# Am I the only person on the Internet who believes in God?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-on-the-internet-who-believes-in-god/554944>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [September 24, 2010, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-on-the-internet-who-believes-in-god/554944 "2010-09-24T23:41:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-on-the-internet-who-believes-in-god/554944/81 "2010-09-25T18:41:13Z")

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> [@ITR\_champion](#):
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> In hte USA, everyone is free to make their opinions known, except for government employees, who may be punished for making it known that they are Christians.

Factually false. There are far more negative consequences for making it known you are an atheist.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-on-the-internet-who-believes-in-god/554944/82 "2010-09-25T19:59:49Z")

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> [@ITR\_champion](#):
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> In repsonse to the OP, no.
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> > [@Uzi](#):
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> > So, I wonder if the numbers on the internet actually do reflect society, if that society was actually free to make their opinions known.
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> In hte USA, everyone is free to make their opinions known, except for government employees, who may be punished for making it known that they are Christians.

Oh, garbage. On the contrary, there is constant Christian religious (and right wing) propaganda and the push to practice Christianity in government service. Employees are far more likely to get fired for not going to their bosses unofficially mandated prayer meeting or for complaining about the preacher being piped in over the PA system than for “making it known that they are Christians”.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-on-the-internet-who-believes-in-god/554944/83 "2010-09-25T20:10:46Z")

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> [@Uzi](#):
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> > [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> > …and internet porn.
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> There’s a negative correlation between porn and intelligence now? Damn!

_I’m getting stupider like a motherfuck!_

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-on-the-internet-who-believes-in-god/554944/84 "2010-09-25T20:42:12Z")

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> [@Uzi](#):
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> > [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> > …and internet porn.
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> There’s a negative correlation between porn and intelligence now? Damn!

All those fluids have to come from somewhere…and your brain is at the top of your body, one of the first things to dry out and shrivel up. Same reason men go bald.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-on-the-internet-who-believes-in-god/554944/85 "2010-09-25T20:45:20Z")

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Deal with it. At the 1998 Annual Convention of the League for Oppressing Christians, atheists worked out a deal with the Jews to take over control of the internet. The Muslims wanted it and the Buddhists backed them (they owed them a favor because the Muslims helped them take over the auto industry back in 1992). But we made a deal with the Hindus where we let them have control over technical support. The Satanist/Wiccan Coalition, as usual, got left out in the cold - they haven’t scored big since they took over popular music back in 1956. They ended up whining so much we threw them the young adult literature genre at the 1999 convention.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-on-the-internet-who-believes-in-god/554944/86 "2010-09-25T20:51:18Z")

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Christians been up so long, it looks like down to them.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-on-the-internet-who-believes-in-god/554944/87 "2010-09-25T21:04:21Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> All those fluids have to come from somewhere…and your brain is at the top of your body, one of the first things to dry out and shrivel up. Same reason men go bald.

If porn makes your disappear, then explain Ron Jeremy.

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-on-the-internet-who-believes-in-god/554944/88 "2010-09-25T21:08:39Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> If porn makes your disappear, then explain Ron Jeremy.

The difference between watching porn and doing porn.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-on-the-internet-who-believes-in-god/554944/89 "2010-09-25T21:17:23Z")

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So a Doper discussion of faith in the 21st Century degenerates into a sniggering Beavis/Butthead porn fest? For some reason, I’m rather proud of that.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-on-the-internet-who-believes-in-god/554944/90 "2010-09-25T22:43:51Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> > [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> > All those fluids have to come from somewhere…and your brain is at the top of your body, one of the first things to dry out and shrivel up. Same reason men go bald.
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> If porn makes your disappear, then explain Ron Jeremy.

Damn brain fart. That was supposed to be “If porn makes your hair disappear, then explain Ron Jeremy.”

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-on-the-internet-who-believes-in-god/554944/91 "2010-09-25T23:30:36Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> > [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> > If porn makes your disappear, then explain Ron Jeremy.
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> Damn brain fart. That was supposed to be “If porn makes your hair disappear, then explain Ron Jeremy.”

