# Amanda Bynes - such a sad case fo a talented lady.

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 26, 2013, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amanda-bynes-such-a-sad-case-fo-a-talented-lady/664606 "2013-07-26T17:46:01Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amanda-bynes-such-a-sad-case-fo-a-talented-lady/664606/1 "2013-07-26T17:46:01Z")

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It looks like Amanda has finally bottomed out. She got picked up a few days ago after setting a fire on someones driveway. Had gas splashed on herself and her dog. The last couple of years have been a steady decline. It’s different from Lindsay Lohan because Amanda seems to have genuine psych issues. It’s speculated in the news that it’s schizophrenia. A horrible condition that often strikes down young adults.

Hopefully they can get her on meds and turn things around like Britney Spears. A lot depends on the parents winning the court battle for conservatorship. It won’t be easy because Amanda has plenty of money to hire blood sucking lawyers. They could successfully block an intervention. Basically condemning her to more years of untreated illness.

> **[Amanda Bynes Psychiatric Hold Extended at Parents' Request - E! Online](https://www.eonline.com/news/442923/amanda-bynes-psychiatric-hold-extended-two-weeks-at-parents-request)**
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> Rick and Lynne Bynes are due in court Friday morning to petition for a temporary conservatorship that would place them in charge of their daughter's legal and personal affairs

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> A judge on Thursday granted the family’s request to have the 27-year-old starlet’s temporary psychiatric hold extended for up to two weeks, E! News confirms.
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> Bynes, who was originally supposed to be released today after being placed on a 72-hour-hold Monday, was represented by a court-appointed attorney.

> **[Amanda Bynes stripped off her pants to chase gasoline-soaked dog after...](https://www.nydailynews.com/2013/07/24/amanda-bynes-stripped-off-her-pants-to-chase-gasoline-soaked-dog-after-starting-fire-in-strangers-driveway-says-witness/)**
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> Amanda Bynes stripped her pants off in a burning driveway and threatened to call 911 on the first passerby to rush to her aid, the Good Samaritan told the Daily News Wednesday. Andrew Liverpool, 24…

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> Andrew Liverpool, 24, said he was driving home in Thousand Oaks, Calif., Monday night when he noticed a sizable fire in a residential driveway and saw a woman lying next to the blaze, trying to snuff flames on her left pant leg.
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> “I pulled over and ran over and she was pantsless by this time, running after her dog,” he recalled to the News. “I asked her, ‘Where’s your garden hose?’ I thought it was her house at first.”
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> He said he didn’t immediately recognize Bynes but was struck by her “large blond wig” and “discombobulated” demeanor.
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> He said she was alone in the driveway with a burning gas canister and a large super soaker water gun.
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> He asked if she was hurt, and she said, “No,” he recalled.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amanda-bynes-such-a-sad-case-fo-a-talented-lady/664606/2 "2013-07-26T17:49:19Z")

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Lindsey Lohan’s psychological problems are illegitimate?

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amanda-bynes-such-a-sad-case-fo-a-talented-lady/664606/3 "2013-07-26T17:59:20Z")

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Lohan is primarily an addict. Shes never been placed on a involuntary psych hold.

Schizophrenia is considered one of the more severe mental illnesses. I’ve been reading some. The newer meds are a big improvement and have less side effects. But getting the patient to take them can be a problem.

> **[Schizophrenia](https://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/default.htm)**
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> Schizophrenia affects an estimated 2.2 million Americans each year. Here you'll find in-depth schizophrenia information including drugs and other treatments, as well as its causes and symptoms.

The paparazzi probably aren’t helping with the paranoia.

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> Schizophrenia symptoms include distorted thoughts and hallucinations. Usually starting in young adulthood, schizophrenia can also cause the sufferer to feel frightened and paranoid.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amanda-bynes-such-a-sad-case-fo-a-talented-lady/664606/4 "2013-07-26T18:20:16Z")

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She was a talented teenager, but has she displayed any noticeable talent as an adult?

ETA: I also think she has some serious mental problem, different from Lohan who is just a spoiled brat.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amanda-bynes-such-a-sad-case-fo-a-talented-lady/664606/5 "2013-07-26T18:24:30Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> She was a talented teenager, but has she displayed any noticeable talent as an adult?

