# Am I the only one who's not !OUTRAGED! over the death of Cecil the lion? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 29, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506 "2015-07-29T19:45:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Whatever4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@Whatever4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whatever4)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/61 "2015-07-30T05:17:50Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > **I don’t find the pictures sickening exactly** , but I don’t do sports hunting or trophies. There is a picture of Cecil, what was left of him, on Twitter. It sickened me and I’ve watched my ram lambs slaughtered right in front of me without any upset. ---
**Author:** ![bb49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b38774/32.png) [@bb49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bb49)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/62 "2015-07-30T05:51:33Z")
> [@grude](#): > > You do know PETA is opposed to killing mosquitoes right? They would prefer people die of disease rather than a mosquito holocaust occur. Yes, I support PETA fully on the protection and fair treatment of mosquitoes. And I do like it when the naked PETA girls stretch out on the city sidewalks. ---
**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/63 "2015-07-30T06:39:40Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > We are Large - we contain Multitudes. We can be outraged about other things and still work towards getting that asshole extradited to Zimbabwe, where he can rot in a prison cell for the rest of his life. Failing that, his career is effective over. > > Still have enough outrage left over for the murderous Cincinnati campus cop and the Koch brothers. Yes! I was once upset about three things at once. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/64 "2015-07-30T07:45:53Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Its the story of the day, it’ll get decreasing attention as the week goes on and by next week we’ll have moved on to something stupid Donald Trump said. Wait, how do you know Donald Trump’s going to say something stupid next week? You can’t know that! 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/65 "2015-07-30T07:47:10Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > How was he pretending? He DID kill the lion in the wild. For a certain definition of wild, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/66 "2015-07-30T09:12:30Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > How was he pretending? He DID kill the lion in the wild. Well, it was outdoors anyway. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/67 "2015-07-30T11:15:33Z")
The easiest way to get the internet to collectively hate you is to kill charismatic megafauna. That or punt cats into a river. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/68 "2015-07-30T11:27:06Z")
He shot it with his crossbow, then they tracked it for 40 hrs, before mercifully ending its life by shooting it. 40 hrs! How is that anything but a hunting fail? He’s a long time big game hunter, and this is okay with him? And why are the hunters defending him, not acknowledging THAT? You wouldn’t let someone treat your dog or horse, you were putting down, in this fashion. It’s unconscionable. Period. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/69 "2015-07-30T11:53:18Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > The news has something to offer everyone. > > For folks with soft hearts for animals, we’ve got the Dentist Killed Cecil the Lion story. > > For folks who care about racism and police brutality, we have Sandra Bland et al. > > For folks who care about politics, we’ve got the on-going What Did Donald Trump Do Today? soap opera. > > For folks who care about feel good stories, we’ve whatever they’ve got planned for the last five minutes of the Nightly News. > > Personally, I don’t really care about Cecil the Lion. Maybe I would if it was a slow news cycle. But I’ve got other stuff on my radar. I don’t know if they are more important than the Cecil thing, though. They are just more interesting to me. And that’s all that matters. 🙂 The killing of the lion is a terrible act. Interesting how the public shaming of the asshat who did it is the social media version of the same act? We see him getting doxxed and shamed and feel like we’re watching a nature film of pirahnas taking apart a capybara. One tweet I read about was the hashtag #catlivesmatter. I side with the outrage, but I don’t like the use of that phrase, or the intensity of the shaming. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/70 "2015-07-30T12:14:01Z")
Surprised no-one’s mentioned that the tens of thousands of dollars he paid for this hunt mostly goes to conservation work… Big game hunters are one of the largest funders of conservation work overall (so they keep having stuff to hunt, presumably), and in my opinion anyone who’s not donated that sort of money to help endangered animals should shut the fuck up about someone doing more to help them than you are. Yes, I find hunting for sport ugly. But, so fucking what? I don’t like it, so I don’t indulge in it. That’s the extent that it affects me. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/71 "2015-07-30T12:21:59Z")
Cecil is just the latest crisis du jour for people to get their knickers in a knot over. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/72 "2015-07-30T12:31:06Z")
The guy is a dickwad and now we all know the details. I’m guessing his clientele will take their business elsewhere. The internet works! ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/73 "2015-07-30T12:57:39Z")
Ah, I’m not overcome with outrage at this incident. I’m not saying that he isn’t a jerk. I’m not a hunter myself, but I can understand hunting for something you’re going to eat. Hunting just for a trophy, unless there’s some needed population control (yes, it can happen) going on strikes me as just stupid. What sort of punishments can courts give? Capital punishment, imprisonment, fines, corporal punishment. This guy’s getting some public shaming and professional shunning. For this lion incident, unless there’s a extradition request that’s granted, that’s about all that’s going to happen to him. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/74 "2015-07-30T13:01:34Z")
Kaiser Wilhelm liked to shoot animals-in one day he killed dozens of deer. Beaters would drive the animals toward his shooting spot, and he would blast away. Nobody thought anything of that, back then. As for Cecil-he was already past the life span for a lion in the wild. So in balance, no big effect. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/75 "2015-07-30T13:07:15Z")
I am outraged enough to post to this thread, but no more. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/76 "2015-07-30T13:15:07Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > Surprised no-one’s mentioned that the tens of thousands of dollars he paid for this hunt mostly goes to conservation work… Big game hunters are one of the largest funders of conservation work overall (so they keep having stuff to hunt, presumably), and in my opinion anyone who’s not donated that sort of money to help endangered animals should shut the fuck up about someone doing more to help them than you are. Why would someone mention that piece of propaganda from the trophy-fuckwad complex? I hope this asshole dies in a fire. ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/77 "2015-07-30T13:24:08Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > I am not defending the man. I just think there are things more deserving of media attention than this one idiot hunter. I’m with you. I’m all for hunting for the meat; to thin out herds as necessary, etc. I never understood hunting for sport. It’s just not… very sporting. Lions aren’t on the [endangered species](https://www.worldwildlife.org/species/directory?direction=desc&sort=extinction_status)list. At the end of the day, it’s unfortunate that it happened, but I think there are a lot more directions in which to focus that anger. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/78 "2015-07-30T14:01:11Z")
It would be more sporting if it were more evenly matched. Like maybe hand-to-hand, or hand-to-paw. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/79 "2015-07-30T14:04:58Z")
Trophy hunting is the lowest form of “hunting”, especially in these circumstances. This was a habituated animal from a game preserve that had little fear of humans; the guy may as well have been hunting cows. I’ve been on a few photo safaris in Africa and the animals are pretty much oblivious to humans in vehicles. The men who lured this animal to its death deserve their punishment as poachers. The “hunter” deserves our scorn for killing an animal just for the trophy. It’s blood lust, and it’s disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506/80 "2015-07-30T14:17:17Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > He shot it with his crossbow, then they tracked it for 40 hrs, before mercifully ending its life by shooting it. 40 hrs! > > How is that anything but a hunting fail? He’s a long time big game hunter, and this is okay with him? And why are the hunters defending him, not acknowledging THAT? > > You wouldn’t let someone treat your dog or horse, you were putting down, in this fashion. It’s unconscionable. Period. I’m a hunter who has criticized him for incompetence. But I don’t trophy hunt; it’s conceivable the standards are different among people who do. As they’re fuckwits. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-one-whos-not-outraged-over-the-death-of-cecil-the-lion/726506.md?page=5)