# Amazing Race 4/12 - "Herculean Effort for Some Herculean Dudes" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 12, 2006, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-12-herculean-effort-for-some-herculean-dudes/352402 "2006-04-12T17:02:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-12-herculean-effort-for-some-herculean-dudes/352402/1 "2006-04-12T17:02:40Z")
Previously on “The Amazing Race”: Teams of two! Foreign countries without Waffle Houses! Phil looking hot in a biker jacket! Lake wearing some kind of tool-y moob harness! Possibly-gay-and-overcompensating frat boys! Dweeby and unfunny hippies! Nerds! Phil looking hot in pants that fit properly! Old people! Teams with cutesy names like “Glamazons” and “MoJo”! Ray and Yolanda! Tonight on “The Amazing Race”: > [@Yahoo! TV](#): > > Teams each get a portion of Da Vinci’s famed ``Vitruvian Man’’ and must find the rest to get the clue; teams travel through Greece and compete in Olympic-style games, including a bout in the mud with a Greek wrestler. Also, according to Issue 4 of “The Amazing Race Report,” which apparently I subscribe to, but I don’t remember signing up: > [@](#): > > \*\* Racers are taken back to ancient times and compete in games that include a grueling bout in the mud with a Greek wrestler. > > - One Racer is paralyzed by fear when they face a 240-foot bungee jump into a canal. > - A lack of focus and confusion plagues several Teams who get lost driving, and frustration fuels an emotional breakdown for one duo. > - See all the action on Wednesday, April 12 at 8PM ET/PT!\* I’ve completely given up on this season of “Survivor,” but I am **SO. GLAD.** that the Race exists, I can’t even tell you. See you all at 8:00! ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-12-herculean-effort-for-some-herculean-dudes/352402/2 "2006-04-12T17:08:54Z")
I really can’t wait to see Tyler vs. Greek Wrestler. Every time I see the commercial, I start giggling. According to last week’s previews, Fran is the one “paralyzed by fear”, but I’m betting she’ll get over it. What’s the likelihood of tonight being the first NEL? And doesn’t anybody know how many NELs there will be? ---
**Author:** ![Avarie537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/48db29/32.png) [@Avarie537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avarie537)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-12-herculean-effort-for-some-herculean-dudes/352402/3 "2006-04-12T17:10:00Z")
> [@rockle](#): > > I’ve completely given up on this season of “Survivor,” but I am **SO. GLAD.** that the Race exists, I can’t even tell you. See you all at 8:00! _sigh_ “Survivor” is like a trainwreck in slo-mo for me. I just wanna see how it ends. But I luuuuuuuuuurves me some Amazing Race! ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-12-herculean-effort-for-some-herculean-dudes/352402/4 "2006-04-12T17:13:43Z")
> [@Avarie537](#): > > “Survivor” is like a trainwreck in slo-mo for me. I just wanna see how it ends. _Hear, hear!_ I just want it _to_ end. This season, anyway. Funny how, for four seasons, I said, “I don’t want to watch that ‘Race,’ it’s not going to be as good as ‘Survivor.’” Bwahahahahaha. I’ve been _pwnt_ by Phil and his turtlenecks, dadgummit! ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-12-herculean-effort-for-some-herculean-dudes/352402/5 "2006-04-12T17:18:14Z")
The Race and Survivor threads are almost all the same people, I’ve noticed–and I think there are only one or two of us who are really giving a damn about Survivor anymore this season. I say thank God they moved it to Wednesday. 🙂 Race on at 10 _and_ sucky Survivor would just about kill us all. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-12-herculean-effort-for-some-herculean-dudes/352402/6 "2006-04-12T17:18:31Z")
I’m still watching _Survivor_, just because it’s _Survivor_, but yeah, I’ve sort of given up hope of it getting interesting. _TAR_ is really good this time out, however! I’m looking forward to this week. Fran gets scared on the bungee jump - although we all know the Promo Monkeys can be misleading, I’m hoping for once someone actually chickens out and says, “I just can’t do it.” ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-12-herculean-effort-for-some-herculean-dudes/352402/7 "2006-04-12T17:21:46Z")