My wife reminded me that she was in Easy A (I never finished that movie, wasn’t enjoying it) but I can’t think of anything she’s done since she was on the Amanda Bynes show. I was wondering why all the media interest in someone who hasn’t done anything of note in years.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amanda-bynes-such-a-sad-case-fo-a-talented-lady/664606/6 "2013-07-26T18:27:47Z")

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It sounds like the judge is taking a sensible approach. Hopefully the lawyer won’t screw things up by using a trick to get her out of the hospital. They need to observe her awhile now that shes detoxed.

> **[Amanda Bynes: LET ME OUT!!!](https://www.tmz.com/2013/07/26/amanda-bynes-psychiatric-hold/)**
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> Amanda Bynes will not go down without a fight ... because her lawyer just filed legal docs asking for an emergency hearing to let her loose from the psych ward ... TMZ has learned.

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> Meanwhile Amanda’s parents showed up in court this morning in their attempt to win a temporary conservatorship, but they got shut down – at least temporarily.
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> The judge said there was no need to rush things because Amanda is already being held for 2 weeks.
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> The judge wants certain things to happen before he rules on a conservatorship:
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> – He wants a one-on-one with Amanda.
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> – He wants the lawyer he appointed to rep Amanda to interview her and then come up with a recommendation.
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> – He wants to hear from Amanda’s doctors.
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> – He wants to see the police file on “the incident” – sources have told us the incident in question is the driveway fire.
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> A hearing for the conservatorship was set for August 9.

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**Author:** ![JKilez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e5b9ba/32.png) [@JKilez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKilez)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amanda-bynes-such-a-sad-case-fo-a-talented-lady/664606/7 "2013-07-26T18:32:50Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> She was a talented teenager, but has she displayed any noticeable talent as an adult?

I googled her image and still did not recognize who she was. It looks like she is big with the Nickelodeon crowd. Has she done anything of note outside of kid-friendly family fare?

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amanda-bynes-such-a-sad-case-fo-a-talented-lady/664606/8 "2013-07-26T18:34:13Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> My wife reminded me that she was in Easy A (I never finished that movie, wasn’t enjoying it) but I can’t think of anything she’s done since she was on the Amanda Bynes show. I was wondering why all the media interest in someone who hasn’t done anything of note in years.

She was also on a TV series. Don’t recall the name of the show, I saw one episode but didn’t know she was in it because I didn’t really know who she was until my kids explained it to me.

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amanda-bynes-such-a-sad-case-fo-a-talented-lady/664606/9 "2013-07-26T18:41:44Z")

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She hasn’t done much since her comedy series _What I Liked About You_ with Jennie Garth ended in 2006. It ran for 4 seasons.

She never really had a movie career. Just tv.

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amanda-bynes-such-a-sad-case-fo-a-talented-lady/664606/10 "2013-07-26T18:45:35Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> My wife reminded me that she was in Easy A (I never finished that movie, wasn’t enjoying it) but I can’t think of anything she’s done since she was on the Amanda Bynes show. I was wondering why all the media interest in someone who hasn’t done anything of note in years.

I’ve never even seen _Easy A_, but whenever I see some headline about Amanda Bynes getting into trouble again it takes me a moment to realize that she’s not the red-haired actress who starred in _The Help_. That was of course Emma Stone, who also starred in _Easy A_. I must have gotten their names mixed up at some point.

I don’t think I’ve actually seen Amanda Bynes in anything since I caught part of the _She’s the Man_ (2006) on cable. I can’t say I was impressed. I hope she’ll be able to get effective treatment for her mental health or substance abuse problems, but if she never does another movie then I don’t think it will be a great loss to the world of cinema.

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amanda-bynes-such-a-sad-case-fo-a-talented-lady/664606/11 "2013-07-26T19:01:13Z")

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Does it matter if she has talent or if she would have had a big movie career? It’s a sad case nonetheless.

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amanda-bynes-such-a-sad-case-fo-a-talented-lady/664606/12 "2013-07-26T19:07:08Z")

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> Does it matter if she has talent or if she would have had a big movie career?

Sure. If she wasn’t a celebrity, no one would hear about this story except for local news covering a driveway fire and it wouldn’t be in Cafe Society. The only reason anyone gives a moment’s thought to it is because she’s Amanda Bynes.

