# Am I the only one this annoys? (Dad/daughter stuff) **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [February 7, 2012, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-this-annoys-dad-daughter-stuff/612084 "2012-02-07T16:47:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Hermitian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hermitian/32/470_2.png) [@Hermitian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermitian)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-this-annoys-dad-daughter-stuff/612084/123 "2012-02-08T22:13:19Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Indeed. The rate of teen pregnancy having decreased steadily since the '50s must be due to the greater number of involved fathers these days. The presence of a father in the home has a huge factor on teenage pregnancy. "Yet even when these factors were taken into account, the study found that a father’s absence in itself seemed to put daughters at risk for having children early. Girls whose fathers left either before they were born or up to age 5 were seven to eight times more at risk of becoming pregnant as an adolescent than girls living with their fathers. A father’s departure between ages 6 to13 suggested a two to three times greater risk of becoming pregnant." > **[Absentee Fathers and Teen Pregnancy](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/articles/200305/absentee-fathers-and-teen-pregnancy)** > > Missing fathers linked to daughters' early sexual activity. A father's absence ups a daughter's risk for early sexual activity and teenage pregnancy, according to a recent long-term study. ---
**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-this-annoys-dad-daughter-stuff/612084/124 "2012-02-08T22:15:37Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > But I am afraid I disagree with you - setting rules and expectations _is_ part of being involved with your children’s lives. Yes, it is part of it. but it is not all of it. Not even the greater part of it. Let me ask you a question: if the only contact a father has with his daughters, is informing them of the rules, and beating them when they disobey, would you say that is within the definition of the type of “involved” that is positive for the children? That is why I say that rules and involvement are not directly related ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-this-annoys-dad-daughter-stuff/612084/125 "2012-02-08T22:20:29Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Good for him, but making a different set of decisions doesn’t make someone an insane control freak. No, different decisions don’t make someone a control freak. But I am of the opinion that Crafter\_Man’s particular decision \*do \*make him a control freak. Not all decisions are created equal. I was objecting to your statement that a father who doesn’t control every little thing his daughter do is automatically not an ‘involved’ father, that he just doesn’t care. > [@Shodan](#): > > Isn’t that what **Meyer6** ’s mother was doing when she gave her condoms? The rule is “no sex without a condom”. How is providing condoms making a rule? My mom also bought Cheerios, but it wasn’t a ‘rule’ that I had to eat them for breakfast. The condoms were a suggestion and an attempt to avoid the common problem of teens who are to embarrassed to go buy their own birth control. There was no law laid down and no punishment associated with not using the condoms, so it’s not at all like Crafter\_Man’s rules. There’s nothing wrong with a father sitting his daughter down and talking to her about sex, talking about the possible ramifications, and suggesting that she may want to wait. Personally, I think that there is something wrong with laying down such strict rules for your daughters that they can’t even be in the same room as a boy without Daddy there until they are 18. What happens at 18 that will magically allow them to know how to relate to members of the opposite sex? Teens who have a good relationship with their parents may well be less likely to get pregnant. But a good relationship doesn’t have to come from a strict ‘my roof, my rules’ type of father. I suppose it’s possible for those kinds of fathers to have a good relationship with their daughters, but in my experience as a teenage girl, that wasn’t the case. Those girls just learned how to be sneaky and learned that they couldn’t go to dad with a major problem because he would blow his top. And they saw sex as a ‘forbidden fruit’ type thing that was \*way \*more tantalizing because it was so taboo. ---
**Author:** ![raspberry\_hunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@raspberry\_hunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raspberry_hunter)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-this-annoys-dad-daughter-stuff/612084/126 "2012-02-08T22:20:41Z")
> [@Heart\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I’m not brushing them aside; quite the contrary. Pregnancy and abortion are huge things for anyone, especially a teen girl, to go through. I’d hate for my teen daughter to have to go through either of them, and I’d hate _just as much_ for my teen son to be responsible for someone else going through either of them. I am equally interested in preventing either situation. That is awesome of you. I must confess that I am more interested in