# Am I wrong to be in love with Jennifer Lawrence?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 8, 2014, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-wrong-to-be-in-love-with-jennifer-lawrence/690361 "2014-06-08T23:05:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2014, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-wrong-to-be-in-love-with-jennifer-lawrence/690361/21 "2014-06-09T05:24:02Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> There are hundreds of Hollywood starlets who look just as good, and I’ve found plenty of Russian/Ukrainian porn actresses who look even better.

That’s the line that will win her heart, right there.  
But no, she seems extremely likable. It’s possible that she’s just, you know, _acting_, only she’s putting on a more novel schtick than most starlets. But I doubt it. And damn can she act. She was amazing in _Silver Linings Playbook_ (and according to my parents, who work in addiction and mental health, she portrays an unusually believable crazy girl).

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**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2014, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-wrong-to-be-in-love-with-jennifer-lawrence/690361/22 "2014-06-09T08:35:59Z")

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Are you talking about the fat chick from Hunger Games? If so, then yes, you are absolutely, positively wrong to be in love with her.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2014, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-wrong-to-be-in-love-with-jennifer-lawrence/690361/23 "2014-06-09T09:17:04Z")

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Are you they guy who wanted to buy her a steak dinner a few years back?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2014, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-wrong-to-be-in-love-with-jennifer-lawrence/690361/24 "2014-06-09T09:28:48Z")

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If you like her acting, sure. If you like her personality, then I think you are in love with an illusion, but to each their own. I don’t know what it is, but something about her personality doesn’t fit with the many other stars that I think really come off as personable.

I will point out that the vast majority of her “adorableness” is actually childishness. She doesn’t act like an adult that can take care of herself. If you’ve ever seen that HIMYM episode with the bubbly news anchor who steals Robin’s spotlight–that’s how she comes off to me.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2014, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-wrong-to-be-in-love-with-jennifer-lawrence/690361/25 "2014-06-09T12:03:22Z")

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> [@Martian Bigfoot](#):
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> And these are bad things how?

Why can’t a guy just state something and provide a link without having someone assume the worst?

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2014, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-wrong-to-be-in-love-with-jennifer-lawrence/690361/26 "2014-06-09T12:29:39Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Why can’t a guy just state something and provide a link without having someone assume the worst?

Well, then, I apologize. But your linked article makes it sound like her personality is a kind of sham, which apparently reflects poorly on both Ms. Lawrence herself and our society in general:

[QUOTE=Happy’s linked article]  
You probably know someone playing a Cool Girl in real life, and you probably resent her — unless you’re a straight dude, in which case you probably think she’s great. But Lawrence performs Cool Girlness with such skill, such seamlessness, that it doesn’t seem like a performance at all. I’m not suggesting that Lawrence is intentionally inauthentic, scheming, or manipulative: Rather, like all the Cool Girls you know, she’s subconsciously figured out what makes people like her, and she’s using it. But is this persona truly “cool,” or is it a reflection of society’s unreasonable and contradictory expectations of women?  
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To which I want to say: Jeez, there’s really just no pleasing some people. Should there not be a place in this world for someone who is talented and beautiful, even if they also happen to also be funny, charming, popular and likeable?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2014, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-wrong-to-be-in-love-with-jennifer-lawrence/690361/27 "2014-06-09T12:56:34Z")

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Give it up. She’s out of your league. 😉

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2014, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-wrong-to-be-in-love-with-jennifer-lawrence/690361/28 "2014-06-09T12:57:49Z")

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> [@Martian Bigfoot](#):
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> To which I want to say: Jeez, there’s really just no pleasing some people. Should there not be a place in this world for someone who is talented and beautiful, even if they also happen to also be funny, charming, popular and likeable?

Ha, seriously. That snippet boils down to “She plays up her strengths” which is the exact same advice anyone would get if they were asking “How can I make friends and get people to like me?”. Here it’s “inauthentic” even if “subconscious”.

She seems amusing and fun though maybe it’d get old after a bit. All the “PR managed” stuff is the usual “You can’t prove I’m wrong” schlok anyway. “It’s too bad you don’t realize you only think that because of the alien mind rays…” Who knows how much is “managed”, I’m just responding to what I see.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2014, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-wrong-to-be-in-love-with-jennifer-lawrence/690361/29 "2014-06-09T13:00:52Z")

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_Everybody’s_ acting, all the time. Actors are just better at it.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2014, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-wrong-to-be-in-love-with-jennifer-lawrence/690361/30 "2014-06-09T13:16:34Z")

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I assume, despite the name, that the OP is a woman. It seems that every day in the mainstream media, in the women’s section of the paper, there is some article about how awesome, yet down to earth, Jennifer Lawrence is.

