# Amazing Race 10/25 -- starts on time! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 25, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104 "2009-10-25T23:03:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104/81 "2009-10-28T16:25:35Z")
You can pick out the trainwreck teams right at the beginning of the first episode. Just about anyone who says they came on the race “to test our relationship” is doomed. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104/82 "2009-10-28T18:51:16Z")
Frank and Margarita from Season One actually seemed better off after the race was over. Of course, they later ended up getting a divorce, but they reconciled for a couple of years, I think, after the show. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104/83 "2009-10-28T18:59:44Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Frank and Margarita from Season One actually seemed better off after the race was over. > > Of course, they later ended up getting a divorce, but they reconciled for a couple of years, I think, after the show. Yeah, not all of them, but the majority. There’s a reason that “we’re testing our relationship” causes reflex eyerolls from viewers of the show. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104/84 "2009-10-28T19:03:28Z")
Yeah, I can’t imagine that testing one’s relationship in the midst of an artificial high-pressure high-stakes situation is good for anyone. And thanks for reminding me of LENNY! LENNY! LENNY! LENNY! I’d forgotten that shriek. Like nails on a frigging chalkboard, that woman. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104/85 "2009-10-28T19:27:42Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I kinda wish they stayed on just to see what she else she can’t do. One thing no one’s mention yet (probably because it was situated between the slide freakout and “Muslim Time”) is that she said she doesn’t really run at all. You know, something she might want to have address before joining a RACE. Seriously. I can _almost_ see going on the Race if you have one weak area and are planning to either cowboy the fuck up or hope that it’s a situation where your partner can carry you (e.g., the other person does the task or drives the stick shift). But if you’re afraid of heights, afraid of water, can’t or won’t run, and don’t understand how to tell time, you’re pretty much screwed. Big eating challenges might make her tummy ache. Can you see her in that temple from a few (or more) seasons back with all the rats in it? How about shaving her head or downing a nice cuppa blood? As for the reminder about Lenny and Whiny…I could have gone a long, long time without ever thinking about them again. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104/86 "2009-10-29T14:39:15Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > And thanks for reminding me of LENNY! LENNY! LENNY! LENNY! I’d forgotten that shriek. Like nails on a frigging chalkboard, that woman. > [@lorene](#): > > As for the reminder about Lenny and Whiny…I could have gone a long, long time without ever thinking about them again. Just be thankful I didn’t compare Mika to Flo. Oops, I just did. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104/87 "2009-10-29T14:51:30Z")
Oh god, Flo. **shudder** ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104/88 "2009-10-30T12:35:37Z")
I’m in the Flo season now, and just finished watching her first meltdown when attempting to rappel down the cliff in Portugal. Even Mika wasn’t crying that hard, and Mika didn’t have another option! ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104/89 "2009-10-30T13:05:48Z")
Is that online anywhere? I know not this Flo of whom you speak. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104/90 "2009-10-30T13:23:44Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Is that online anywhere? I know not this Flo of whom you speak. Allow me to be the one to warn you that down that road madness lies… Flo & Zack were a team in Season 4(?), I guess they were supposed to be best friends or something. Well, as it turns out, Flo didn’t handle Killer Fatigue that well. There were some unfortunate incidents with Flo just _refusing_ to do tasks and such early on, and it lead up to a MASSIVE nervous breakdown type thing in Vietnam. Zack was a saint and a superman, and I’m not exaggerating by much. The man practically carried this woman on his metaphorical back around the world, and STILL WON! ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104/91 "2009-10-30T13:55:09Z")
Oh, I have heard the tales of Flo. They are spoken in hushed tones by those whose faces bear the careworn lines of one who has seen what no man should ever see. And it was season 3. I started watching the show near the end of season 4. ---
**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104/92 "2009-10-30T16:05:03Z")
Anyone know what was on Mika’s back at the waterslide? Was it some sort of waterproof patch for the audio gear or something? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104/93 "2009-10-31T09:33:52Z")
