# Am I the only one who's not !OUTRAGED! over the death of Cecil the lion? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 29, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506 "2015-07-29T19:45:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![AnaMen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@AnaMen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnaMen)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/41 "2015-07-29T23:27:10Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > I had exactly the same reaction as the OP. I’d be fine if he were extradited, but my level of interest does not remotely match how much of Cecil is showing up on Twitter and Facebook. Stop crying, Jimmy Kimmel! Yeah, that was pretty over the top and clearly a pander to the glurge-loving public. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/42 "2015-07-29T23:35:48Z")
See? Marco Rubio’s with me. > [@](#): > > Marco Rubio: ‘All this outrage over a dead lion, but where is all the outrage over the planned parenthood dead babies.’ Well, except I like Planned Parenthood. ---
**Author:** ![bb49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b38774/32.png) [@bb49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bb49)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/43 "2015-07-29T23:35:52Z")
I think a lot of this outrage is misdirected. Is this dentist/trophy hunter the real villain here? Or is it the government that permits trophy hunting of these animals? IMHO, our dentist is simply a pawn. And if anyone really screwed up, it was his guides. They are the ones that hunters hire for their knowledge and expertise of the animal being hunted. From the sounds of it, they are the guilty ones in this particular case. If you are opposed to trophy hunting, then the government is the guilty one. Trophy hunting, as well as hunting for game, happens all over this world. I used to hunt years ago, but gave it up for a variety of reasons. I’ve known guys, and girls, that traveled the world to hunt. If you didn’t know the type of hunters they were, you would have no outrage towards them. They were simply the average guy/girl next door. The strangest response to this incident came from PETA. Apparently they want the guy executed! WTF! I know PETA comes across a little strange at times, but really now, isn’t that response a little over the top? Anyways, I’m not outraged by this incident, mainly because I hear the word **OUTRAGE** just a little too often lately. There’s always somebody **OUTRAGED** about something! And one more thing. Somehow the anti-abortionists jumped into this story. WTF again! ---
**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/44 "2015-07-29T23:38:08Z")
Nope It’s barely a blip on my radar. This is worse, more personal and I like horses better than I like lions [http://www.cbsnews.com/news/man-finds-body-of-beloved-horse-tied-to-fence-and-legs-bound/](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/man-finds-body-of-beloved-horse-tied-to-fence-and-legs-bound/) ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/45 "2015-07-29T23:45:01Z")
> [@DummyGladHands](#): > > His “trophies” include a leopard, with bloody gutted photos to boot. He’s posing with rhino he shot in one. He had legal trouble over a bear he shot possibly illegally. > > His home must look like a charnel house. Well, that’s what sport hunters are like. It’s not an aspect of hunting I particularly approve of. If it’s in conjunction with either population control, food, or both I can live with it but… well, that’s what trophy hunting is, taking trophies. I grew up with a trophy-hunting family in the neighborhood - who felt very strongly they should eat what they shoot (the wife had a lot to say about “that goddamned polar bear we were eating for two years”). Oddly enough, they managed to engage in the “sport” without shooting endangered species or getting into legal trouble… but then, they were the sort who if they couldn’t do something legally they wouldn’t do it. This dentist, who can’t seem to stay out of legal trouble, is just a jerk. > [@billfish678](#): > > He just better hope folks don’t find out the lion was gay and planning to get married shortly. Actually - what most likely will happen now is that he will be replaced in the pride by another male and any immature cubs of his will be killed and eaten by the new male. This is also causing much outrage. Nevermind it’s what lions do and would have happened eventually anyway. > [@steronz](#): > > And the thing is, his “mistake” was trusting the people who set up the hunt who seem to have screwed up. But in order to make that mistake he had to pay some people upwards of 50 grand and fly to Africa with the intention of killing a lion. Not a lot of people can sympathize with that sort of oopsie. The thing is, that’s enough money to tempt people into doing what they shouldn’t. Even in a first world country, in Zimbabwe the temptation is no doubt greater. Which is why there should be an investigation - did or didn’t the dentist know? Did he look the other way? Why didn’t his guides go after a legal lion? ---
**Author:** ![sevenwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@sevenwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sevenwood)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/46 "2015-07-29T23:45:52Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Does the [fact](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3179047/Dentist-killed-Cecil-lion-accused-sexual-harassment-former-employee-practice-settled-court-127-500.html) that he’s also a sexual predator sway you at all? Settling a claim out of court doesn’t exactly make it a “fact” that he’s guilty (although it certainly doesn’t look good). More of a point is that he has already been convicted of illegally killing a black bear in Wisconsin (he had a permit to kill it within a certain area, killed it outside that area, then lied to the authorities about where he killed it). That demonstrates a certain disregard for the law in these situations. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/47 "2015-07-30T00:06:07Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > You can put scores of arrows into a human body without hitting anything vital. Like [Saint Sebastian!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Sebastian) I didn’t hear much of the story at first and misheard the hunter’s name as Ballmer. I was temporarily surprised that Steve Ballmer had shot an adult lion at the Windows 10 rollout. I always figured him more of a clubbing baby seals type. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/48 "2015-07-30T00:35:35Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Inadequate man-child pays to pretend he killed a lion in “the wild”. He’s a cunt. How was he pretending? He DID kill the lion in the wild. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/49 "2015-07-30T00:38:59Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > I didn’t hear much of the story at first and misheard the hunter’s name as Ballmer. I was temporarily surprised that Steve Ballmer had shot an adult lion at the Windows 10 rollout. [Man, that Microsoft-Apple rivalry is getting out of hand.