# Amazing Race 10.18.09: "I'm Like Ricky Bobby" Probable Football Delays **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 18, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248 "2009-10-18T21:11:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248/41 "2009-10-19T14:15:32Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > I thnk you’ve got your Ken-N-Barbies confused. The angry guy is one half of the virgin couple. The guy with the stupid hair and is actually a pretty good racer so far and their edit hasn’t shown them to be either particularly nice or particularly awful to the other racers.. Ok-but which is which? Pathologically angry-dating-virgin Ken-N-Barbie guy is Shane (I agree–no brain-dead spellings!)? Dorky “Dances-With-Water-Dragons” Ken-N-Barbie is Canaan? Or is it the other-way-round? ---
**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248/42 "2009-10-19T14:19:01Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Oh–and to Mister “Miss America”–being a nice guy is fine, but you overdid it this week. This is the Amazing Race, not The Amazing Montessori School. > [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I disagree. As long as you don’t come in last, you’re okay. And when the final leg comes, you’re better off if weak teams you’ve helped have eliminated strong teams. If you give someone enough help to beat you, that’s a problem. Up to that point, I think it’s the right thing to do, strategically and otherwise. Right. I’d say Brian’s actions are correct, even if his reasoning is not. If you’re comfortably out front, the risk involved in helping someone behind you (or even roughly tied with you) is slight. The potential benefit is that the same team will be predisposed to helping you out sometime in the future. It’s human nature, after all, to want to help other people who’ve been “nice” to you. Now, there’s no _guarantee_ the team you helped will be able or willing to help you out in the future, and there’s always the possiblity that you might wind up in last place, beaten by the team you helped. But I still think it’s a good bet to help out other teams unless you have a reason _not_ to. Valid reasons _not_ to help include, but are not limited to: a) not actually “helping” (Sam and Dan, I’m looking at you), b) not helping a tam you perceive as being a long-term threat, or c) (and most importantly) being in second-to-last place. ---
**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248/43 "2009-10-19T14:20:48Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Ok-but which is which? > > Pathologically angry-dating-virgin Ken-N-Barbie guy is Shane (I agree–no brain-dead spellings!)? > > Dorky “Dances-With-Water-Dragons” Ken-N-Barbie is Canaan? > > Or is it the other-way-round? Pathologically angry-dating-virgin Ken-N-Barbie guy is Canaan. Dorky “Dances-With-Water-Dragons” Ken-N-Barbie is _also_ Canaan. Scheyenne is the guy with the aerodynamic hair. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248/44 "2009-10-19T14:22:05Z")
I agree with everything you and Robot Arm say, but Brian wasn’t comfortably out in front enough to help as many people as they did–my complaint isn’t that he helped someone, it’s that he helped almost everyone. IMO, that’s overdoing it. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248/45 "2009-10-19T14:32:35Z")
> [@zut](#): > > Pathologically angry-dating-virgin Ken-N-Barbie guy is Canaan. > > Dorky “Dances-With-Water-Dragons” Ken-N-Barbie is _also_ Canaan. > > Scheyenne is the guy with the aerodynamic hair. …blink… Oh…heh. Gotcha. So he’s also the guy in the spoiler? Which was in the race car? Does Schane have a personality? ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248/46 "2009-10-19T14:57:41Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Oh…heh. Gotcha. So he’s also the guy in the spoiler? Yes, Canaan and his relationship with Mika is in the spoiler (which is just spoilering the preview for next week). > [@](#): > > Which was in the race car? No, Cheyne was in the race car > [@](#): > > Does Schane have a personality? No. His current personality seems to be a Ken doll packaged with a Water Works Barbie (which is, not at all). ---