Booo on eliminating eye candy. It’s not like there is any actual _racing_ on the Amazing Race, so I can’t buy into teams being “better” or “more deserving” than each other; it’s all a random crap shoot. But I sure loves me dopey physical challenges, especially when they’re being done by hot chicks. > [@commasense](#): > > But they aren’t different at all. They are functionally identical, and differ only in form. Both draw smoke from burning materials through water, presumably to smooth it out, and into the user’s mouth. That’s like saying that a cigarette and a cigar are identical. They’re not. More to the point, the key difference between a hookah and a bong is that a hookah has multiple outputs while a bong only has one. This makes them clearly and objectively different. ---
**Author:** ![Avarie537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/48db29/32.png) [@Avarie537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avarie537)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104/94 "2009-11-01T15:43:32Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Booo on eliminating eye candy. It’s not like there is any actual _racing_ on the Amazing Race, so I can’t buy into teams being “better” or “more deserving” than each other; it’s all a random crap shoot. But I sure loves me dopey physical challenges, especially when they’re being done by hot chicks.That’s like saying that a cigarette and a cigar are identical. They’re not. > > More to the point, **the key difference between a hookah and a bong is that a hookah has multiple outputs while a bong only has one.** This makes them clearly and objectively different. Not necessarily … my high school boyfriend had a skull/jester bong with four hoses. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104/95 "2009-11-01T17:18:54Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Oh, I have heard the tales of Flo. Also known as “The Flobatross”. ---
**Author:** ![RachelChristine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RachelChristine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RachelChristine)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104/96 "2009-11-01T22:04:15Z")
I too have been wondering if I can see the old episodes from seasons before I started watching. I know you can buy/Netflix seasons 1 & 7, but I don’t see anything on Youtube from before I started watching. Are they on-line anywhere or is there any other reason to watch early seasons? Heck, at this point I’d even take a copy of someone’s “best of” moments that they made themselves! LOL ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104/97 "2009-11-01T22:36:25Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > More to the point, the key difference between a hookah and a bong is that a hookah has multiple outputs while a bong only has one. That, and teenagers rarely have to hide a hookah. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104/98 "2009-11-01T23:39:55Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > [Quote=commasense] > But they aren’t different at all. They are functionally identical, and differ only in form. Both draw smoke from burning materials through water, presumably to smooth it out, and into the user’s mouth. That’s like saying that a cigarette and a cigar are identical. They’re not. More to the point, the key difference between a hookah and a bong is that a hookah has multiple outputs while a bong only has one. This makes them clearly and objectively different. [/QUOTE] Do you understand the meaning of the word “functionally”? It means “with respect to the manner in which something operates.” Functionally speaking, a cigar and a cigarette are identical. They are not identical in other respects, nor are a a bong and a hookah, but if I had meant to say that they were completely identical, I wouldn’t have modified the adjective “identical” with the adverb “functionally,” nor added that they “differ only in form.” Also, many hookahs have only one mouthpiece. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104/99 "2009-11-04T13:38:25Z")
> [@commasense](#): > > Do you understand the meaning of the word “functionally”? It means “with respect to the manner in which something operates.” > > Functionally speaking, a cigar and a cigarette are identical. They are not identical in other respects, […] I call bullshit on your backpedalling. Bolding mine: > [@commasense](#): > > **But they aren’t different at all.** They are functionally identical, and differ only in form. Both draw smoke from burning materials through water, presumably to smooth it out, and into the user’s mouth. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104/100 "2009-11-04T15:52:37Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > I call bullshit on your backpedalling. Bolding mine: Thank you so much for showing me what I wrote and calling it backpedalling. It couldn’t possibly be that you read one sentence of my post and ran off to contradict me without grasping my meaning. No, I was backpedalling. That clarifies everything. Thanks. :rolleyes: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-10-25-starts-on-time/515104.md?page=6)