preventing harm to my child than in preventing my child from doing harm to another person. I do not think this is a good thing (and obviously I do not want my child to do harm to another person); however, it is true (and I suspect is true of many parents). > [@](#): > > I’m also saying that, in the entire life of the child, pregnancy and breastfeeding are just two small, brief components. Heh. Speaking as the mom of a 2-year-old, I would love to come to that day. I’m not there yet. Pregnancy and breastfeeding still loom very large in my mind, even though I’m done with both of them. > [@](#): > > Moms are the only ones who can breastfeed, but that doesn’t mean they necessarily do _more_ work. Dads can do more of other things (all the diaper changing, for instance) to make up the difference. You’re totally right that if the parents aren’t living together, it can make it a lot harder for each to do their equal share. But I think it’s almost always possible. I’m finding it hard to imagine a situation where the baby can’t, for instance, be in the mom’s care for a certain period of time, and then in the dad’s care for an equal period. It may not be very practical, but having a baby when you’re a teen generally isn’t. Well, that pretty much defines the breastfeeding period, right? For the first year of the Little One’s life, my husband could take off for a couple of days, but I could only take off for a couple of hours (unless I’d pumped, but that was a whole other mess). And at that point the kid has probably bonded to the mom because the mom always has to be there, so when breastfeeding is over and dad tries to take the kid for three days without mom there, the kid is going to have a meltdown. (Not that we would have experienced this or anything. And we DO live together!) And that will exacerbate the problem. It’s really hard to make it equal even when you want it to be, and then when you add in the fact that most people have cultural attitudes that don’t play into that, it’s really hard. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-this-annoys-dad-daughter-stuff/612084/127 "2012-02-09T00:17:45Z")
> [@Heart\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I’m not brushing them aside; quite the contrary. Pregnancy and abortion are huge things for anyone, especially a teen girl, to go through. I’d hate for my teen daughter to have to go through either of them, and I’d hate _just as much_ for my teen son to be responsible for someone else going through either of them. I am equally interested in preventing either situation. I agree that I’d want to prevent either situation, but in a Skald-the-Rhymer type hypothetical where I had to choose between my daughter becoming a mother and my son becoming a father, I’d go for the son. I think most people would. > [@](#): > > I’m also saying that, in the entire life of the child, pregnancy and breastfeeding are just two small, brief components. Moms are the only ones who can breastfeed, but that doesn’t mean they necessarily do _more_ work. Dads can do more of other things (all the diaper changing, for instance) to make up the difference. You’re totally right that if the parents aren’t living together, it can make it a lot harder for each to do their equal share. But I think it’s almost always possible. I’m finding it hard to imagine a situation where the baby can’t, for instance, be in the mom’s care for a certain period of time, and then in the dad’s care for an equal period. It may not be very practical, but having a baby when you’re a teen generally isn’t. Pregnancy and breastfeeding can be a year, easily. For a teenager, a year is a long time. Shared care like that can be very disruptive to the child - they end up living out of a suitcase, it’s harder for the parents to remember when to send in the PE kit, the baby/toddler doesn’t have a regular bedtime routine, potty training gets disrupted moving from one house to another, etc etc. It’s not just not practical, but not good for the kid. And it requires the parents to live very close to each other, both of them in homes where they can look after a child, including a room for the child when it gets older. Teen parents probably do live pretty close, so that’s an advantage, but they’re less likely to have reliable personal transportation and extra bedrooms. Shared care requires excellent organisational skills resources which most teens don’t have. There are reasons more people don’t do it, and it’s not just down to deadbeat Dads (or Mums). And if one of them wants to go to college or move somewhere to find work rather than living on welfare, then they might well end up living far apart. That happens to adult parents, let alone teenagers. > [@](#): > > And yes, the teen mom is absolutely going to get more shit for it, regardless of what she does, than the teen dad. That doesn’t make me any more comfortable with the idea of my son becoming a teen father, and I don’t think any other parents should be, either. > > This is what I’m saying. I’m not annoyed by this attitude, per se (depending on the motivation behind it). I’m annoyed when it’s only directed at daughters. I agree it shouldn’t only be directed at daughters; but I think there are practical reasons why people are _more_ worried about their daughters. ---