I think I thought she was until it became so ubiquitous that I started to lose interest.

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2014, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-wrong-to-be-in-love-with-jennifer-lawrence/690361/31 "2014-06-09T14:06:15Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> … I wouldn’t say she’s any more or less PR managed than any other movie star, but she’s every movie studio PR department’s wet dream.

she’s also exactly the kind of persona that a PR department would never approve if they had a choice before the fact. after the fact, i don’t think anyone can honestly blame her for giving more of what her fans want.

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2014, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-wrong-to-be-in-love-with-jennifer-lawrence/690361/32 "2014-06-09T14:20:09Z")

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She’s fat? Can’t take care of herself because she’s not an adult? Bwahahahahaha to the sour grapes. And, for the record, she’s my girl crush too, so I’m okay with her so-called “fake” persona. 😛

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2014, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-wrong-to-be-in-love-with-jennifer-lawrence/690361/33 "2014-06-09T14:37:50Z")

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I’d go gay for her. But she’s gotta be dressed as Mystique. 😛

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2014, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-wrong-to-be-in-love-with-jennifer-lawrence/690361/34 "2014-06-09T15:16:15Z")

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> [@Palooka](#):
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> I think it’s wrong to be in love with her because you don’t think her personality is PR-managed.

Her PR firm is either filled with alien super geniuses or meth addicts if they “managed” her Dorito-crumb-dress, bad driving, butt-plug owning, vomiting in Madonna’s stairwell persona.

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2014, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-wrong-to-be-in-love-with-jennifer-lawrence/690361/35 "2014-06-09T15:25:04Z")

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I don’t get what people mean when they say it’s “just” her persona. And that doesn’t just go for her, but any nice, cool celebrity. Do they think she’s some kind of sociopathic Machiavellian supergenius that’s secretly an evil closet bitch and acts cool only when someone might be watching?

Sure, there’s image crafting going on, but everyone does a certain degree of public image crafting. I’m sure if you got to know her she’d have flaws and issues and offputting things about her like everyone else. I’m sure the real her isn’t exactly her interview persona. Yes, the media overblows her image to a mythical degree because that’s what the media does. But it’s not like you can’t be a complete insufferable jerk and still get work in Hollywood. If anything, the fact that she cares enough to even make the effort to be likable and be a good role model says something good about her.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2014, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-wrong-to-be-in-love-with-jennifer-lawrence/690361/36 "2014-06-09T15:42:55Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> Her PR firm is either filled with alien super geniuses or meth addicts if they “managed” her Dorito-crumb-dress, bad driving, butt-plug owning, vomiting in Madonna’s stairwell persona.

Or both!

She owns a butt plug? I mean … how is it known that she owns a butt plug? That is the sort of secret that is relatively easy to keep, I imagine. Did she issue a press release? “Jennifer Lawrence: Now With Butt Plug!”

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2014, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-wrong-to-be-in-love-with-jennifer-lawrence/690361/37 "2014-06-09T16:03:32Z")

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She doesn’t own “a” butt plug. She owns a whole box of butt plugs.

Edited to add- See post #5

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-wrong-to-be-in-love-with-jennifer-lawrence/690361/38 "2014-06-09T16:08:32Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> She doesn’t own “a” butt plug. She owns a whole box of butt plugs.

Well I don’t know that there is a large difference between owning one and owning a lot in terms of “embarrassing things people know about you” but I googled the “Jennifer Lawrence” and I know she spilled those beans on a TV talk show herself, which is what I was really curious about: how did it become public knowledge?"

If this was a MILDLY salacious thing about herself that she was willing to talk about in public … well, those of you who are in love with her public persona might be in for a mighty wild ride if you ever manage to hook up with her.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2014, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-wrong-to-be-in-love-with-jennifer-lawrence/690361/39 "2014-06-09T16:10:32Z")

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> [@Jragon](#):
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> I’m sure if you got to know her she’d have flaws and issues and offputting things about her like everyone else.

[Go to 0:45](http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/40427c7af8/between-two-ferns-oscar-buzz-edition-part-1)

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2014, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/am-i-wrong-to-be-in-love-with-jennifer-lawrence/690361/40 "2014-06-09T16:23:13Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> I know she spilled those beans on a TV talk show herself, which is what I was really curious about: how did it become public knowledge?"

I think that was exactly how it became public knowledge, her presenting it as an amusing anecdote on Conan. Maybe a PR firm did decide that she should tell that story, if so they are hilarious geniuses, because what PR firm would say “go with the butt-plug story on Conan, it’ll be great”?

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