# Am I the only one who's not !OUTRAGED! over the death of Cecil the lion? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 29, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506 "2015-07-29T19:45:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![stillownedbysetters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@stillownedbysetters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stillownedbysetters)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/21 "2015-07-29T21:26:59Z")
What outrages me is that this dentist is probably going to get out of any blame whatsoever by shoving it all onto his hired guides. Zimbabwe isn’t going to want to kill the tourist trade of rich American Great White Hunter-wannabes, so the guides will become the scapegoats and all will go forward as it had before. Now that truly disgusts me. ---
**Author:** ![Buttercup\_Smith](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buttercup_smith/32/473_2.png) [@Buttercup\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buttercup_Smith)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/22 "2015-07-29T21:41:33Z")
yes, you are the only one! ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/23 "2015-07-29T21:51:03Z")
Well, I wasn’t outraged before this thread, because I hadn’t heard of the story. Now I am. So you’re still on your own, **davidm**. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/24 "2015-07-29T21:57:28Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > The level of outrage seems totally out of proportion to what happened. I don’t know. Could the world have better spared this lion, than this dentist? ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/25 "2015-07-29T22:13:00Z")
A good portion of the complaints are boilerplate anti-hunting sentiment, and I’m not interested in arguments that come from enjoying Bambi as a kid or subscribing to PETA. That’s clear in this thread. I don’t know what portion of guilt he holds, but poaching should absolutely be punished. His previous conviction stateside seems suspect. Of course the outrage is overblown. See: the [Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/greater-internet-fuckwad-theory). The dentist, and/or guides, deserve to be prosecuted under the proper law, and not subject to a trial-by-internet, but I know that that’s not going to happen, and it will continue until Twitter finds a new cause célèbre. I have a hard time trusting anything from the Mugabe-led Zimbabwe government. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/26 "2015-07-29T22:20:53Z")
> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#): > > He gives hunters a bad name. So it was shot through the heart? ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/27 "2015-07-29T22:21:22Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > And the thing is, his “mistake” was trusting the people who set up the hunt who seem to have screwed up. But in order to make that mistake he had to pay some people upwards of 50 grand and fly to Africa with the intention of killing a lion. Not a lot of people can sympathize with that sort of oopsie. Then there’s the part about not actually killing the lion with his first shot. Cecil lived in pain for forty hours until they tracked him down and finished him off. There’s also the fact that he has 24 cubs that will now most likely be killed by other males seeking to pass on their bloodlines, not his. The pictures of his “trophies” are sickening. That asshole and every one like him deserve what they get. The internet will move on soon enough. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/28 "2015-07-29T22:29:49Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > Then there’s the part about not actually killing the lion with his first shot. Cecil lived in pain for forty hours until they tracked him down and finished him off. There’s also the fact that he has 24 cubs that will now most likely be killed by other males seeking to pass on their bloodlines, not his. That’s just lions being lions, though. Other males were just as likely to attack the pride, or rather him, to eliminate him, then eat the cubs. > [@](#): > > The pictures of his “trophies” are sickening. That asshole and every one like him deserve what they get. I don’t find the pictures sickening exactly, but I don’t do sports hunting or trophies. ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/29 "2015-07-29T22:30:07Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > So it was shot through the heart? …and you’re to blame, dar… er dentist. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/30 "2015-07-29T22:43:05Z")
Inadequate man-child pays to pretend he killed a lion in “the wild”. He’s a cunt. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/31 "2015-07-29T22:51:46Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > I am not defending the man. I just think there are things more deserving of media attention than this one idiot hunter. What do you suggest? That people rank all the day’s events by importance and then shut about things that don’t appear in the top five? People are capable of thinking about more than one thing at a time. It’s a fallacy to imply that the existence of an issue with X importance should mean that anything with X-1 importance isn’t worth attention. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/32 "2015-07-29T22:55:28Z")
For those of us who appear to be living in an Internet cave: link? To whatever this is all about? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/33 "2015-07-29T23:01:49Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > For those of us who appear to be living in an Internet cave: link? To whatever this is all about? Thanks. If you plug “Cecil” into a Google News search, you’ll get approximately 1 grillion links about this event. I found out that way that not only was Cecil the lion killed by an American dentist who paid out about $55,000 to do so, he was also a research subject who had been outfitted with a GPS collar (Cecil, that is, not the dentist). Donations have been pouring into the research center at Oxford that had been studying him (and other lions, of course), and that’s a link I’m happy to provide right here: > **[WildCRU | Wildlife Conservation Research Unit](https://www.wildcru.org/)** > > The WildCRU is part of the Zoology Department at Oxford University. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/34 "2015-07-29T23:02:09Z")
Wait…nope. Don’t care about Cecil the lion. ---
**Author:** ![Cabin\_Fever\_1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cabin_fever_1/32/2908_2.png) [@Cabin\_Fever\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabin_Fever_1)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/35 "2015-07-29T23:06:48Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > For those of us who appear to be living in an Internet cave: link? To whatever this is all about? Thanks. Here you go: > **[American Hunter Killed Cecil, Beloved Lion Who Was Lured Out of His Sanctuary ...](https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/29/world/africa/american-hunter-is-accused-of-killing-cecil-a-beloved-lion-in-zimbabwe.html?_r=0)** > > Walter Palmer, a dentist from Minnesota, killed Cecil, a lion who was a favorite among visitors at a national park in Zimbabwe, after the animal was lured out of the sanctuary, the authorities say. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/36 "2015-07-29T23:11:25Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > The news has something to offer everyone. > > For folks with soft hearts for animals, we’ve got the Dentist Killed Cecil the Lion story. > > For folks who care about racism and police brutality, we have Sandra Bland et al. > > For folks who care about politics, we’ve got the on-going What Did Donald Trump Do Today? soap opera. > > For folks who care about feel good stories, we’ve whatever they’ve got planned for the last five minutes of the Nightly News. > > Personally, I don’t really care about Cecil the Lion. Maybe I would if it was a slow news cycle. But I’ve got other stuff on my radar. I don’t know if they are more important than the Cecil thing, though. They are just more interesting to me. And that’s all that matters. 🙂 Does the [fact](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3179047/Dentist-killed-Cecil-lion-accused-sexual-harassment-former-employee-practice-settled-court-127-500.html) that he’s also a sexual predator sway you at all? ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/37 "2015-07-29T23:17:52Z")
It’s not so much that this particular story isn’t bad. It’s that every single day the news brings yet another story to be outraged about, and I’m tired of being outraged. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/38 "2015-07-29T23:18:21Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > So you’re still on your own, **davidm**. Nah. In the Grand Scheme of the Cosmos, this is all meaningless. Tomorrow, every single living thing will be just one more day closer to inevitable death. 100 or 500 or 1000 years from now it will be utterly forgotten. However, **right now** , I’m going to have a beer. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/39 "2015-07-29T23:23:31Z")
I had exactly the same reaction as the OP. I’d be fine if he were extradited, but my level of interest does not remotely match how much of Cecil is showing up on Twitter and Facebook. Stop crying, Jimmy Kimmel! ---
**Author:** ![AnaMen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@AnaMen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnaMen)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/40 "2015-07-29T23:26:06Z")
The lion was very cute and did not need to die at that moment, but this dentist paid a huge sum of money for the pleasure of killing it. I don’t particularly want him shot or jailed, but the public hatred is warranted and the minimum punishment he deserves. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506.md?page=3)