# Amazing Race Season Debut - Delays?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 25, 2011, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550 "2011-09-25T14:08:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550/81 "2011-09-28T13:32:52Z")

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Great job on the Rickshaw Assessment, **tumbledown**!

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550/82 "2011-09-28T15:10:34Z")

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> [@tumbleddown](#):
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> The Rickshaw Assessment (upgraded to a taxicab when I’m not a newb) complete with links to CBS bios for reference…
> 
> **Ox Status: Broken**
> 
> - Philiminated with an extreme eyebrowing
> 
> **Unrolling Hay Bales in Sweden**
> 
> - they’re trying but they’re just not getting it
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> \*\*Duct Taping the Bumper  
> \*\*- things don’t look good, but they _may_ eke out some improvement
> 
> **Andale, s’il vous plait, xie xie!**
> 
> - some bumbling and fumbling, but not terribly at risk _yet_
> 
> **Our Driver is Awesome!**
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> - ahead of the pack, for now
> 
> **Carried all the Heavy Stuff & Ate All the Cheese**
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> - nothing can stop them but themselves

Oh, very nice!

BTW, are you willing to do the ratings for the whole season?

If not, should we do some sort of ‘signup by weeks’ to avoid wasted efforts/possible hurt feelings?

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**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550/83 "2011-09-28T17:58:07Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> BTW, are you willing to do the ratings for the whole season?

If people like 'em, I’ll do 'em. I tried to give it my own little flair. 🙂

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**Author:** ![kiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@kiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiz)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550/84 "2011-09-28T18:22:00Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> If not, should we do some sort of ‘signup by weeks’ to avoid wasted efforts/possible hurt feelings?

I mentioned that upthread, but nobody replied ☹

I have no problem if **tumbleddown** wants to do all of them, but if for whatever reason s/he has to miss an episode, we should at least have a list somewhere of people who can fill in…

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550/85 "2011-09-28T18:41:37Z")

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> [@zut](#):
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> As I recall, there have been a couple different, but related, objections to celebrity-type teams. One is “people who _already_ are rich shouldn’t be racing for a million bucks” and the other is “I’d rather see real people instead of recycled celebrities on the Race.” Although I don’t necessarily disagree with either, I think the premise here is that celebrity teams attract viewers, and viewers mean ratings, and ratings mean renewal of the show for another season. In that case, I’d rather have a couple celebrity teams on TAR than no TAR at all.
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> Too, there’s the question of what exactly constitutes a celebrity team. Early seasons of TAR had a pretty healthy sprinkling of SoCal wanna-be actresses and models; though not celebrities per se, neither were these teams “everyman” teams. Globetrotters are sort of celebrities, but personally more anonymous than, say, Survivor winners.

TAR has won so many awards that I don’t really see that it’s necessary to go with celebrities in order to ensure renewal, but I guess I understand the sentiment. And your point that there’s no final word on what constitutes a celebrity is a good one.

I like the new ratings, too, but would also be happy to serve as an alternate. 🙂

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550/86 "2011-09-28T18:59:17Z")

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Very nice, **tumbledown**.

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**Author:** ![kiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@kiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiz)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550/87 "2011-09-28T19:07:51Z")

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> [@lorene](#):
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> I like the new ratings, too, but would also be happy to serve as an alternate. 🙂

Me too 🙂

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550/88 "2011-09-28T19:40:51Z")

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I DVR’d the ep on Monday and watched last night.

First, I noticed that at the first task, the part where Phil explained the Hazard penalty was obviously dubbed in. His voice sounded different, and the video during that bit was shot from behind him so you couldn’t see his lips were not in sync. Every other mention of the Hazard was done in voice-over. Did the showgirls ever get any kind of special clue labeled “Hazard” or say anything about having to do an extra, special task? The whole thing just seemed out of place.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550/89 "2011-09-28T20:32:07Z")

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WARNING: Cynicism Ahead!

> [@lorene](#):
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> TAR has won so many awards that I don’t really see that it’s necessary to go with celebrities in order to ensure renewal, but I guess I understand the sentiment.