I filled in the blank with any number of things, and it still made sense.

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**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-on-the-internet-who-believes-in-god/554944/92 "2010-09-25T23:48:48Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Christians been up so long, it looks like down to them.

Ah, thank you John. You’re now famous in my eyes for fifteen minutes. I’ll be using that one for years, I tell ya! Well played.

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**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-on-the-internet-who-believes-in-god/554944/93 "2010-09-26T01:01:42Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> > [@BigT](#):
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> > Heck, I thought it was pretty well known around here that I am a Christian.
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> I thought you were an atheist. I mean, it doesn’t help that I’m not really great with names and I tend to forget which conversations I’ve had with which posters after a certain amount of time but there you go. Plus you don’t tend to participate in religious threads as much as the others if my memory serves correctly.

It’s worth noting that many of the posters around here who are quite knowledgeable about religion who post in the religious threads are atheist, or nearly so. **Diogenes the Cynic** is a good example; I’m always impressed with what he knows about the history of the New Testament and early Christianity, but I do believe that he’s an atheist.

Likewise, I often weigh in on those threads on the side of theism and Christianity, though you’d be hard pressed to call me a Christian\* and I’m only a theist most of the time.

\*I believe in the man, I’m intrigued by his ethics system, but I don’t believe in the Resurrection, either in its literal occurrence or its salvific power.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-on-the-internet-who-believes-in-god/554944/94 "2010-09-26T01:06:17Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> This isn’t Pit worthy, but not Mundane. Seems like everytime I mention God in a post (in general, not just SDMB) people make comments with the underlying attitude,“Ain’t that precious, you believe in some Invisible Guy in the Sky.”

Don’t mention him.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-on-the-internet-who-believes-in-god/554944/95 "2010-09-26T01:39:11Z")

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I am a believer.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-on-the-internet-who-believes-in-god/554944/96 "2010-09-26T01:39:35Z")

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> [@jasonh300](#):
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> Atheists also tend to be very vocal about their atheism, so they stand out. Whereas the majority of Christians or Jews, or just non-religious believers rarely talk about their religious views.

Yes, it is _very disturbing_ that while the faithful keep their views to themselves, rabid atheists have begun proselytizing like mad. This trend has been noticed by none other than [the Jehovah’s Witnesses](http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/09/the_jehovahs_witnesses_redefin.php), who in a recent publication said:

(please turn your irony meters to their lowest setting. Thank you.)

_“A new group of atheists has arisen in society. Called the new atheists, they are not content to keep their views to themselves.”_

> [@zoid](#):
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> **kanicbird** and **Der Trihs** have both made valid points in the same thread, on the first page, and seem on the surface to be in agreement on this point.

It’s either the Harmonic Convergence or End Times.

> [@Paul in Qatar](#):
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> I am a believer.

Uh-oh. Does that mean [you couldn’t leave her if you tried](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=578449)?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-on-the-internet-who-believes-in-god/554944/97 "2010-09-26T02:18:35Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> (please turn your irony meters to their lowest setting. Thank you.)

_head asplodes_

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-on-the-internet-who-believes-in-god/554944/98 "2010-09-26T02:39:29Z")

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> [@appleciders](#):
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> …and I’m only a theist most of the time…

Schrodinger’s God.

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**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-on-the-internet-who-believes-in-god/554944/99 "2010-09-26T02:50:57Z")

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…let’s go to our reporter from inside a madrassa in the city of America, Afghanistan.

> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Or have their car trashed or lose their job or be disowned by their family or any number of other unpleasant consequences. Atheists are one of the most hated and distrusted groups in America.

We have to admire his courage, putting his life in mortal risk every day.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-the-only-person-on-the-internet-who-believes-in-god/554944/100 "2010-09-26T02:57:57Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> > [@appleciders](#):
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> > …and I’m only a theist most of the time…
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> Schrodinger’s God.

Win.

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