# Amazing Race 4 Love Fest - Episode 1 (5/29/03) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 29, 2003, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-love-fest-episode-1-5-29-03/178284 "2003-05-29T15:43:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![rexnervous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@rexnervous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rexnervous)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-love-fest-episode-1-5-29-03/178284/41 "2003-05-30T16:54:51Z")
slight hijack - I don’t watch much TV, but for how long has “tits” been a staple of 8pm network television? same hijack - I also found it mildly surprising they did use the subtitle “married” for the gay couple. I don’t have any problem with either of these, but for CBS (whose audience skews older) I was a little shocked at both of these. /hijack Anyway - this show rocks. ---
**Author:** ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-love-fest-episode-1-5-29-03/178284/42 "2003-05-30T17:05:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Interrobang!? \* > \*\*I was hoping the chicks with the fake boobs and the fake names would be eliminated, but I didn’t expect it – there was no way the last-place finishers would’ve won any kind of speed race. > > And was that the most useless Fast Forward ever? I didn’t see Season 1, so maybe someone there screwed up even further, but geez. \*\* There was a similar mistake in the first season. In the first leg teams had to go from New York to South Africa. There were three flights, only one of which was direct. One of the teams on the first flight went for the Fast Forward. (Actually, one of the later teams did too.) It did them no good since everyone got pulled together by an opening time the very next episode. Of course, the team that used it went on to win the race, but it was still wasted. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-love-fest-episode-1-5-29-03/178284/43 "2003-05-30T17:12:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Kyann22 \* > \*\*I’m a big Survivor fan and have never watched AR until last night. I really liked it, although keeping track of everyone was a bit difficult. I think once the field is narrowed down a bit and I can remember who everyone is, I’ll LOVE this show and be mad at myself for missing the first 3. > > Even though I do think clowns are scary, I love that team! They are my favorite so far. > > Thank goodness there is a show worth watching on TV now. This week has been pretty boring as far as TV goes. \*\* I’m in the same boat as you. Survivor fan watching this for the 1st time. Don’t you usually have trouble keeping track of the names early on in Survivor, too? There’s always a Jen and a Mike and whatever. I just go by personaliity or characteristics (like the 24 thread). Grouchy older guy, hot bonde with fake tits, Gay guy, etc. I can alraedy see: S.D. white trash couple. Clown guys. Ditzy NFL wives. Virgin suicide couple. etc. And I agree, the “married” guy couple-- wow, aren’t we liberal! Anyone who hasn’t already figured out that these guys are gay needs to have his gadar recalibarted at the next pit stop. Besided just being pretty obvious in and of itself, we all know that **there’s always a gay preson/couple on these shows**. ---
**Author:** ![evilhomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/43a26b/32.png) [@evilhomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/evilhomer)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-love-fest-episode-1-5-29-03/178284/44 "2003-05-30T17:42:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tanstaafl \* > \*\*There was a similar mistake in the first season. In the first leg teams had to go from New York to South Africa. There were three flights, only one of which was direct. > > One of the teams on the first flight went for the Fast Forward. (Actually, one of the later teams did too.) It did them no good since everyone got pulled together by an opening time the very next episode. Of course, the team that used it went on to win the race, but it was still wasted. \*\* Also in the first race, Joe and Bill, the team everone loved to hate, got the fast forward, and were almost eliminated. They figured they’d have a huge lead on other teams, and took their time in following the directions it had. They ended up in second last for that leg, as I recall. I think they might even have been last, but the second last team skipped a detour and received a 24 hour penalty. ---
**Author:** ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-love-fest-episode-1-5-29-03/178284/45 "2003-05-30T18:02:47Z")
I too was surprised by “tits,” not having heard it on TV before. Not that it bothered me. I wish the gay couple would just shut up about being gay. Talk about something else, please. And if you think the others don’t know, you’re probably kidding yourselves. Okay, you’re gay, you’re married, cool. What ELSE is interesting about you? I liked the couple that got eliminated, but I didn’t think they’d get very far and was not surprised to see them go. This is my first time watching this, so it ought to be fun. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-love-fest-episode-1-5-29-03/178284/46 "2003-05-30T18:40:06Z")
> [@](#): > > This is my first time watching this, so it ought to be fun. Man, you think _SDMB_ is addictive … this stuff is telecrack. Was there any explanation of why there was no “only one person completes this task” element? (I’m forgetting my terminology – and I’ve been watching since the first show ever – is that the roadblock?) That is often leads to an interesting glimpse into the relationships – and can lead to problems. (Remember when Wil screwed up the slang thing in Australia and had to go redo the whole course?) I hope they haven’t dropped that element. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-love-fest-episode-1-5-29-03/178284/47 "2003-05-30T18:50:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by whiterabbit \* > \*\* > I wish the gay couple would just shut up about being gay. Talk about something else, please. And if you think the others don’t know, you’re probably kidding yourselves. Okay, you’re gay, you’re married, cool. What ELSE is interesting about you? > \*\* Yeah, it’s a bit much. Don’t be too quick to blame them, though. The editors can’t paint whatever picture they want. ---