**Author:** ![scratch\_llll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@scratch\_llll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scratch_llll)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-this-annoys-dad-daughter-stuff/612084/128 "2012-02-09T02:17:05Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > That’s a whole lot of assumptions and biases piled on top of each other. In any case, if we’re talking about teenagers who are just getting to know each other, it just might not be a good time to meet people’s parents. They should be allowed to work out for themselves when and if they want to start introducing their family members. If you aren’t biased in favor of your kid then then you aint much of a father. When I started dating I met the girls folks. I showed them I was a decent guy and aleviated some of their fears, it’s just the right thing to do. It’s bad enough the daughter is with an inexperienced driver so you want to show them you can obey the rules of civilized behavior at least. If they are dating then damn right it is the right time. What? You want they should introduce themselves after they break up? > [@Acsenray](#): > > At the point that your daughter is thinking about whom she might marry, you don’t get to force your opinion on what kind of son-in-law you want. And you claim _I_ make assumptions. I didn’t force my opinion on my daughter. I taught her to evaluate and make her own decisions freely and I set an example by being a good man. From that she was able to choose someone with good values. Honestly, some of you folks have the strangest ideas. Just because a father doesn’t want his daughter to hook up with a spineless skulker you assume control freak instead of loving father. Quite frankly that says way more about you than it does me. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-this-annoys-dad-daughter-stuff/612084/129 "2012-02-09T02:53:12Z")
> [@scratch\_llll](#): > > If you aren’t biased in favor of your kid then then you aint much of a father. Which is a complete non sequitur to what I said. I think you have some very specific unjustified prejudices about what delaying meeting people’s families say about the characters of young people. To answer that with some weird aphorism about being biased in favor of your kid is just bizarre. > [@scratch\_llll](#): > > IJust because a father doesn’t want his daughter to hook up with a spineless skulker you assume control freak instead of loving father. Quite frankly that says way more about you than it does me. The issue isn’t what you _want_. The issue is how you go about handling it. Parading around demanding that other people meet your schedule about introductions and then drawing conclusions about whether this tiny bit of evidence amounts to someone not being good enough for your daughter is almost a classic caricature of a domineering father. And, hey, yeah, you were the perfect young man, I guess. But different people are different. ---
**Author:** ![scratch\_llll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@scratch\_llll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scratch_llll)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-this-annoys-dad-daughter-stuff/612084/130 "2012-02-09T03:41:18Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Which is a complete non sequitur to what I said. I think you have some very specific unjustified prejudices about what delaying meeting people’s families say about the characters of young people. To answer that with some weird aphorism about being biased in favor of your kid is just bizarre.. Everything we do and say says something about our characters. You can’t get away from that. Particularly what we do. It is bizarre to think otherwise. When someone hasn’t the courage to meet the parents it doesn’t speak well for them in any way. Pull up and honk? What is your impression of someone who does that? We are talking dating in this thread not meeting in the halls. Non sequitur my ass. I’m the one being cogent > [@Acsenray](#): > > The issue isn’t what you _want_. The issue is how you go about handling it. Parading around demanding that other people meet your schedule about introductions and then drawing conclusions about whether this tiny bit of evidence amounts to someone not being good enough for your daughter is almost a classic caricature of a domineering father. And the assumptions just don’t stop do they? I handled it well. My daughter handled it well for an inexperienced teen. My son in law is top notch. The proof is in the pudding. When they are on the phone that is the time for privacy but when it’s a date that’s the time for introductions. You obviously haven’t had a daughter if you think anyone is good enough for her but my son in law is the cream on the cream of all those not good enough. I like him immensely, hell, I love him. He showed the good sense to recognize how wonderful my daughter is and the courage to meet the man who had a hand in her upbringing. That’s character. > [@Acsenray](#): > > And, hey, yeah, you were the perfect young man, I guess. But different people are different. Gah. Perfect? Hardly. I wanted in my dates pants like any guy. You think I don’t know the guys who came to date my beautiful daughter wanted that? But they showed me they could respect her wishes by first respecting mine. People are different. I sure didn’t want my daughter to date someone so different