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amanda-bynes-such-a-sad-case-fo-a-talented-lady/664606/13 "2013-07-26T19:08:48Z")

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She was Tracy Turnblad’s friend in _Hairspray_. Not much of a singing voice, but fit the part of clueless, but loyal sidekick.

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amanda-bynes-such-a-sad-case-fo-a-talented-lady/664606/14 "2013-07-26T19:15:50Z")

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There was a poster on here who posted some time last year about his daughter’s quick and extreme “demise” into mental disease in her 20s. It sounded awful and scary. We learned in that thread that it’s not uncommon for [bipolar disorder? schizophrenea?] to present itself like that in young women.

If Bynes isn’t an addict and not simply a mean girl (I only know of her from her [mean tweets](http://www.buzzfeed.com/whitneyjefferson/people-amanda-bynes-has-called-ugly) that Buzzfeed posts!) then she might very well have…quick onset mental problems.

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amanda-bynes-such-a-sad-case-fo-a-talented-lady/664606/15 "2013-07-26T19:19:40Z")

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As a child she had her own show on Nickelodeon and co-starred on Nick’s “ **All That** ”.

My kids used to watch both when they were little. I remember being impressed with her skills since she was obviously one of the youngest on the **All That** show. I was particularly impressed with her impression of Ross Perot.

I called her the “Little Ross Perot” girl around my daughters.

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amanda-bynes-such-a-sad-case-fo-a-talented-lady/664606/16 "2013-07-26T19:29:52Z")

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It’s never been reported what Britney Spear suffers from. But the judge recently extended her conservatorship. It seems to be working. She’s really turned thing around in the past three years. She’s lucky that her parents are helping her. She had really gone off the deep end for awhile.

Maybe Amanda can recover too. At least function and take care of herself.

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amanda-bynes-such-a-sad-case-fo-a-talented-lady/664606/17 "2013-07-26T19:38:12Z")

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TriPolar:

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> She was a talented teenager, but has she displayed any noticeable talent as an adult?

I thought she did a nice job in “Sydney White.” Not, perhaps, the most challenging of movie roles, but she didn’t mess it up.

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amanda-bynes-such-a-sad-case-fo-a-talented-lady/664606/18 "2013-07-26T20:08:56Z")

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> [@cmkeller](#):
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> I thought she did a nice job in “[Sydney White](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0815244/).” Not, perhaps, the most challenging of movie roles, but she didn’t mess it up.

(link added by me)

Not a exactly a rave review on your part. It’s not the kind of movie I would have seen. Looks like she was still playing a teenager in that.

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amanda-bynes-such-a-sad-case-fo-a-talented-lady/664606/19 "2013-07-26T20:18:06Z")

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Colonel Gentleman has added her to his list of “Hollywood starlets who need a smack in the mouth”.

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amanda-bynes-such-a-sad-case-fo-a-talented-lady/664606/20 "2013-07-26T20:22:39Z")

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Details of todays hearing.

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> Amanda also has profound body image issues, calls family members including her young niece “ugly” and may be submitting herself to dangerous cosmetic procedures, the parents claim.
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> According to the filing, Amanda has written $63,000 in checks since May 3 and made bank withdrawals of $100,000 on June 4 and July 2 to fund her drug dependency and erratic behavior.
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> “We have received large doctor bills for purported services to Amanda from doctors that we do not know for unspecified services,” they say in the filing. “We are informed and believe that a substantial amount of this money is being used to pay for marijuana.”
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> The parents claim Amanda had amassed $4 million in savings but has spent some $1.2 million in a “very short amount of time.”
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> They are asking the court to give Lynn temporary control of Amanda’s personal and financial matters, highlighting accounts that Amanda lit her pants on fire during the Monday night fire and injured her pet Pomeranian.
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> Read more: [Amanda Bynes poses ‘a substantial risk to herself and others,’ is ‘extremely paranoid’ and has squandered money in ‘very short amount of time,’ parents say in filing for temporary conservatorship – New York Daily News](http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/amanda-bynes-speak-judge-conservatorship-granted-mom-article-1.1409891#ixzz2aBXH7Emr)

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