# Am I Satan, or just a garden variey psychopath? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 6, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656 "2011-01-06T20:53:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656/81 "2011-01-07T16:38:29Z")
**tdn** , your previous posts on dating do tend to come off a little strange, too. The references to pick up artists, the thread on the woman who said you had known for a few weeks but already had a connection most people don’t have for years…You sometimes come off as a little intense and tend to read a lot into things that aren’t there. It might be a bit wise to slow down your dating style. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656/82 "2011-01-07T16:38:54Z")
“Ignore the warts, baby— I doused myself with Febreze.” ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656/83 "2011-01-07T16:40:41Z")
Warning: Febreze does not protect you from STDs. If your erection lasts more than four hours, see a doctor. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656/84 "2011-01-07T16:42:45Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > **tdn** , your previous posts on dating do tend to come off a little strange, too. The references to pick up artists, the thread on the woman who said you had known for a few weeks but already had a connection most people don’t have for years…You sometimes come off as a little intense and tend to read a lot into things that aren’t there. It might be a bit wise to slow down your dating style. I know how I sometimes come off. You’ll have to trust me to know what I’m doing. And if you can’t trust me, at least wish me luck. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656/85 "2011-01-07T16:46:51Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > I know how I sometimes come off. You’ll have to trust me to know what I’m doing. > > And if you can’t trust me, at least wish me luck. So you know that you come off a little creepy when you talk about dating and you just want to continue doing that? If that many people were telling me that what I was doing seemed bizarre or wasn’t working (whether it’s about dating, clothing, etc.), I think I’d start to pay at least a little attention. You’ve posted enough about pickup artistry that it’s clear you want to be seen as cool and self-confident, yet your posts about women tend to come off borderline skeevy. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656/86 "2011-01-07T16:50:52Z")
So… you’re not wishing me luck? ---
**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656/87 "2011-01-07T16:51:16Z")
> [@Gestalt](#): > > Well, you could always rent a car. It just adds a touch of class. This. Plus, if she doesn’t show up, you won’t be stuck waiting for the next bus home. Am I the only one who finds it odd that this woman is willing to travel for six hours to have NSA sex, assuming that she even plans to have sex with\*\* tdn\*\*? One of the easiest things in the world for a woman to obtain is sex. Most women wouldn’t have to walk 6 feet or spend 6 minutes finding someone to have sex with, never mind drive 6 hours. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656/88 "2011-01-07T16:51:40Z")
Meh. Prior to becoming involved with The Druidess, I had a number of encounters similar to what TDN has planned. Generally, a good time was had by all. None of them led to anything permanent, but a couple did lead to relationships that lasted a few months. I say good luck, and definitely use protection. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656/89 "2011-01-07T16:53:50Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Meh. Prior to becoming involved with The Druidess, I had a number of encounters similar to what TDN has planned. Generally, a good time was had by all. Were your buses air-conditioned? ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656/90 "2011-01-07T16:54:30Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > I say good luck, and definitely use protection. Thanks! And of course I’ll use protection. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656/91 "2011-01-07T17:02:05Z")
You say you know what you’re doing, **tdn** , but it was a revelation to you when someone suggested that you buy the girl dinner first before you try to fuck her. You say you don’t want to let her family down and “give her a great experience,” but you haven’t indicated that you have any other intentions but sex. You are joking about bringing sex toys along to see a woman you’ve never even met before. That stuff comes off as way too strong, too forward, too intense, too optimistic, too sex obsessed…all the stuff that adds up to “creepy.” That thing you said about being on a second (and from what I remember, last) date with a girl and having a bond “that most couples don’t have after ten years” came off as absurd, and if you really believed it, it was delusional. Maybe you’re just talking hyperbolically and aren’t as intense internally as your posts would suggest, but you do create an impression… ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656/92 "2011-01-07T17:03:40Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Were your buses air-conditioned? Well, ok…I didn’t do the bus thing. I’ve always had a car and such. But the meeting off the internet for a weekend of debauchery thing happened several times. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656/93 "2011-01-07T17:04:28Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Meh. Prior to becoming involved with The Druidess, I had a number of encounters similar to what TDN has planned. Generally, a good time was had by all. None of them led to anything permanent, but a couple did lead to relationships that lasted a few months. Oh, well in that case it’s perfectly safe for women to go off alone to meet random strangers from the internet in out of towm hotel rooms. Your anecdotal experience dmonstrates conclusively that all internet strangers are safe and decent people. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656/94 "2011-01-07T17:05:07Z")
Pfff. I’ve had weekends of debauchery before Al Gore even invented the internet. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656/95 "2011-01-07T17:06:22Z")
Debauchery isn’t the point. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656/96 "2011-01-07T17:07:07Z")
Report back after the weekend and let us know how it went, 'kay? (Some of us have boring jobs and live vicariously through others in between filing and typing.) ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656/97 "2011-01-07T17:08:06Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > You say you know what you’re doing, **tdn** , but it was a revelation to you when someone suggested that you buy the girl dinner first before you try to fuck her. You say you don’t want to let her family down and “give her a great experience,” but you haven’t indicated that you have any other intentions but sex. You are joking about bringing sex toys along to see a woman you’ve never even met before. That stuff comes off as way too strong, too forward, too intense, too optimistic, too sex obsessed…all the stuff that adds up to “creepy.” I dunno. Especially if they met on an “adult” dating site. In that scenario, meeting halfway with the expectation of sex on the first date is not all that unusual. Generally folks do the meet in public thing, but that is often a restaurant/coffee shop near a convenient hotel. Assuming the people have some degree of chemistry, horizontal bopping ensues more often than not. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656/98 "2011-01-07T17:10:16Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Oh, well in that case it’s perfectly safe for women to go off alone to meet random strangers from the internet in out of towm hotel rooms. Your anecdotal experience dmonstrates conclusively that all internet strangers are safe and decent people. I suppose that would be interesting and relevant if I had made any such claim. Since I didn’t, not so much. Just said it isn’t as unusual as some in this thread seem to think. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656/99 "2011-01-07T17:13:31Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > That doesn’t mean they aren’t right to be worried. She may be in her 30’s, but she’s still making a poor decision. Worried, fine, but should they have veto power over a 30+ woman’s sex life? What is this, Afghanistan? You said yourself you’d “never let one of your daughters do this.” Is your daughter over 30, and when she is, do you really, honestly see yourself wanting a controlling interest in who and how she dates? To the point of “not letting her” if you think she’s making a bad decision? What are you proposing, her family should physically lock her up if she insists on going? She’s an adult, and even if she was 10 years younger that would be the case; her family is welcome to express their concerns but ultimately she has the right to make her own decisions, whatever her family thinks of their wisdom. Y’know, **tdn** , I apologize in advance if this now gets derailed totally, but I couldn’t let that pass without adding my piece. I hope that it was mostly a case of a bunch of people here skipping over the post that stated how old she was; I found it disturbing that there seemed to be be posters who think that it’s proper that a 30+ woman needs to ask mommy and daddy for permission before traveling to meet a guy and possibly, O horrors, sleep with him. Personally, I wouldn’t have chosen a B&B 6 hours away from home for a first date myself. The fact that her family was so upset to begin with, to me, is a bit of a red flag. I think you went above and beyond by talking with her mom and reassuring her. I hope both your expectations are reasonable and that at the very least neither of you comes away hurt from this. Have a good time. ---
**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656/100 "2011-01-07T17:15:16Z")
> [@dmatsch](#): > > Anybody who is a charter member of the 'Dope is certainly a psychopath. [You _ **rannng** _?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lurch_(The_Addams_Family)) I mean- Oh, bosh! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-satan-or-just-a-garden-variey-psychopath/566656.md?page=6)