they were incapable of treating her well. You want to trust your teens judgement but you remember how green you were at judging people at that age too. A conversation with the folks goes a long way in proving character, not all the way, but enough. ---
**Author:** ![sisu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@sisu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisu)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-this-annoys-dad-daughter-stuff/612084/131 "2012-02-09T03:51:57Z")
Jeez as a dad it is meant as a joke, lighten up FFS. All the people who say “I’m not a dad but” well you are not a dad so you have no clue what it is like. Our daughters will always be our little girls for ever, even though I have one that is at uni, independent, has a great boyfriend and is a strong powerful woman, in my eyes she will always be daddy’s little girl. Girls and their dads have a special bond that as long as it is healthy is a pretty magical thing. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-this-annoys-dad-daughter-stuff/612084/132 "2012-02-09T15:37:37Z")
> [@Hello\_Again](#): > > Let me ask you a question: if the only contact a father has with his daughters, is informing them of the rules, and beating them when they disobey, would you say that is within the definition of the type of “involved” that is positive for the children? No, that’s within the definition of “fallacy of the excluded middle”. Crafter\_Man mentioned setting rules (with which you apparently disagree), and you jumped straight to “has no other contact besides setting rules, and beatings”. [QUOTE=Meyer6] How is providing condoms making a rule? My mom also bought Cheerios, but it wasn’t a ‘rule’ that I had to eat them for breakfast. [/QUOTE] Okay, my apologies. I thought when you said > [@](#): > > The rules applied equally to both my brother and me. that you were talking about rules. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-this-annoys-dad-daughter-stuff/612084/133 "2012-02-09T15:43:27Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > No, that’s within the definition of “fallacy of the excluded middle”. Crafter\_Man mentioned setting rules (with which you apparently disagree), and you jumped straight to “has no other contact besides setting rules, and beatings”. No, someone said that parents who set the most restrictive rules have the daughters who take the most sexuals risks. You answer was non-responsive, and stated that fathers that are “involved” have daughters who delay sexual activity. I asked what “involved” had to do with highly restrictive rules about social behavior. Again non-responsive, you said that parenting requires rules, a statement impossible to dispute that yet has nothing to do with my question. You continue to think I am making an attack on Crafter\_Man, which I am not. I have always, and continue, to note that setting highly restrictive rules does not make you an “involved” father on its own, nor does the absence of highly restrictive rules mean a father is not involved. In other words, they are not directly correlated. My original statement. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-this-annoys-dad-daughter-stuff/612084/134 "2012-02-09T16:24:49Z")
> [@sisu](#): > > Jeez as a dad it is meant as a joke, lighten up FFS. All the people who say “I’m not a dad but” well you are not a dad so you have no clue what it is like. Our daughters will always be our little girls for ever, even though I have one that is at uni, independent, has a great boyfriend and is a strong powerful woman, in my eyes she will always be daddy’s little girl. > > Girls and their dads have a special bond that as long as it is healthy is a pretty magical thing. It’s obviously a joke, but there must be a reason that you only hear dads say it about their daughter’s dates. I don’t think I’ve ever heard a dad say that he can’t wait to meet his son’s date while he just happens to be cleaning his gun. Do they think that girls are fragile creatures that must be protected, but that boys don’t need to be protected? Or that girls are all innocence and only want to hold hands on dates, while boys are animals who want more? I understand being protective of your children, and I think that some protectiveness is a good thing. But I understand the OP’s annoyance over treating girls like they need to be protected, but treating boys as real people who can handle themselves without pseudo threats of gun violence. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-this-annoys-dad-daughter-stuff/612084/135 "2012-02-09T16:31:08Z")
