# Am I the only one who thinks Hillary Clinton has no chance to be POTUS? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 3, 2013, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262 "2013-08-03T18:21:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262/141 "2013-08-16T03:05:35Z")
> [@NetTrekker](#): > > The election would be in Nov. 2016…she wouldn’t be in the White House until the 2017 inauguration. At any rate, she still leads the polls of potential voters. Well, she could stop by for lunch. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262/142 "2013-08-16T03:23:46Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > That’s name recognition and is utterly meaningless today. I don’t think so in this case. If her polling was just name recognition she’d have a big lead but be under 50%. In the primary polls she’s around 60% and in the general election polls she’s over 50% except against Christie. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262/143 "2013-08-16T04:08:29Z")
> [@thetruth2015](#): > > . At some point, and correct me if I’m wrong, the Republicans are going to bring up the crap job she did as Secretary of State and honestly even if she pulls off winning the Dem. Non, Except that it’s only the GOP that thinks so, and unless they pull some serious election fraud and Jim Crow laws out of their asses (and god knows they’re trying on that second one) they have no chance of even influencing any national election. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262/144 "2013-08-16T04:34:25Z")
I don’t think she did a crap job as Secretary of State at all. Clinton’s problem, which no one can credibly deny, is that as David Geffen said, “They lie so easily”. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262/145 "2013-08-16T13:21:51Z")
Yes, Clinton would indeed have a problem with all the lies people so easily tell about her. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262/146 "2013-08-16T13:30:58Z")
And the ones she tells about herself. Seriously now, the Clintons have their good qualities, but do you honestly expect me or anyone else who has been paying attention to consider them honest people of upstanding moral character? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262/147 "2013-08-16T13:41:59Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I don’t think she did a crap job as Secretary of State at all. Clinton’s problem, which no one can credibly deny, is that as David Geffen said, “They lie so easily”. Yeah I thought she did a great job and her speech about LGBT human & civil rights, etc was awesome. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262/148 "2013-08-16T15:50:29Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > And the ones she tells about herself. Seriously now, the Clintons have their good qualities, but do you honestly expect me or anyone else who has been paying attention to consider them honest people of upstanding moral character? Do you honestly expect me or anyone else who has been paying attention to consider any career politician honest people of upstanding moral character? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262/149 "2013-08-16T16:13:08Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > And therein lies the problem. Rather than sticking to core beliefs primary voters are trying to pick who can beat the other guy rather than sticking to their principles on issues. This is how we end up with such lousy candidates. > > A President McCain or a President Romney would be little better than President Obama. And that attitude is why we will continue to have Democratic presidents because, even though they wish/think it otherwise, the staunch conservatives don’t represent the majority of America. So let me rephrase the question then. If you had your druthers, who would you have preferred to lose against Obama instead of Romney? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262/150 "2013-08-16T16:37:37Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > And that attitude is why we will continue to have Democratic presidents because, even though they wish/think it otherwise, the staunch conservatives don’t represent the majority of America. > > So let me rephrase the question then. If you had your druthers, who would you have preferred to lose against Obama instead of Romney? Unfortunately, Republicans own the term “Conservative” and everybody wants to be a conservative. It’s so hard to get people to take that scary blind leap of faith that voting for something other than what is “conservative” won’t directly link their soul to NAMBLA, as far as the Good Lord is concerned. How do you fight a word like “conservative?” Compare conservatives here with conservatives in other regions like the mideast and you might as well kiss Hitler on the mouth. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262/151 "2013-08-16T16:40:38Z")
> [@](#): > > And the ones she tells about herself. Seriously now, the Clintons have their good qualities, but do you honestly expect me or anyone else who has been paying attention to consider them honest people of upstanding moral character? Are we talking about some bizarre compound person named “The Clintons”, with two heads and four arms and legs? Or are we talking about the specific individual named Hillary Clinton? Hillary is not Bill. Hillary has never had any experience being Governor nor President. She has not, so far as anyone knows, ever had an affair with an intern, nor been impeached for it. And while we’re at it, Bill has never been a senator, nor Secretary of State. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262/152 "2013-09-20T02:57:22Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > She’d be 69, not a spring chicken, but younger then McCain or Reagan were. I’m thinking you may want to drop one of those two as an example. I think the Republicans were more heartsick that McCain was the best they had, than inspired by him. And, I’d think her age would kill her. Reagan was an anomaly-Carter paved the way for any Republican, and Ronnie was in tremendously good shape for his age. He had his political machinery all oiled, too. Now, a 69 year old is anathema. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262/153 "2013-09-20T03:21:05Z")
I dont’ see why her age should be an issue. Women live longer than men anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Goob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c77e96/32.png) [@Mr.Goob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Goob)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262/154 "2013-09-22T20:17:19Z")
Front page article in today’s Buffalo News speculating about Andrew Cuomo and a possible bid for 2016. Everything he has done and said to date is that he’s concentrating only on re-election in '14. Pretty much every expert, pol, or opinion of the article is that he’s in a holding pattern waiting to see what Hillary does. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262/155 "2013-09-24T23:32:13Z")
I don’t think Cuomo has the national name recognition yet. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262/156 "2013-09-25T00:20:36Z")
As governor of New York and son of Mario, I doubt that will be a problem once the campaign gets going. Plus he established a reputation as both a fiscal conservative and a social liberal, which might get some libertarians interested. For what that’s worth.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262/157 "2013-09-25T00:58:17Z")
How would a Clinton/Cuomo ticket look? (I assume it would be in that order.) ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262/158 "2013-09-25T01:56:35Z")
Great, in terms of experience, name recognition, and broad acceptability. I think she’d have to change her residence though, isn’t it unconstitutional for electors to vote for candidates from the same state for both President and Vice President? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262/159 "2013-09-25T02:00:29Z")
I didn’t even think of them being from the same state. (I still think of her as Arkansas even though I know she was originally from Illinois.) But _is_ that unconstitutional? I thought it was just good strategy to have them from separate areas for the sake of attracting more home votes, not something mandated by law. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262/160 "2013-09-25T02:03:24Z")
> **[Must the President and Vice-President Be from Different States?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/president-vp-different-states/)** > > History: Many people believe the U.S. constitution requires that presidential and vice-presidential candidates be from different states. Is that really the case? Ah, this clears it up. It would be constitutional for them to be on the same ticket and serve together, but New York’s electors would not be able to vote for both. Which could be important, given how many electors New York has. It also says that this happened in 2000, since Cheney was a legal resident of Texas at the time of his selection as VP on the Bush ticket. But they let him get away with just changing his residence. I presume Clinton would just do the same if she really wanted Cuomo. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-who-thinks-hillary-clinton-has-no-chance-to-be-potus/665262.md?page=9)