# Amazing Race Family 11/22 - "How's That Face Feel?"

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 22, 2005, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-family-11-22-hows-that-face-feel/332278 "2005-11-22T17:51:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-family-11-22-hows-that-face-feel/332278/61 "2005-11-23T17:19:50Z")

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> [@Draelin](#):
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> I honestly can’t wait to see some sort of interview with these people _after_ they see why everybody hates them so much. And I seriously hope the _effing Weaver girls_ are sitting at home on Tuesday nights as horrified at their own choice of wardrobe as we are.

I don’t think it’s possible to convince the Weavers how horrible they are by any means, no matter how obvious it is to us. Remember, these are people who have convinced themselves that anyone outside their circle is NOT to be trusted…ever. Showing them a montage of their rude, classless behavior will only convince them of how evil and untrustworthy _everyone else is._ Never underestimate the Christian mind’s ability to deceive itself! You’d have better luck convincing James Randi that psychic powers actually exist. 🆒

> [@BiblioCat](#):
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> I was kind of hoping Phil would call them on the rudness remarks, and ask exactly why they think no one likes them, and ask about the food-throwing incident.

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again…it’s not Phil’s job to pass judgment on any contestant’s behavior. Quite the opposite, in fact. That’s the role of a game show host, to treat all contestants equally, the nice ones and the nasty ones alike. The only time he’s crossed that line was when a player was WAY out of bounds – Jonathan in Berlin, obviously, and (to a lesser extent) Rob & Amber when they didn’t stop at Brian & Greg’s car accident.

> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Bart the Bear is a big movie star bear. The exact titles of his filmography escape me at the moment, though.

Oh dear! I looked up [Bart the Bear’s](http://us.imdb.com/name/nm1212069/) profile on IMDB and apparently this Bart was _not_ the same animal who had such memorable roles in _L’Ours_, _White Fang_, _Legends of the Fall_, and _The Edge_ – the original [Bart the Bear](http://us.imdb.com/name/nm1075976/) died five years ago. ☹ ☹

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**Author:** ![The\_Big\_Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@The\_Big\_Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Big_Cheese)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-family-11-22-hows-that-face-feel/332278/62 "2005-11-23T17:37:09Z")

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> [@KGS](#):
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> IOh dear! I looked up [Bart the Bear’s](http://us.imdb.com/name/nm1212069/) profile on IMDB and apparently this Bart was _not_ the same animal who had such memorable roles in _L’Ours_, _White Fang_, _Legends of the Fall_, and _The Edge_ – the original [Bart the Bear](http://us.imdb.com/name/nm1075976/) died five years ago. ☹ ☹

I love the filmography section…

**An Unfinished Life (2005) … Bear  
Without a Paddle (2004) … Bear  
Dr. Dolittle 2 (2001) …Boy Bear Cub**

Boy, I hope he doesn’t get typecast. :dubious: Branch out, Bear, branch out!

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-family-11-22-hows-that-face-feel/332278/63 "2005-11-23T17:49:44Z")

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I managed to crack **supervenusfreak** up last night. When the Weavers came around the corner of the house and saw the bear, I said, “Sir, my husband was killed by a bear. Can you please be compassionate to me?”

Yeah, it was funnier then. 😛

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**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-family-11-22-hows-that-face-feel/332278/64 "2005-11-23T18:00:19Z")

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Well, I was pretty stunned when they were whining that this was the worst day of their life…um, didn’t their dad die? Wouldn’t _that_ be the worst day of their life?

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**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-family-11-22-hows-that-face-feel/332278/65 "2005-11-23T18:36:24Z")

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> [@Psycho Pirate](#):
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> Also, the kids are young, so some of this rudeness we are seeing from them is typical teenager bad attitude.

I would buy that, except it’s worse than normal. Seriously, I’m as snarky as they come, and I was an unholy handful when I was a teenager (not that much has changed). **BUT.** My parents would have _slapped the snot out of me_ if I ever said some of the things the Weaver kids do. And their mother is even _worse._

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-family-11-22-hows-that-face-feel/332278/66 "2005-11-23T19:14:26Z")

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If the Weavers win, I will refuse to watch TAR ever again.

okay, until next season, anyway

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-family-11-22-hows-that-face-feel/332278/67 "2005-11-23T19:56:11Z")

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Is the family edition a race around the world? I noticed last night Phil said “Amazing Race” instead of “a race around the world” during his standard introduction.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-family-11-22-hows-that-face-feel/332278/68 "2005-11-23T20:01:31Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Is the family edition a race around the world? I noticed last night Phil said “Amazing Race” instead of “a race around the world” during his standard introduction.

No (and with only 2 episodes left, it’d be hard to do, now). They’ll probably wind up on the West Coast somewhere.

