# Amazing Race 4/17 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 17, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-17/578751 "2011-04-17T20:38:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-17/578751/61 "2011-04-19T05:53:56Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > In my book, it’s pretty much never okay to pee on a building, let alone one of national significance. How do you feel about smearing feces onto walls? Cause they sure did a lot of that on the last leg. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-17/578751/62 "2011-04-19T09:57:07Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > In my book, it’s pretty much never okay to pee on a building, let alone one of national significance. It really wouldn’t have taken that long to find a designated spot for that inside the building. If I’m in a race for a million dollars, I’m peeing on the damn building. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-17/578751/63 "2011-04-19T11:48:24Z")
> [@Saltire](#): > > I’m shocked no one’s mentioned the great line from Jet, about leaving the subcontinent: “We’re tired of playing Cowboys and Indians.” I missed that! Great line. > [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > I also got a chuckle out of Vyxxen describing them as the last romantic couple left on the race. Come on! You’re not still fooling anyone. Somehow my husband has missed the elevnty-seven times the words “Dating Goths” have appeared beneath their names this season and when they were on before. When Vyxxxxsin said that, he goggled and said, “What…what? Romantic? _Them??!_” Allegdly, said I. > [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I have seen two guys peeing in the gutter of a street in downtown Stuttgart. If mentioning that counts as bragging, so be it. I definitely need to redirect you to the post where the phrase sneak-bragging was coined. I…just don’t think that qualifies. 😉 FWIW, **MPB** , Amazing Race threads are frequently peppered with peoples’ experiences in the places the Race visits. Well, not mine, because I’ve hardly been anywhere, even Spokane, but others’. That’s part of what makes it _fun_. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-17/578751/64 "2011-04-19T12:02:32Z")
> [@Red\_Barchetta](#): > > If I’m in a race for a million dollars, I’m peeing on the damn building. Perhaps I would too. I wouldn’t claim that made it okay. > [@lorene](#): > > I definitely need to redirect you to the post where the phrase sneak-bragging was coined. That schnitzel reminded me of the schnitzel I once ate while visiting in Bad Nauheim, Germany. It was different for us, though, in that we shortly thereafter took the train for a weekend in Paris, rather than carrying a couch through Vienna. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-17/578751/65 "2011-04-19T12:17:52Z")
> [@lorene](#): > > Yeah, it wasn’t ideal, but I’d rather someone pee in a public location than against the wall of someone’s house, y’know? It was also winter and snow was intermittently falling–pee washes right off, so…who cares? Man, I’m sick of Kynt and Vixen. He’s approaching Flo (of Flo and Zach) level of whiney pissiness. I like the competitave comraderie on this season–it’s something we haven’t seen in years–the teams realizing that they can be civil to each other and grown-ups and friendly, but still race. I love that there’s zero inter-team draaaaama this season. I also like the fact that the clues seem a bit harder that “go here/do this” and the challenges are more than “Strap yourself in. Be ballast while someone else does something”. The product placment is way, WAY over the top this time around and clunky (the repeated Phil’s speech shilling that new Ford voice activated thing 3 times in 3 minutes and then again at the end…poorly done) but as good as this season’s been otherwise, I can handle it. At least there’s no more “Go to Paraguay where Gnomes are a traditional symbol of good luck and find your Travelocty Gnome” crap–the product placement isn’t affecting the game all THAT much…even the Snapple wasn’t too intrusive and they needed cars anyway) ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-17/578751/66 "2011-04-19T12:33:35Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > That schnitzel reminded me of the schnitzel I once ate while visiting in Bad Nauheim, Germany. It was different for us, though, in that we shortly thereafter took the train for a weekend in Paris, rather than carrying a couch through Vienna. Well done, sir. I forgot to mention how pleased I was that Zev and Justin won the cars. I have a little bit of a blind/soft spot where they’re concerned, in that I just want Zev to have a happy life and feel more comfortable in his own skin, and I think Justin is pretty awesome. I came into this season rooting for the Cowboys, with the Globetrotters in the #2 position, but I would be all kinds of happy if Zev and Justin won. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-17/578751/67 "2011-04-19T13:08:39Z")
Really, I would be happy if _any_ of the remaining teams other than the Goths won. They all seem to be likeable people. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-17/578751/68 "2011-04-19T13:52:08Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I was looking forward to Kent and Vyxsin. Now I’m looking forward to seeing the last of them. > > I still think Vyxsin is probably a nice person, but boy howdy. They are not a good pair. Does Vyxsin not know how to drive? It seems like Kent is always driving while she is navigating, then they either get lost because she can’t read the map or she’s screaming at him because he’s not following her directions. I can’t figure out why she doesn’t grab the wheel sometimes and let him take the back seat. ---