> [@Sam\_Lowry](#): > > It’s obviously a joke, but there must be a reason that you only hear dads say it about their daughter’s dates. I don’t think I’ve ever heard a dad say that he can’t wait to meet his son’s date while he just happens to be cleaning his gun. Do they think that girls are fragile creatures that must be protected, but that boys don’t need to be protected? Or that girls are all innocence and only want to hold hands on dates, while boys are animals who want more? > > I understand being protective of your children, and I think that some protectiveness is a good thing. But I understand the OP’s annoyance over treating girls like they need to be protected, but treating boys as real people who can handle themselves without pseudo threats of gun violence. Exactly. Also, I understand that some girls like the “protective daddy” treatment, and it makes them feel good and loved. If this is so, then I’m not saying that Dad shouldn’t do it. And in no case am I saying that Dad shouldn’t be protective of his children (sons _and_ daughters). But there are some daughters who don’t _want_ this treatment, find it intrusive and insulting, and would prefer to be treated as mature people (at least as mature as the boys are allowed to be treated) who can handle themselves on a date without having their date/boyfriend being given instructions like he’s her babysitter and responsible for her. In this case, I think Dad should lay off the “protective daddy” act in front of the boy, and give the _girl_ instructions (preferably before the boy arrives) about when to be home, where she can and can’t go, etc. Are the instructions always going to be followed? Sometimes not. But what makes you think they’ll be more likely to be followed if they’re given to the boy? ---
**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-this-annoys-dad-daughter-stuff/612084/136 "2012-02-09T17:10:30Z")
> [@Infovore](#): > > Are the instructions always going to be followed? Sometimes not. But what makes you think they’ll be more likely to be followed if they’re given to the boy? Boys are untrustworthy sex fiends, so need to be threatened. Girls need protection from them. So the instructions are given to the untrustworthy sex fiends because… 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-this-annoys-dad-daughter-stuff/612084/137 "2012-02-09T20:28:48Z")
> [@Hello\_Again](#): > > No, someone said that parents who set the most restrictive rules have the daughters who take the most sexuals risks. You answer was non-responsive, and stated that fathers that are “involved” have daughters who delay sexual activity. No, it is the fallacy of the excluded middle, I am afraid, probably because you committed that fallacy earlier. You said > [@](#): > > I don’t agree that rules and involvement are correlated. To which I responded - > [@](#): > > setting rules and expectations is part of being involved with your children’s lives. Then you responded with some silly thing about a father whose only contact was communicating rules, and beatings. > [@](#): > > I asked what “involved” had to do with highly restrictive rules about social behavior. Again non-responsive, you said that parenting requires rules, a statement impossible to dispute that yet has nothing to do with my question. Because you are automatically associating highly restrictive rules, with making rules at all. Which is, as I said, the fallacy of the excluded middle. Making rules and setting expectations _is_ part, as I said, of being an involved parent. It is perfectly possible to set rules without those rules being highly restrictive. Setting rules is not the be-all and end-all of involvement - no one, not **Crafter\_Man** and certainly not I - ever said anything of the kind. That’s something you threw out there, along with the mention of beatings. If you would like to amend what you said, and say that making reasonable rules and setting expectations is part of being an involved parent, fine, but I said that upthread already. So we never disagreed. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-this-annoys-dad-daughter-stuff/612084/138 "2012-02-09T22:24:16Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Okay, my apologies. I thought when you said [The rules applied equally to both my brother and me] that you were talking about rules. I meant the rules about having boy/girlfriends over to the house and having them in our bedrooms. That doesn’t seem unclear to me, but I apologize if it somehow was. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-this-annoys-dad-daughter-stuff/612084/139 "2012-02-10T01:02:16Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > That said, many do it not because they see the daughter as weak and helpless but because a parent is doing what a parent should be doing: looking out for the best interests of their children and letting others know that they’re doing so. And yet most of those guys would be proud if their son was getting ass at 14. ---
**Author:** ![sisu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@sisu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisu)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-this-annoys-dad-daughter-stuff/612084/140 "2012-02-10T01:16:13Z")
Hey I treat my sons as men and my daughters as women. The sexes are different but the chances they have are the same. My daughters are all strong confident women [like my wife]. Please I thought we had matured from the 70s feminist mantra “we are the same” to a more post modern version “We are the same but different” view. Sometimes as parents we do what is right and not what is popular. ---
**Author:** ![sisu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@sisu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisu)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-this-annoys-dad-daughter-stuff/612084/141 "2012-02-10T01:21:04Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > And yet most of those guys would be proud if their son was getting ass at 14. Not me, 14 is to young. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-this-annoys-dad-daughter-stuff/612084.md?page=6)