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**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-family-11-22-hows-that-face-feel/332278/69 "2005-11-23T22:04:43Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> No (and with only 2 episodes left, it’d be hard to do, now). They’ll probably wind up on the West Coast somewhere.

I’ve heard rumours of where the finish line is. If there is any kind of popular demand, I’ll post what I’ve heard (in a spoiler box, of course).

OK, I’ve seen the episode, and most of what was worth saying has already been said, so I’ll just make some random comments, based on these notes here that my cat Owen “helped” me write. Anything which follows and doesn’t make sense is Owen’s fault.

> [@Rachel Weaver](#):
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> The people who will will probably spend [the million dollar prize] on a new nose and bigger boobs.

How are those sour grapes, sweetheart? Would you like a little cheese with that whine? And would it make you feel any better to know that if I had $1000000 I’d be rich – and you and your family _would still be the biggest boobs on the face of the planet?_

I really think we need to strap the Weaver clan into some chairs somewhere, prop their eyelids open with toothpicks, and force them to read the SDMB for a good long while, because they are the poster children for ignorance run wild. Ma Weaver said it is “so against our beliefs to be treated so rudely” (paraphrased) – what the _hell_ does that even _mean?_ They don’t believe that rude behavior exists in the world? What is the weather like on their home planet? _Don’t they know that this show was going to be televised?_ They are stupidship.

What makes them the “underdogs,” anyway? The Blacks and the Gaghans were underdogs, because they had little kids. The Paolos were underdogs, because they had DJ. But there is _nothing_ about the Weavers (except their own rabid xenophobic persecution complex) that makes them underdogs. Plus: _ **nobody is cheering for you, you dolts!** _ The team playing the Yankees are the underdogs. You, Weavers, are the _ **Yankees** _.

Also … Christine Godlewski can control her talking like I can control my **Mountain Dew** consumption. See you at the 12-step meeting, sis!

And finally, Megan Linz has a really cute butt. And I say that as a hetero female. I would kill kittens for an ass like that. _Damn._ Guess we know what she won’t have to spend her share of the million on, don’t we?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-family-11-22-hows-that-face-feel/332278/70 "2005-11-23T22:07:11Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> No (and with only 2 episodes left, it’d be hard to do, now). They’ll probably wind up on the West Coast somewhere.

I could have sworn that at the beginning, though, they said all the competitors will race around the world. Did they change it mid-way perhaps?

I know this is a bit off-topic, but it seems a little lame that they haven’t traveled to a lot of countries where they are the foreigners. Part of the fun is seeing them struggle in other areas of the world.

Am I alone in this?

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**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-family-11-22-hows-that-face-feel/332278/71 "2005-11-23T22:13:16Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I know this is a bit off-topic, but it seems a little lame that they haven’t traveled to a lot of countries where they are the foreigners. Part of the fun is seeing them struggle in other areas of the world.

I do like that, but I think this time around they had to take into consideration that Wee Carissa would get kidnapped from a third world marketplace and sold into slavery. Plus, with kids along, you’re better off driving to let them sleep, I suppose.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-family-11-22-hows-that-face-feel/332278/72 "2005-11-23T22:21:43Z")

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I think we (here on this board & thread) all pretty much agree that cutting the race down geographically makes it less interesting; but it might have been necessary.

Speaking of lame…in all the Weaver-bashing, no one has noticed that last night’s leg was the worst ever, in terms of difficulty and competitiveness. One detour: Easy-Scary-Fast or Easy-NotScary-Slow. One roadblock that took 30 seconds to complete. It was basically just “how fast can you drive from Lake Powell to SLC”.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-family-11-22-hows-that-face-feel/332278/73 "2005-11-23T22:25:05Z")

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> [@rockle](#):
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> They are stupidship.

_snerk_

> [@rockle](#):
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> but I think this time around they had to take into consideration that Wee Carissa would get kidnapped from a third world marketplace and sold into slavery.

Oh, please. They’d never even catch 7-Minute-Mile Carissa. The best they could hope for is to grab Billy and play out _The Ransom of Red Chief_ in realtime…

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-family-11-22-hows-that-face-feel/332278/74 "2005-11-23T22:26:09Z")

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_sigh_ The last quote wasn’t **rockle** , but **Draelin**. Yinz need to start picking different Reality TV Boyfriends from the other…I’m starting to confuse you.

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-family-11-22-hows-that-face-feel/332278/75 "2005-11-23T22:31:44Z")

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> [@Psycho Pirate](#):
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> I find it interesting that there is so much hatred put toward the Weaver’s in these threads, to the point that those who are complaining about them are acting much more cruel and evil than the Weaver’s ever did. \<snip\> But we sure are judging them here, aren’t we, so are we any better? Also, the kids are young, so some of this rudeness we are seeing from them is typical teenager bad attitude.