**Author:** ![Velma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/85e7bf/32.png) [@Velma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velma)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-love-fest-episode-1-5-29-03/178284/48 "2003-05-30T18:58:55Z")
I noticed the lack of the ‘one person’ task, too. Also, am I confused or did the last group get to take a taxi to the end when the other teams didn’t? I have an early liking for the clown team, which means they won’t win. I bet they go pretty far, though. For some reason female-female teams never get to the final 3, and neither do parent-child teams. It seems to be couples and male-male teams that do the best. Also my favorite reality show, I’m glad it’s still on. Maybe it will get more of a following in this time slot. ---
**Author:** ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-love-fest-episode-1-5-29-03/178284/49 "2003-05-30T19:36:02Z")
There has not been a Roadblock (the “one person task”) on the first leg of any Race previously either. Not sure why. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-love-fest-episode-1-5-29-03/178284/50 "2003-05-30T23:38:04Z")
Thanks **tanstaafl** – I guess they’re usually trying to jam all the intros, etc., plus the first leg into an hour, so they didn’t do one – then were given an hour and a half for the show. Yay! I love roadblocks. This (i.e., next) week’s _Entertainment Weekly_, Dalton Ross’s “What to Watch” (my single favorite feature every week. His one-line entry for **Amazing Race** : “My week revolves around this.” Amen, brother! Preach it! ---
**Author:** ![Blueberry\_Buckle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3bc359/32.png) [@Blueberry\_Buckle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blueberry_Buckle)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-love-fest-episode-1-5-29-03/178284/51 "2003-05-31T00:23:15Z")
I absolutely loved AR the other night. I wish all nights were an hour and a half. However, I miss seeing team Guido (sigh…). They were my faves for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![DeVena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@DeVena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeVena)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-love-fest-episode-1-5-29-03/178284/52 "2003-05-31T00:33:37Z")
As a slow fat cow myself, I’m screaming at the screen when the older married couple chooses the mountain-climb-rope-bridge-sliding-then-hike “rescue” rather than the walk-in-snow-then-snowmobile-out "search. “RESCUE? Fat people don’t rescue! You’re too out of shape for that. Search SEARCH Bloody Hell Why didn’t you SEARCH?” The annoying redhead chick has got to go - and the passive/aggressive couple “He just yells when I stand still.” Good Lord. And the models? ick I like the clowns. ---
**Author:** ![survivorology.com](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/0ea827/32.png) [@survivorology.com](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/survivorology.com)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-love-fest-episode-1-5-29-03/178284/53 "2003-05-31T01:03:16Z")
Sure, Debra and Steve could not be considered strong competitors for the million. However, I wonder if it was right to make the first segment so physical. It would be a much more interesting race if they eliminated one of the brainless groups first, rather than the out of shape crowd. A competition where significant brain power is required and maybe, I don’t know, TEAMWORK, could really separate out the weak teams. If they favor the more athletic so early on, this could make a team similar to Jenna/Heidi and their shared brain from Survivor to be winners in a competition. I guess the moral of the story is if you are older and not in shape, go for the fast forward on the first episode. ---
**Author:** ![Trigonal\_Planar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/0ea827/32.png) [@Trigonal\_Planar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trigonal_Planar)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-love-fest-episode-1-5-29-03/178284/54 "2003-05-31T02:33:35Z")
The Clowns are my favourite team right now but I also doubt they’ll win. I like the father/son team too; I love the way the kid calls him “pops” all the time. Its kinda funny. I can’t stand the bitchy NFL wives team. They can’t compete; just hurry up and lose why don’t they. One thing I noticed that another poster mentioned was the lack of diversity in these teams. I would’ve liked maybe some sibling teams, etc. As for the subtitles, the teams themselves submit them. Hence why some are labelled as “friends” vs. “best friends” and other interesting “facts” are shown… ---
**Author:** ![DeVena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@DeVena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeVena)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2003, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-love-fest-episode-1-5-29-03/178284/55 "2003-05-31T21:59:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by [survivorology.com](http://survivorology.com) \* > \*\* Jenna/Heidi and their shared brain from Survivor \*\* Bwahahaha - love it! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-4-love-fest-episode-1-5-29-03/178284.md?page=2)