**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-17/578751/69 "2011-04-19T13:57:54Z")
Probably because Kent navigating is much much worse than Kent driving. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-17/578751/70 "2011-04-19T14:17:32Z")
Yeah, Kent can get lost while being told where to go. Imagine if he were the one giving directions. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-17/578751/71 "2011-04-19T14:33:47Z")
In Kent’s defense, that time they got spectacularly lost in Japan was Vyxyn’s fault. She sent them in the wrong direction for hours and hours and he kept pretty calm while she had a nervous breakdown. ---
**Author:** ![phreesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@phreesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phreesh)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-17/578751/72 "2011-04-19T15:45:17Z")
I was hoping one of the male teams would say something like - “Man, I’ve had enough of grabbing crotches - COUCHES. [looking at partner] Grabbing couches.” ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-17/578751/73 "2011-04-19T18:41:11Z")
> [@lorene](#): > > I definitely need to redirect you to the post where the phrase sneak-bragging was coined. Go ahead. There’s a lot of things in my life that I’d like to be redirected these days. ---
**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-17/578751/74 "2011-04-20T11:48:31Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > In Kent’s defense, that time they got spectacularly lost in Japan was Vyxyn’s fault. She sent them in the wrong direction for hours and hours and he kept pretty calm while she had a nervous breakdown. To be fair, her nervous breakdown was because she felt guilty because she messed up on the directions. But it seems like she was trying to determine north and south by way of a little handheld compass. I’ve never tried to navigate in a country where all the street signs are in both another language and another alphabet, working from the backseat at that, but I can’t imagine that it’s terribly easy. (The need to put the cameraperson in the passenger seat is not really a great aid toward the navigator being able to see where they’re going.) ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-17/578751/75 "2011-04-20T13:04:55Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > The product placment is way, WAY over the top this time around and clunky (the repeated Phil’s speech shilling that new Ford voice activated thing 3 times in 3 minutes and then again at the end…poorly done) but as good as this season’s been otherwise, I can handle it. At least there’s no more “Go to Paraguay where Gnomes are a traditional symbol of good luck and find your Travelocty Gnome” crap–the product placement isn’t affecting the game all THAT much…even the Snapple wasn’t too intrusive and they needed cars anyway) I’ll tell you what though, that limited edition TAR Snapple flavor is awesome! ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-17/578751/76 "2011-04-20T13:07:55Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Go ahead. There’s a lot of things in my life that I’d like to be redirected these days. Oh, like they do in _Europe_? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Randy\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ee7513/32.png) [@Randy\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randy_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-17/578751/77 "2011-04-21T19:29:14Z")
Finally got around to watching this week’s episode. > [@obfusciatrist](#): > > “I could throw up so we can try again.” > > Sentences like that (probably not word-for-word correct) must make a father proud. This was the jaw-dropping line for me. Stated by a former beauty pageant model. She said it so casually, as if to say, purging a big meal is not that big a deal for me, and I know exactly how my body reacts when I do it. Wow. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-17/578751/78 "2011-04-21T22:17:37Z")
> [@lorene](#): > > Oh, like they do in _Europe_? 😛 I’d like to run away, but I’m not sure that’s far enough. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-17/578751/79 "2011-04-22T15:48:15Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > In Kent’s defense, that time they got spectacularly lost in Japan was Vyxyn’s fault. She sent them in the wrong direction for hours and hours and he kept pretty calm while she had a nervous breakdown. ISTR that on Teym Gyth’s first appearance, Vyxyn had a nervous breakdown while driving because she’d “been up for 20 hours straight!” Failure to read Rule 1 indeed. ---
**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-17/578751/80 "2011-04-23T02:03:19Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > ISTR that on Teym Gyth’s first appearance, Vyxyn had a nervous breakdown while driving because she’d “been up for 20 hours straight!” Failure to read Rule 1 indeed. Rule 1? Sleep whenever you can? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-17/578751.md?page=3)