# Am I reading a codeword or am I just a liberal douchebag? Or both? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 22, 2015, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-reading-a-codeword-or-am-i-just-a-liberal-douchebag-or-both/728523 "2015-08-22T13:21:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-reading-a-codeword-or-am-i-just-a-liberal-douchebag-or-both/728523/1 "2015-08-22T13:21:38Z")
This is a poll about possibly irrational gut reactions, and acting on them or not. I’m about to go on a road trip. My first planned stop is Savannah, Il. It’s right along the east bank of the Mississippi, a little more than 2 hours out, and I decided I would stop there for breakfast/lunch. I Googled it. And I found the #1 rated restaurant, named Kountry Kettle. And my very first thought was, “Hmmm … redneck country … KK…? Is the owner is some kind of white supremacist, with a thinly disguised business name to keep away the undesirables?” My second thought was, “That’s pretty fuckin’ out there. And I have absolutely no evidence, besides a gut reaction, which is no evidence at all, that it’s that kind of place.” A bit of further poking around on the web revealed nothing I didn’t already know, which is that a dozen or so Yelp reviewers claimed it was a good restaurant. So I’m still going to go there because it doesn’t seem fair to the business for me to … boycott if for a day. How crazy am I? I’ll probably leaving within an hour. I might have an opportunity to do my first ever post to the Dope on a phone. If I see a place full of 80 year old white guys wearing bib overalls, confederate flag hats, and chewing, er, chaw? … I’ll let you know. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-reading-a-codeword-or-am-i-just-a-liberal-douchebag-or-both/728523/2 "2015-08-22T13:27:53Z")
Probably not. It’s more likely just a whimsical way of rendering _Country Kettle_ to make it look distinctive and memorable. Have a nice trip! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![CheshireKat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheshirekat/32/1207_2.png) [@CheshireKat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheshireKat)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-reading-a-codeword-or-am-i-just-a-liberal-douchebag-or-both/728523/3 "2015-08-22T13:30:21Z")
The abbreviation for the white supremacist group is KKK. Don’t eat at any \*Kountry Kettle Katfish \*places and you’ll be fine. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Renee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/renee/32/287_2.png) [@Renee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-reading-a-codeword-or-am-i-just-a-liberal-douchebag-or-both/728523/4 "2015-08-22T13:33:29Z")
I know the previous owner of a reastrant in Wisconsin named Kueals Kountry Kitchen. (that first name isn’t quite right, but it’s something like that. I don’t know if it’s still open. ) I was horrified on a couple of levels, but she’s one of the nicest people I know, and no signs of racism. Still, pretty bad name, right? ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-reading-a-codeword-or-am-i-just-a-liberal-douchebag-or-both/728523/5 "2015-08-22T13:35:27Z")
I think you’ll be fine. 🙂 I googled Kountry, just for the heck of it, and there were all sorts of things. I like this one: [http://kittensburlesque.webs.com](http://kittensburlesque.webs.com) Kountry Kittens. I am very envious of you. I so want to take a long road trip. Be safe and have a great time. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-reading-a-codeword-or-am-i-just-a-liberal-douchebag-or-both/728523/6 "2015-08-22T13:39:41Z")
The only think they are guilty of is poor spelling. Intentionally misspelling words that should start with a ‘C’ is just a cutesy way of trying to portray down-hominess. There are thousands of examples based around that theme all over the country (kountry) and this is just an example of one. ---
**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-reading-a-codeword-or-am-i-just-a-liberal-douchebag-or-both/728523/7 "2015-08-22T13:55:18Z")
We had a couple of places around us that started with KK intentionally, and it wasn’t anything special. It was people or companies who thought that using K instead of C was more country. Maybe it reminded them of Kentucky or something. But there was no other meaning. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-reading-a-codeword-or-am-i-just-a-liberal-douchebag-or-both/728523/8 "2015-08-22T14:21:48Z")
Yeah, there’s lots of that everywhere (Kwik Kopy, anyone?) and I’ve never even heard a wisp of it being associated with white supremacy. I think some just see it as cutesy alliteration and nothing more. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-reading-a-codeword-or-am-i-just-a-liberal-douchebag-or-both/728523/9 "2015-08-22T14:22:19Z")
Not that there’s anything wrong with that. I am, too. Anyway, I doubt this is a front for the KKK. As others have said, it’s much more likely to be guilty of kutesy spelling and nothing more. ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-reading-a-codeword-or-am-i-just-a-liberal-douchebag-or-both/728523/10 "2015-08-22T14:57:43Z")