I struggle with my own judging of them at times, but then…I never claimed otherwise. The point to me is that they are so hypocritical, and so lacking in insight as to **why** people might take issue with them. The others are being rude to them because of behavior that the Weavers exhibited first…and then they cry victim AND cry Christian, and I think it’s all a bunch of self-serving bullshit. Also, they have put themselves out there on national TV, and like it or not, you’re going to be judged there.

> [@jayjay](#):
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> I managed to crack supervenusfreak up last night. When the Weavers came around the corner of the house and saw the bear, I said, “Sir, my husband was killed by a bear. Can you please be compassionate to me?”
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> Yeah, it was funnier then.

But not as funny as when I said nearly the exact thing to my husband while watching!

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**Author:** ![The\_Big\_Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@The\_Big\_Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Big_Cheese)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2005, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-family-11-22-hows-that-face-feel/332278/76 "2005-11-23T22:36:29Z")

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If you’ve ever flown to Europe from the US, you’d know how tired you get. Imagine how tired Wee Carissa and the Black kids would get. Not only are you tired, but your clock is so f\*\*\*\*\* up. That would be an extreme disadvantage for teams w/kids.

Plus, can you imagine a kid having to eat gulyas in Hungary, or anything else that doesn’t come in a box for dinner? But it would be interesting to see the Paolas in Bulgaria or China. Man, they’d set US diplomacy back years.  
Hungary, that reminds me…Utah greeter, Miss Utah (didn’t look Latin to me). ummmm…A+. Plus she wasn’t scared of any of those teams, unlike past greeters.

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**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2005, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-family-11-22-hows-that-face-feel/332278/77 "2005-11-24T00:04:22Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> _sigh_ The last quote wasn’t **rockle** , but **Draelin**. Yinz need to start picking different Reality TV Boyfriends from the other…I’m starting to confuse you.

Yinz … heh! I love Pennsylvania Dutch accents. BTW, The Husband and I were just in Lancaster over the weekend. Outlet shopping. Damn New Yorkers! Anyway … did you hear me yelling “Hi **jayjay** and **supervenusfreak**!” out the window? It’s Fuddrucker’s fault. I blame the cheeseburgers.

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**Author:** ![The\_Big\_Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@The\_Big\_Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Big_Cheese)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2005, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-family-11-22-hows-that-face-feel/332278/78 "2005-11-24T00:14:02Z")

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I’m so glad I leave for the gym at 5:30am!

_Now, the two-time runner-up on “Survivor: All Stars” and “The Amazing Race” (and the husband of “All Stars” winner Amber Bkrich) has joined The Early Show as “Rob to the Rescue,” a series in which the former reality star will help our viewers deal with real-life problems. His first assignment: Help a horse lover in Michigan_  
[http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/11/22/earlyshow/series/main1065685.shtml](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/11/22/earlyshow/series/main1065685.shtml)

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2005, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-family-11-22-hows-that-face-feel/332278/79 "2005-11-24T00:17:44Z")

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> [@rockle](#):
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> Yinz … heh! I love Pennsylvania Dutch accents. BTW, The Husband and I were just in Lancaster over the weekend. Outlet shopping. Damn New Yorkers! Anyway … did you hear me yelling “Hi **jayjay** and **supervenusfreak**!” out the window? It’s Fuddrucker’s fault. I blame the cheeseburgers.

I thought I heard something! Only it sounded like “I’m putting you in the will, **jayjay** and **supervenusfreak**.” If that was accurate, you just keep eatin’ those Fuddruckers cheeseburgers, hon!

And “yinz” isn’t PA Dutch. It’s Piksburghian. The Stiller City area of influence includes Altoona, where I grew up. 🙂

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**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2005, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-family-11-22-hows-that-face-feel/332278/80 "2005-11-24T00:49:02Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> I thought I heard something! Only it sounded like “I’m putting you in the will, **jayjay** and **supervenusfreak**.” If that was accurate, you just keep eatin’ those Fuddruckers cheeseburgers, hon!
> 
> And “yinz” isn’t PA Dutch. It’s Piksburghian. The Stiller City area of influence includes Altoona, where I grew up. 🙂

Heh. You’ll have to fight my husband for the insurance money, but I’ll get to work on that codicil _toot sweet_. 😉 And “yinz” is Pittsburghese? My family says that, and they’re Dutchies … they also say “oy” and “crick” and eat scrapple pretty regularly, though, so maybe they’re just weird? Anyway … big ups to Altoona! I actually visited there while The Husband was at Penn State. Although, in all honesty, I’m not entirely sure why. It’s not like there isn’t beer on College Avenue …

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