# Amazing Race 5/3 - "He Made Me Look Like Alice Cooper!" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 4, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-5-3-he-made-me-look-like-alice-cooper/495226 "2009-05-04T00:07:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-5-3-he-made-me-look-like-alice-cooper/495226/41 "2009-05-05T02:35:25Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > I liked the bit in the cab (in the previews) “Ma’am, I’m not your personal concierge”. > > Will we FINALLY get what we’ve always wanted to see? A cabbie dump an obnoxious racer on the side of the road saying “No fare is worth this shit”? At the rate Cara & Jaime are going I sure hope so. Their snarking on non-Racers finally got on my nerves. I’ll give redheads slack, but not THAT much. Why didn’t we get to see locals laughing at the Racers in this leg? (Regardless of the locals’ state of inebriation.) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-5-3-he-made-me-look-like-alice-cooper/495226/42 "2009-05-05T03:07:03Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > At the rate Cara & Jaime are going I sure hope so. Their snarking on non-Racers finally got on my nerves. I’ll give redheads slack, but not THAT much. I think it might be Jaime doing all the complaining. Cara (from what little I can tell them apart, or bother trying to) might be okay. I’ll have to watch for that in the last episode. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-5-3-he-made-me-look-like-alice-cooper/495226/43 "2009-05-05T10:38:55Z")
Yeah, one of 'em (the one without the pony-tail \*) seems to be trying to keep the other in check. \*Pony Tails= ~30 “pretty” points. Sadly for pony-tail girl, being a jingoistic douche = -200 “pretty” points. ---
**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-5-3-he-made-me-look-like-alice-cooper/495226/44 "2009-05-05T10:47:18Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > I liked the bit in the cab (in the previews) “Ma’am, I’m not your personal concierge”. > > Will we FINALLY get what we’ve always wanted to see? A cabbie dump an obnoxious racer on the side of the road saying “No fare is worth this shit”? As a six or so year veteran of the Hawaiian tourist industry, I heard that and cheered! At the risk of sounding vicious, I hope Jaime makes the mistake of forgetting Hawaii’s a state or, better yet, part of America, and gets a driver with a good, thick, pidgin accent and a nice, take-it-easy attitude. The gentleman was lamenting last night that he doesn’t like any of the teams left. I don’t find Tammy and Victor too bad, but I missed the first half hour of the show on Sunday, so I didn’t see the business in Tiananmen Square. Margie, Luke, and Jaime, though, can go jump in a lake as far as I’m concerned. Cara does seem like she’s been trying to calm Jaime down, but not successfully. Part of me thinks that being on _The Amazing Race_ may have sabotaged Jaime’s dating career, but then I realized I know a few too many men who share her views of foreigners. ---
**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-5-3-he-made-me-look-like-alice-cooper/495226/45 "2009-05-05T10:49:41Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Yeah, pointing at the name of the building as its written in English on the clue would work, if they were in a country that used the English alphabet. In China…not so much. From what I’ve seen when they’ve shown the clues, place names are also written in the local language as well as English. I’ve seen place names written in Chinese this race and I’ve seen racers showing their clues to cab drivers, so I don’t think that’s it. On the other hand, I could see a cab driver looking at a couple with a gnome, a couple of backpacks, and a technician or two and thinking, “No, there are easier fares out there.” ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-5-3-he-made-me-look-like-alice-cooper/495226/46 "2009-05-05T12:49:35Z")
I think Margie is the only respectable personality out there. The only time we’ve seen her with any kind of attitude is when she was trying to protect her (adult) son who has the emotional maturity of a 5-year old (mothering instinct), and when he was making her look like Alice Cooper with the makeup. I cut her some slack for those. Otherwise, the bitch kicks ass and takes names. I give her major props. With the possible exception of Tammy, the other racers all irritate me. I think Tammy and Margie should form their own winning team. ETA: The ‘lack of gag reflex’ think with Cara cracked me up. See honey? It comes in handy for other things, too! ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-5-3-he-made-me-look-like-alice-cooper/495226/47 "2009-05-05T17:09:34Z")
I am not really sure why there is so much Victor hate, although maybe hate is a strong word…dislike might be better. Is he the nicest guy in the world? Certainly doesn’t seem to be to his sister, but sibling relationships can be complicated. I have not seen him be rude to others, he seems to be racing very well with his sister. Yes he is controlling and jerkish toward his sister, at times, but he also seems to be pretty self aware of his bad behaviour. Of all the teams I think Tammy and Victor make a fine team. They are not the most entertaining or the most dyamic team ever, so I am not heavily invested in their success. But if they win I think they will deserve it, for sure. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-5-3-he-made-me-look-like-alice-cooper/495226/48 "2009-05-05T17:23:21Z")
IRL, in my experience, Victor is a nice guy. Competitive, you bet. The dude coaches debate…of course he’s competitive! ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-5-3-he-made-me-look-like-alice-cooper/495226/49 "2009-05-05T17:28:12Z")
Victor is a whiner. So’s Luke. I can’t stand whiners. In previous seasons, wasn’t there a rule about partners having to perform a relatively equal number of roadblocks? Luke has only done 3 that I can remember. StG ---
**Author:** ![Judith\_Prietht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b19c9b/32.png) [@Judith\_Prietht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Judith_Prietht)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-5-3-he-made-me-look-like-alice-cooper/495226/50 "2009-05-05T17:30:26Z")
I feel like Tammy and Victor have mellowed out the longer they’ve stayed in the Race, whereas Margie/Luke and Cara/Jaime are really showing their fatigue. This gives me hope for them winning the whole thing. Ideally, I’d like to see Tammy and Cara win $1M. ---
**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-5-3-he-made-me-look-like-alice-cooper/495226/51 "2009-05-05T17:45:18Z")
> [@StGermain](#): > > Victor is a whiner. So’s Luke. I can’t stand whiners. > > In previous seasons, wasn’t there a rule about partners having to perform a relatively equal number of roadblocks? Luke has only done 3 that I can remember. > > StG [Wiki](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amazing_Race_14) has all three of the final teams with a 5/5 Roadblock split. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-5-3-he-made-me-look-like-alice-cooper/495226/52 "2009-05-05T18:03:41Z")
**Zut** - Wow, that really surprises me. It’s seemed so lopsided. I guess I have to give Luke more credit than I was. StG ---
**Author:** ![Jelymag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d2c977/32.png) [@Jelymag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jelymag)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-5-3-he-made-me-look-like-alice-cooper/495226/53 "2009-05-05T18:33:19Z")
I have some limited memories about the massacre at Tiananmen Square, having been relatively young, but I sure know what happened there. Other than Tammy and Victor, the only person I noticed making any connection to the name was Margie. Luke may have recognized it, but there’s no way to tell. It seemed completely foreign to Cara and Jamie, and it didn’t seem like Kisha and Jen recognized it either. Pretty sad. I missed the entire first half of the season, so it is interesting to see how some of my impressions differ from most of the other posters here. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-5-3-he-made-me-look-like-alice-cooper/495226.md?page=2)