Like any business, CBS answers to the needs of its customers. You are not their customer. The people who pay money to get their commercials shown are. You are the product that CBS sells.

In other words, awards don’t mean jack. Advertisers want their messages to play in front of an audience, and the more disposable income they have, the better. Warm bodies in front of the televisions will get a show renewed, not awards.

That said, I’m not a fan of the stunt casting either. These people have had their moment in the limelight, and some have already grabbed the brass ring. And they’re taking up a valuable spot in the lineup that could have gone to me. That also said, the Globetrotters seemed like pretty decent guys and were hardly household names. Boston Rob was an ass.

I am also available for substitute Rickshaw Assessment duties.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550/90 "2011-09-29T00:34:55Z")

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Missed the show because the Steelers were on and didn’t DVR it because it was late and I tape something else at 9 so I sat down today to watch it on On Demand…Helpful hint I just learned, TAR isn’t on Comcast On Demand, at least not yet.

Hulu was nice enough to point me to CBS’ site where I got to watch the episode in a postage stamp sized window.

At least I got to see it though. I liked the idea of it being Non elimination. Let’s the teams spend a little more time on the race and I was also confused by the opening task as I assumed they had to figure it out and not just find the right umbrella.

Not sure who I like but I am pretty sure Mr. Test Drive my Girlfriend will be a Douche Bag.

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**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550/91 "2011-09-29T18:18:04Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Hulu was nice enough to point me to CBS’ site where I got to watch the episode in a postage stamp sized window.

The window isn’t quite so wee if you have access to a mobile device. The CBS app for iPad gives full screen video.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550/92 "2011-09-30T00:53:31Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Hulu was nice enough to point me to CBS’ site where I got to watch the episode in a postage stamp sized window.

Yeah, I quickly discovered last season that CBS probably have the worst online video of any network. Especially when you get to the ads that knock you out of full screen.

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**Author:** ![adhemar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@adhemar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhemar)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550/93 "2011-10-02T22:19:15Z")

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there is usually a liitle button the bpttom of the screen on the CBS website to enlarge the picture.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550/94 "2011-10-02T23:21:08Z")

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> [@adhemar](#):
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> there is usually a liitle button the bpttom of the screen on the CBS website to enlarge the picture.

Yes but then it was like watching an Atari game because the resolution was poor.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550/95 "2011-10-02T23:25:46Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Yes but then it was like watching an Atari game because the resolution was poor.

Nah. Everybody was naked the whole episode, so it was all pixellated.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550/96 "2011-10-03T16:20:25Z")

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Just getting caught up due to a problem with DishTV so I know I’m a week or 2 behind.

What happened to the 12 hour rest period? The lead team left at 9:13pm for the second leg and I know they did not get in at 9:13am. As soon as I saw that, I knew everyone would be on the same flight. I know they have artificial bunching points but to wipe out a 6 hour difference by playing loose with the rest period time is BS.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550/97 "2011-10-03T16:29:24Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Just getting caught up due to a problem with DishTV so I know I’m a week or 2 behind.
> 
> What happened to the 12 hour rest period? The lead team left at 9:13pm for the second leg and I know they did not get in at 9:13am. As soon as I saw that, I knew everyone would be on the same flight. I know they have artificial bunching points but to wipe out a 6 hour difference by playing loose with the rest period time is BS.

I’m okay with their doing it this early in the game, while teams are still getting their feet under them.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550/98 "2011-10-03T16:54:39Z")

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Oops, didn’t realize this was the old thread. I’ll lock this to prevent further confusion.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550/99 "2011-10-05T10:20:57Z")

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Reopened after discussion.

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**Author:** ![JpnDude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@JpnDude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JpnDude)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550/100 "2011-10-14T06:04:31Z")

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A few weeks old does not zombie make…right?

Just wanted to point out that I was raised just a few miles from the starting point of this year’s race, the Hsi Lai Temple, in Hacienda Heights. In fact, my folks still live there. I think that the closest point TAR has come to my hometown.

How to get to LAX? “Take the 60, to the 605.” …to the 105 (unheard)

YAY!

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