> [@Draelin](#): > > I really can’t wait to see Tyler vs. Greek Wrestler. Based on the latest round of photos circulating on the net, Tyler _really_ ought to enjoy the wrestler, but not as much as I suspect Eric or Jeremy would enjoy it. Which photos I of course can’t link to from work (stupid fucking nanny bastards). So if you haven’t seen them already, enjoy your last few hours of innocence and get ready to claw your own eyes out later this evening. ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-12-herculean-effort-for-some-herculean-dudes/352402/8 "2006-04-12T17:33:57Z")
I’ve seen the photos, **Otto**. I have my serious doubts about the guys’ _real_ enjoyment of the wrestling for the reason you’re hinting at, though; the photos look to me like straight boys acting gay in a (failed) attempt to be funny. Which is just as well; do you really want them batting for your team? (Not that us hetero folks are all that fond of having E&J lusting after us, either, alas.) Anyway, my only objection to the new race schedule is that it means that the _instant_ the race ends, I have to dash into the other room so as to not miss the opening of Lost since Papa T. doesn’t watch it and I don’t even want to begin trying to explain it all to him at this point in any case. And I invariably have at least one if not two dogs underfoot. It’s darned hazardous, I tell you! Who knew TV watching could lead to such potential for physical injury? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-12-herculean-effort-for-some-herculean-dudes/352402/9 "2006-04-12T18:48:42Z")
> [@Mama Tiger](#): > > I’ve seen the photos, **Otto**. I have my serious doubts about the guys’ _real_ enjoyment of the wrestling for the reason you’re hinting at, though; the photos look to me like straight boys acting gay in a (failed) attempt to be funny. Which is just as well; do you really want them batting for your team? (Not that us hetero folks are all that fond of having E&J lusting after us, either, alas.) It’s largely an academic exercise, since I wouldn’t sleep with the hippies if they were gay and E&J wouldn’t sleep with me if they were gay, but I’m intrigued by the nature of the play, if it’s in fact play. Spoilers for the photos, seriously don’t read unless you’ve seen the photos: Do straight men in packs often stick their hands down each others’ bathing suits? Do straight men yank each others’ pants down and put their faces right there in the other guy’s crotch? I’m entertained at the idea that E&J can be that completely clueless about their own sexuality, but I’m even more intrigued at the notion that not only are they not clueless but they’re running some bizarre meta-game of presenting themselves as meathead hetero-dopes. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-12-herculean-effort-for-some-herculean-dudes/352402/10 "2006-04-12T18:54:45Z")
Meh, Survivor. Yay, Race! Seriously…if Survivor wasn’t cuddle-time with the **'freak** , I’d be playing WoW Thursday nights at 8 this season… ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-12-herculean-effort-for-some-herculean-dudes/352402/11 "2006-04-12T19:47:00Z")
Ijust hope this week’s episode isn’t a complete dud like last week’s. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-12-herculean-effort-for-some-herculean-dudes/352402/12 "2006-04-12T20:06:57Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > Based on the latest round of photos circulating on the net, Tyler _really_ ought to enjoy the wrestler, but not as much as I suspect Eric or Jeremy would enjoy it. > [@Mama Tiger](#): > > I’ve seen the photos, **Otto**. I have my serious doubts about the guys’ _real_ enjoyment of the wrestling for the reason you’re hinting at, though; the photos look to me like straight boys acting gay in a (failed) attempt to be funny. You realize, don’t you, that describing such photos without providing a link is downright cruel? I’m gonna go on record and say that this season of TAR is turning into the best season ever. Certainly, it’s got the best cast of all time – Nerds! Hippies! Non-Weeble Old People! Glamazons! Lake as in the Ocean! And More!!! And I’m 90% certain that tonight will be the first NEL. We’re overdue. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-12-herculean-effort-for-some-herculean-dudes/352402/13 "2006-04-12T20:39:03Z")