**Author:** ![SanibelMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@SanibelMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanibelMan)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248/47 "2009-10-19T15:01:55Z")
Of all the things to carry around the world on your back, why did Cheyne (shudder at the name) pick a big jar of styling gel? Isn’t that space you could use for something actually, y’know, useful? And the Fast Forward wasn’t a challenge at all. Did anyone else notice that he spent the entire time following a pace car? I can understand why - telling a tired, stressed racer to go as fast as they can around a track in an actual race car is probably asking for a big boom and a lot of money down the drain for the producers. But the point of the Fast Forward is to do something extra challenging, and that was way easier than even building the damn snowman, much less finding water in the desert. On the preview for next week: I’m looking forward to seeing the big meltdown next week. I’ve been to Atlantis, and I’m pretty sure I’ve been down that slide; it’s really not that big of a deal. Thousands of tourists fly to the Bahamas every year so they can do it. I’m sure she’ll be fine, geez. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248/48 "2009-10-19T15:02:29Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > No. His current personality seems to be a Ken doll packaged with a Water Works Barbie (which is, not at all). I think Pschaygne, hairwise, wants to be Phil. Unfortunately, Phil’s hair comes off stylish, and Pscheaiygne looks like that picture you have of yourself as a kid where you had your hand on the static electricity ball at the Magic House. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248/49 "2009-10-19T15:35:26Z")
> [@SanibelMan](#): > > Of all the things to carry around the world on your back, why did Cheyne (shudder at the name) pick a big jar of styling gel? Isn’t that space you could use for something actually, y’know, useful? When Zev and Justin unpacked their backpacks while looking for the passport, I was surprised how much stuff they had. Under the circumstances (in a hurry, just what you can carry on your back, and with twelve-hour stops at hotels every couple of days) I’d pack very few clothes and wash them during the Pit Stops. > [@](#): > > And the Fast Forward wasn’t a challenge at all. Did anyone else notice that he spent the entire time following a pace car? I can understand why - telling a tired, stressed racer to go as fast as they can around a track in an actual race car is probably asking for a big boom and a lot of money down the drain for the producers. Partly that, and it’s asking for trouble to try to be fast until you know the layout of the track. If I were on the show, my dream Roadblock would be a lap at the Nürburgring in Germany. I would kick ass. > [@](#): > > On the preview for next week: > > I’m looking forward to seeing the big meltdown next week. I’ve been to Atlantis, and I’m pretty sure I’ve been down that slide; it’s really not that big of a deal. Thousands of tourists fly to the Bahamas every year so they can do it. I’m sure she’ll be fine, geez. And she was wearing water wings, wasn’t she?I think they’re staying in the UAE for the next leg. How many different kinds of water slides are there, anyway? I’ve been on one like that in Palm Springs. I was a little nervous, but I did it. And I didn’t even have a chance at a million dollars waiting at the bottom. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248/50 "2009-10-19T15:47:05Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > And she was wearing water wings, wasn’t she? Yes, she was. They looked very small on her arms, so I’m guessing they got the largest kids ones they could find. She’s afraid of water too? Can’t see what water wings would do for her fear of heights. preview spoilers: > [@](#): > > I think they’re staying in the UAE for the next leg. How many different kinds of water slides are there, anyway? I’ve been on one like that in Palm Springs. I was a little nervous, but I did it. And I didn’t even have a chance at a million dollars waiting at the bottom. It did look like Paradise Island in the Bahamas, but a quick google shows there’s also a Paradise Island in Dubai. Makes more sense - if you sent them to the Bahamas now, you’d either have to backtrack, or spend the rest of the race in North & South America. ---
**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248/51 "2009-10-19T15:49:13Z")
And she was wearing water wings, wasn’t she? When my kids were real little, they were called “floaties” and were designed for small children who could not swim. Those looked like they might be the right size for a five year old. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248/52 "2009-10-19T15:57:49Z")
> [@LH75](#): > > When my kids were real little, they were called “floaties” and were designed for small children who could not swim. Those looked like they might be the right size for a five year old. Which won’t matter anyway. If that slide is anything like the one I’ve been on, it’s just ends with a long, flat section. You slide to a stop, then stand up. The worst part was getting some water up my nose. ---