> [@](#): > > reading a codeword Dont just worry about the resurgence of the KKK–there are other dangerous groups out there, too. Have you paid attention to the heavy trucks you pass on the highway? The word “Heil” is prominently painted on many parts of the truck. Yes —it’s true!–just pay attention, and you’ll see it. This is a pretty obvious codeword, and it’s everywhere. You can be sure this is a sign of widespread support for the neo-nazi underground. Or maybe it’s because there is a [company named Heil](http://www.heil.com/about) in Wisconsin that makes heavy trucks. Sometimes, ya know, a cigar is just a cigar. Being afraid of a “Kountry Kitchen” full of working-class white men is , well, …a problem certain liberals suffer from. Here’s how to solve the problem: stop in, sit at the counter, and order a big hearty breakfast And , while you eat your biscuits and gravy, instead of complaining that the menu doesnt have any quinoa and tofu…try talking to the folks around you. ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-reading-a-codeword-or-am-i-just-a-liberal-douchebag-or-both/728523/11 "2015-08-22T15:01:30Z")
You’re Kracking up, man, seeing K’s around every Korner. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-reading-a-codeword-or-am-i-just-a-liberal-douchebag-or-both/728523/12 "2015-08-22T15:48:46Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > The only thin(g) they are guilty of is poor spelling. Intentionally misspelling words that should start with a ‘C’ is just a cutesy way of trying to portray down-hominess. I’ve seen such nauseating spellings in the Midwest, with no accompanying Confederate flags, waiters in white-hooded outfits or other accoutrements that might signify a dubious racial orientation. Use of “K” instead of “C” in this context is about as racist as a place offering “sweet tea” on the menu (which is also nauseating). Oh, and while it may not be on your route, don’t miss a chance to stop off in [Hurley, Virginia](http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2015/08/20/confederate-flag-hurley-high-school-virginia/32064685/) (a real down-home place). ---
**Author:** ![Inter\_Alia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@Inter\_Alia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inter_Alia)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-reading-a-codeword-or-am-i-just-a-liberal-douchebag-or-both/728523/13 "2015-08-22T15:54:57Z")
There’s a restaurant in my town called Kountry Kitchen. I know the owners, and they were just being cutesy. The owners of Kountry Kettle probably had the same idea. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-reading-a-codeword-or-am-i-just-a-liberal-douchebag-or-both/728523/14 "2015-08-22T15:55:15Z")
It’s nothing to worry about. Kountry Kettle is simply a funny way of spelling it. It’s not unlike places in the Smokies or others in the South that might still use the Barney Google sort of hillbilly as a mascot. It don’t mean nuthin’ other than they’s tryin’ to be cute…kind of like a Cracker Barrel type of thing. Or the old defunct Po’ Folks restaurant. ---
**Author:** ![CheshireKat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheshirekat/32/1207_2.png) [@CheshireKat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheshireKat)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-reading-a-codeword-or-am-i-just-a-liberal-douchebag-or-both/728523/15 "2015-08-22T15:58:55Z")
I always wondered what possessed the owners to name their restaurant [THIS.](http://www.kuntrykatfish.com/) Despite the name and the horrible photo on their main page, the food was delicious. ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-reading-a-codeword-or-am-i-just-a-liberal-douchebag-or-both/728523/16 "2015-08-22T16:10:34Z")
Would you avoid Krispky Kreme as well? ---
**Author:** ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-reading-a-codeword-or-am-i-just-a-liberal-douchebag-or-both/728523/17 "2015-08-22T16:40:04Z")
The poll is goofy and I’ll skip it. The KK name would raise my eyebrows a bit but I’d give the benefit of the doubt and assume it was the proprietor’s idea of country charm. > [@chappachula](#): > > Or maybe it’s because there is a [company named Heil](http://www.heil.com/about) in Wisconsin that makes heavy trucks. There’s also a microphone company called [Heil Sound](http://www.heilsound.com/). ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-reading-a-codeword-or-am-i-just-a-liberal-douchebag-or-both/728523/18 "2015-08-22T17:23:58Z")
> [@CheshireKat](#): > > I always wondered what possessed the owners to name their restaurant [THIS.](http://www.kuntrykatfish.com/) > > Despite the name and the horrible photo on their main page, the food was delicious. Did you try the Krab Kakes? ---
**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-reading-a-codeword-or-am-i-just-a-liberal-douchebag-or-both/728523/19 "2015-08-22T18:00:41Z")
I know this woman who thought it would be a good idea to name her cake shop KKK Katie’s. To be read as “cake, cake, cake.” Her name wasn’t even Katie…everybody talked her out of it. She just had no idea. I know there is a song, but AFAIK it is more “kuh kuh kuh” than “kay kay kay.” ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-reading-a-codeword-or-am-i-just-a-liberal-douchebag-or-both/728523/20 "2015-08-22T18:23:29Z")
> [@Indistinguishable](#): > > Would you avoid Krispky Kreme as well? Beat me to it, Krispy Kreme is also initialed KK. You’re reading too much into this. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-reading-a-codeword-or-am-i-just-a-liberal-douchebag-or-both/728523.md?page=2)