But if you keep complaining about it, you come across sort of like a person who voluntarily climbs into a boxing ring and then gets all upset that somebody else is hitting them. Yeah, hello, that’s a major part of what we’re here for in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/78 "2015-05-30T02:16:59Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Dude. What the fuck.
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> _I offered to take you to a goddamn strip club._

Why would he want to go somewhere where he wasn’t the center of attention?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/79 "2015-05-30T02:25:57Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Why would he want to go somewhere where he wasn’t the center of attention?

If he throws down enough bills he will be.

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**Author:** ![protoboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/fbc32d/32.png) [@protoboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/protoboard)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-not-welcome-here/721149/80 "2015-05-30T02:26:32Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Said the racist antisemite. Y’all sound alike.

I said ONE stupid thing. I apologized. I’m sorry.

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