**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248/53 "2009-10-19T16:10:17Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > [Cheyne’s] current personality seems to be a Ken doll packaged with a Water Works Barbie (which is, not at all). To be fair, the producers haven’t really given Meghan and Cheyne much screen time so far, which _usually_ means they’re not entertainingly fucking up or melting down. I suspect Cheyne will develop a personalty once all the loser teams are eliminated. > [@SanibelMan](#): > > Of all the things to carry around the world on your back, why did Cheyne (shudder at the name) pick a big jar of styling gel? Isn’t that space you could use for something actually, y’know, useful? Duuuuuuuude! If Cheyne didn’t bring his styling gel, he wouldn’t be able to _see_ anything. What’s more useful than that? ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248/54 "2009-10-19T16:54:48Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Then, the “task” for the Dubai building was “ride the elevator”? That’s it? You couldn’t think of anything else? C’mon. How about searching in the building for something? They should have made them walk up to the clue box and then back down. Or bunched them up at like 4:45 in the morning and said "you can walk up now or wait for the elevators to be turned on at 6:00a.m. Think how much it would have sucked to run/walk on that sand looking for water after having recently climbed a few thousand stairs. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248/55 "2009-10-19T17:13:31Z")
> [@zut](#): > > To be fair, the producers haven’t really given Meghan and Cheyne much screen time so far, which _usually_ means they’re not entertainingly fucking up or melting down. I suspect Cheyne will develop a personalty once all the loser teams are eliminated. To-may-to, to-mah-to. I still say they’re getting the bland couple edit (as opposed to the crazy couple edit and the likeable couple edit), which likely means they are quite bland all of the time. Contrast with Mika/Canaan (crazy couple edit) and Ericka/Brian (likeable couple edit). ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248/56 "2009-10-19T17:18:49Z")
> [@zut](#): > > To be fair, the producers haven’t really given Meghan and Cheyne much screen time so far They compensated for it by mis-identifying Brian & Ericka as Meghan & Cheyne. Just when I thought I was getting names straight, there’s a shot of Team Zebra, with “Meghan & Cheyne…Dating Barbie Dolls” (or whatever) superimposed. And I went…hey, waitaminnit… ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248/57 "2009-10-19T17:22:50Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > To-may-to, to-mah-to. > > I still say they’re getting the bland couple edit (as opposed to the crazy couple edit and the likeable couple edit), which likely means they are quite bland all of the time. > > Contrast with Mika/Canaan (crazy couple edit) and Ericka/Brian (likeable couple edit). I’d say that Ericka and Brian are getting the Willis’ edit (or the Ebony and Ivory edit if the Willises have become too obscure). How many cute jokes about chocolate and vanilla will we have to endure? I am black and you are white / You are blind as a bat and I have sight… ---
**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248/58 "2009-10-19T17:36:15Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > I’d say that Ericka and Brian are getting the Willis’ edit (or the Ebony and Ivory edit if the Willises have become too obscure). How many cute jokes about chocolate and vanilla will we have to endure? **Brian** : Crap! I got a nasty burn from that hot desert sun in Dubai! **Ericka** : That’s OK, honey. Now we’re Neapolitan! ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248/59 "2009-10-19T18:18:49Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > I am black and you are white / > You are blind as a bat and I have sight… [hijack] I friggin’ love that skit. I pull it up on youtube every once in a while when I’m in a really foul mood. [/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248/60 "2009-10-19T18:24:56Z")
> [@obfusciatrist](#): > > They should have made them walk up to the clue box and then back down. Or bunched them up at like 4:45 in the morning and said "you can walk up now or wait for the elevators to be turned on at 6:00a.m. > > Think how much it would have sucked to run/walk on that sand looking for water after having recently climbed a few thousand stairs. You…are a devious person and total-fuckingly-evil. I admire that and suggest that you apply for a job with The Amazing Race because you have a better idea of how to set up challenges than the Amazing Producers do. 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-18-09-im-like-ricky-bobby-probable-football-delays/514248.md?page=4)