> [@KGS](#): > > You realize, don’t you, that describing such photos without providing a link is downright cruel? I’m at work another hour and a half, then 20 minutes to drive home barring traffic. Then you’ll have your link. > [@KGS](#): > > And I’m 90% certain that tonight will be the first NEL. We’re overdue. I would agree with you 100%, but I was similarly 100% sure that last week would be NEL. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Big\_Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@The\_Big\_Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Big_Cheese)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-12-herculean-effort-for-some-herculean-dudes/352402/14 "2006-04-12T21:34:16Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > I’m at work another hour and a half, then 20 minutes to drive home barring traffic. Then you’ll have your link. . Avoid Willy St, otherwise it’ll be another hour and 20 minutes to drive home. Still blocked off. (We have a killing in Madison! We don’t get many round here, so they close off streets all day long when it happens) To copy someone above, Yea TAR, Nay Survivor. Gotta be a NEL, but maybe they’ll just skip them, who knows. I predict it’s either Old Couple or RayYo last tonight, and the other one last next week. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-12-herculean-effort-for-some-herculean-dudes/352402/15 "2006-04-12T22:29:00Z")
> [@The Big Cheese](#): > > Avoid Willy St. I always do. Fucking hippies. Anyway, without further ado, I give you: [Eric and Jeremy’s Very Special Half-Naked Pool Party, with Special Guest Stars BJ and Tyler](http://www.jaunted.com/story/2006/4/3/93331/35157/celeb/Amazing+Race+9%3A+Eric+%26amp%3B+Jeremy%27s+Half+Naked+Party+Photos) Not safe for work, or for those with a delicate constitution… ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-12-herculean-effort-for-some-herculean-dudes/352402/16 "2006-04-12T22:33:43Z")
> [@KGS](#): > > I’m gonna go on record and say that this season of TAR is turning into the best season ever. Certainly, it’s got the best cast of all time – Nerds! Hippies! Non-Weeble Old People! Glamazons! Lake as in the Ocean! And More!!! You forgot “Ray and Yolanda!” We can’t forget them. I have a sneaking suspicion they’ll win this whole thing … except, since I believe that, they’ll probably be out this week. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-12-herculean-effort-for-some-herculean-dudes/352402/17 "2006-04-12T22:34:51Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > [Eric and Jeremy’s Very Special Half-Naked Pool Party, with Special Guest Stars BJ and Tyler](http://www.jaunted.com/story/2006/4/3/93331/35157/celeb/Amazing+Race+9%3A+Eric+%26amp%3B+Jeremy%27s+Half+Naked+Party+Photos) Damn, those tan lines are _trashy!_ ---
**Author:** ![The\_Big\_Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@The\_Big\_Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Big_Cheese)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-12-herculean-effort-for-some-herculean-dudes/352402/18 "2006-04-12T22:59:33Z")
Why couldn’t\* The Salsa’s\* have visited instead of that hippie trash… :mad: ---
**Author:** ![The\_Big\_Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@The\_Big\_Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Big_Cheese)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-12-herculean-effort-for-some-herculean-dudes/352402/19 "2006-04-12T23:07:40Z")
From last week, [Carissa explains it all…](http://www.tarflies.com/article.php?_f=detail&id=752&tarfly=e1b7fb6586b3e2548d0b436c87fbd518)\* Joseph & Monica should not worry about getting dirty. They are holding their fish like a bunch of sissies. I want to see them with fish blood on their bodies. Phil should try out for Dancing with the Stars since he is a pretty good dancer. I really like Phil.\* ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2006, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-12-herculean-effort-for-some-herculean-dudes/352402/20 "2006-04-13T00:10:15Z")
Oh no he di’n’t. Lake did _not_ just call his wife a bitch over a piece of paper. Man, I’ve been trying to stick up for the guy, but jeez, five minutes into the leg and he’s popping off with that? Bah. On another note, the last leg took like five hours. What was the point? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-12-herculean-effort-for-some-herculean-dudes/352402.md?page=2)