# Am I the only one who knows how to pull down a goddamned statue?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 9, 2003, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-knows-how-to-pull-down-a-goddamned-statue/167550 "2003-04-09T14:40:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-knows-how-to-pull-down-a-goddamned-statue/167550/21 "2003-04-09T16:17:27Z")

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They should replace it with a big ass statue of Jebediah Springfield.

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**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-knows-how-to-pull-down-a-goddamned-statue/167550/22 "2003-04-09T16:20:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Sofa King \*  
> You know what I’m thinking? I’m wondering what all you war hawks are gonna be saying in five years when the statue of Gen. Claire Lee Chennault is pulled down by Chinese Communists in Taipei, working outside of the U.N. and citing Bush’s precedent as justification.

Oh, come on. That’s completely different.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-knows-how-to-pull-down-a-goddamned-statue/167550/23 "2003-04-09T16:24:29Z")

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I can just picture Bart up there sawing off Saddam’s head and then Homer and Bart fleeing the scene.

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**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-knows-how-to-pull-down-a-goddamned-statue/167550/24 "2003-04-09T16:45:20Z")

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> \*Said **hawthorne** :\*Oh, come on. That’s completely different.

True. Taiwan isn’t recognized by the U.N., which will only make it easier to excuse.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-knows-how-to-pull-down-a-goddamned-statue/167550/25 "2003-04-09T16:52:27Z")

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I was a little surprised when the crowd left and came back with a tank. Do you think the Marines were going to let them pull the statue down themselves, and then they realized they couldn’t so they went and asked for help?

I was also a little nervous when I saw everybody swarming the tank, but I guess the soldiers knew what they were doing.

Very nice to see.

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-knows-how-to-pull-down-a-goddamned-statue/167550/26 "2003-04-09T16:57:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by kingpengvin \*  
> \*\*What did I think? Good for them! I doubt there is a single well informed person in this world who doubted this regieme was not evil and cruel to its people.
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> Now please explain what this has to do with weapons of mass destruction? If I remember correctly that was teh reason to start this war so soon. I don’t remember any resolutions put out there by the coilition calling for the freeing of the citizen’s of Iraq from Saddam’s government.
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> Maybe you believed the shift in goal but I’m not shifting my oppinion that there was something fundamentally wrong with unilateral action until they produce the weapons in question. \*\*

So, once WMD’s are found you will become a hawk?

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-knows-how-to-pull-down-a-goddamned-statue/167550/27 "2003-04-09T17:00:18Z")

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What, they got no C4??

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**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-knows-how-to-pull-down-a-goddamned-statue/167550/28 "2003-04-09T17:00:18Z")

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Slate works fast. They have an article comparing statue destructions techniques in various countries.

[http://slate.msn.com/id/2081309/](http://slate.msn.com/id/2081309/)

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**Author:** ![Tomcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Tomcat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tomcat)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-knows-how-to-pull-down-a-goddamned-statue/167550/29 "2003-04-09T17:29:05Z")

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All I know is that if I become a dictator, all of my statues will be booby-trapped. Wanna pull my statue down, bitch? You gotta EARN IT. One ton of C4 and carpet nails in the statue base as a final farewell…

-Tcat

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-knows-how-to-pull-down-a-goddamned-statue/167550/30 "2003-04-09T17:42:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Sofa King \*  
> \*\*You know what I’m thinking? I’m wondering what all you war hawks are gonna be saying in five years when the statue of Gen. Claire Lee Chennault is pulled down by Chinese Communists in Taipei, working outside of the U.N. and citing Bush’s precedent as justification. \*\*

Are you seriously proposing that the citizens of Taiwan would react with celebration and cheering to a Chinese Communist invasion?

How do you figure China will get the U.S. to sit on it’s hands and ignore it’s treaties with Taiwan?

Where will China get the amphibious equipment needed for an invasion?

Oh, and what about those nukes that Taiwan very likely has stashed?

Other than the above points, I find your scenerio extremely credible. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![slortar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-knows-how-to-pull-down-a-goddamned-statue/167550/31 "2003-04-09T17:46:12Z")

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Geez, how…stoneage. Couldn’t we have blown it up with a tank or crashed a flying saucer into it or something? 😃

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**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-knows-how-to-pull-down-a-goddamned-statue/167550/32 "2003-04-09T18:22:52Z")

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**Weirddave** , we’ll just have to [wait and see](http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/e03-748.jpg), won’t we?

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-knows-how-to-pull-down-a-goddamned-statue/167550/33 "2003-04-09T18:30:50Z")

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Well it did look like Saddam was motioning “Here, pull my finger.”

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-knows-how-to-pull-down-a-goddamned-statue/167550/34 "2003-04-09T18:39:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Sofa King \*  
> \*\ ***Weirddave** , we’ll just have to [wait and see](http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/e03-748.jpg), won’t we? \*\*

Oh, I totally agree that they want to, there’s no question about that.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-knows-how-to-pull-down-a-goddamned-statue/167550/35 "2003-04-09T18:48:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Weirddave \*  
> How do you figure China will get the U.S. to sit on it’s hands and ignore it’s treaties with Taiwan?

While I don’t believe for a second that we would let China invade Taiwan, I have one serious question:

How can we have treaties with a government we don’t recognize?

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**Author:** ![MSU\_1978](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@MSU\_1978](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MSU_1978)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-knows-how-to-pull-down-a-goddamned-statue/167550/36 "2003-04-09T18:51:19Z")

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Hey, what about the poor unemployed Iraqi painters and sculptors? What are they supposed to do without Saddam to glorify?

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**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-knows-how-to-pull-down-a-goddamned-statue/167550/37 "2003-04-09T18:57:13Z")

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> Oh, I totally agree that they want to, there’s no question about that.

Well, dammit, I’m just that much more worried that they’ll think they can get away with it, now that we’ve shown the world that nations can do whatever the fuck they want so long as nobody is willing to stop them.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-knows-how-to-pull-down-a-goddamned-statue/167550/38 "2003-04-09T19:06:51Z")

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Nations have always been able to get away with anything as long as:

Nobody was willing to stop them (See Germany, 1933-39)

They were strong enough to do what they wanted to do (See USA, Iraq 2003)

I think neither of these conditions is met in Taiwan.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-knows-how-to-pull-down-a-goddamned-statue/167550/39 "2003-04-09T19:10:31Z")

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The citizens of Coruscant just used rope (and maybe a little of the force) to yank down their statue.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-knows-how-to-pull-down-a-goddamned-statue/167550/40 "2003-04-09T19:17:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Max Carnage \*  
> \*\*The citizens of Coruscant just used rope (and maybe a little of the force) to yank down their statue. \*\*

Which leads me to envision the Iraqis singing the Ewok victory song from the original version of “Return of the Jedi.”

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