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Lion) ---
**Author:** ![SecretaryofEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SecretaryofEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecretaryofEvil)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/50 "2015-07-30T00:49:23Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > Yes. > > Yes you are. > > The rest of us are readying our bows and arrows for a little righteous vengeance. If it’s acceptable to shoot someone to avenge a dead lion how do you know the dentist didn’t shoot Cecil to avenge all the baby lions Cecil had undoubtedly killed over his lifetime? Or maybe he was doing it to avenge all the cheetah cubs, impala fawns, and zebra foals that Cecil heartlessly killed. Cecil gets a pass on all the hyenas I’m sure he killed though. Hyenas are giant feminists weasels and are not to be trusted. The short answer is people tend to react emotionally when it comes to animals rather than rationally. Do you know how many vegetarian girls I know who own cats or dogs? There’s no reasoning with them. I would compare this story to people being outraged that ISIS is destroying historical sites in Syria and Iraq. Knocking down an old building is pretty tame compared to selling captives into sexual slavery or burning them alive. But depriving future generations the chance to see something particularly majestic is its own form of heinous. And that’s what lion poachers are doing. Still though, I wouldn’t support extraditing him to Zimbabwe. Everyone deserves a fair trial, and even convicted felons retain certain rights, and people are unlikely to get those things in the train wreck of a country that Mugabe has turned Zimbabwe into. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/51 "2015-07-30T00:57:04Z")
It’s not bothering me at all. Not him in particular anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/52 "2015-07-30T01:20:49Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Because murdering a human is entirely appropriate for the killing of a beast. . . . > [@Projammer](#): > > Who said anything about murder? You can put scores of arrows into a human body without hitting anything vital. . . . I was assuming internet bows and arrow, which, being virtual, cause less than mortal wounds. > [@bb49](#): > > . . . The strangest response to this incident came from PETA. Apparently they want the guy executed! WTF! I know PETA comes across a little strange at times, but really now, isn’t that response a little over the top? . . . Sounds like a typical PETA response to me. ---
**Author:** ![Brynda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Brynda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brynda)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/53 "2015-07-30T01:46:41Z")
Yeah, there are a lot of assholes, and this coward is only one, but he deserves every bit of the shit he is getting. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/54 "2015-07-30T01:52:23Z")
My real last name means “lion”, but no, I’m not exactly outraged. I wouldn’t spend five seconds near the furry monster without expecting to be mauled to death. That being said, this dentist is an asshat. Total pussy paying guides, 50 grand and then illegally luring it out of preserve? How would he not know about Cecil’s status around the area? They sell t-shirts of the animal! I say fine his ass big time and keep him out of Zimbabwe and hunting altogether. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/55 "2015-07-30T01:58:02Z")
> [@Brynda](#): > > Yeah, there are a lot of assholes, and this coward is only one, but he deserves every bit of the shit he is getting. So killing a lion makes you a “coward” now? Back in my day, it was kind of considered “bad ass”. Then again, in my day we used to kill them with our bare hands. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/56 "2015-07-30T02:02:37Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > So killing a lion makes you a “coward” now? Back in my day, it was kind of considered “bad ass”. > Then again, in my day we used to kill them with our bare hands. Back in my day, we used to crush them to death with our enormous testes. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/57 "2015-07-30T02:08:20Z")
> [@bb49](#): > > The strangest response to this incident came from PETA. Apparently they want the guy executed! WTF! I know PETA comes across a little strange at times, but really now, isn’t that response a little over the top? You do know PETA is opposed to killing mosquitoes right? They would prefer people die of disease rather than a mosquito holocaust occur. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/58 "2015-07-30T02:15:50Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > See? Marco Rubio’s with me. > > Well, except I like Planned Parenthood. For the record: [Link to an example article](http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/marco-rubio-on-cecil-the-lion-but-what-about-abortion-7786061) (from Miami New Times; there are many others out there). > [@](#): > > Florida senator and presidential hopeful Marco Rubio took to Twitter to today to wonder why people were so outraged over the death of a lion when, uh, abortion is legal — or something? > > [. . .] > > No, this is not a comment left by an anonymous person named “FreedomL0Ver1776” on a Fox News article. This is an original thought by a sitting U.S. Senator. What the controversial and illegal killing of a beloved lion over in Africa has to do with American women legally choosing to terminate a pregnancy during its early stages we are not entirely sure. > [@Marco Rubio on Twitter](#): > > ``` > Look at all this outrage over a dead lion, but where is all the outrage over the planned parenthood dead babies. > — Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) July 29, 2015 > > ``` ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/59 "2015-07-30T03:39:18Z")
> [@DinoR](#): > > …and you’re to blame, dar… er dentist. 😉 An angel’s smile is what he’d sell… [Now Jimmy Kimmel’s done put him through Hell](http://uproxx.com/tv/2015/07/jimmy-kimmel-cecil-the-lion/)… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/60 "2015-07-30T03:51:07Z")
> [@SecretaryofEvil](#): > > If it’s acceptable to shoot someone to avenge a dead lion how do you know the dentist didn’t shoot Cecil to avenge all the baby lions Cecil had undoubtedly killed over his lifetime? While I’m sure that many people on here think Cecil Adams first, I can’t :dubious: that the only famous Cecil from that region of the world I can think of is [this guy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Rhodes), who exemplified “the white man’s burden.”. Maybe the name unrelated, as Zimbabwe isn’t exactly fond of its colonial history, but I can’t think that the racist lion had it coming :). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506.md?page=4)