# Amazon Lord of the Rings series; The Rings of Power **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** middle-earth, amazon-prime, tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [March 3, 2019, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497 "2019-03-03T20:01:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/622 "2022-09-12T01:51:20Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > I dinna know SD had “cake days” The cake slice is an anniversary on the board, the full cake is a birthday. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/623 "2022-09-12T02:53:48Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > And they mentioned that the west side of the island was off-limits or something? Elendil said to Isildur something like “there is nothing for us on the western side of Numenor any more!” I suppose I could go through and find the exact wording, but I think that’s pretty close. I had no idea what he was talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/624 "2022-09-12T03:16:51Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > Actually, only the elf that seems to have any special abilities is Arondir. He had the great leap and bringing down the roof on the Orcs scene. Then again, he had to scramble up the tree roots trying to escape. I think you forgot about when Galadriel went to Hoth and murdered a Wampa. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLZtpd3dvrE) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/625 "2022-09-12T03:32:15Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Elendil said to Isildur something like “there is nothing for us on the western side of Numenor any more!” I suppose I could go through and find the exact wording, but I think that’s pretty close. I had no idea what he was talking about. The impression I got is that the culture of west Numenor is more elf-friendly than the capital and, as such, it’s politically unpopular and there are fewer opportunities for advancement there. Like living in the South immediately after the end of the Civil War, or being a Catholic in England in the 18th century. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/626 "2022-09-12T04:47:56Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > Except that these are Noldor not Sylvan elves, I think they would chop down a tree or two when building their cities (Nevrast, Gondolin, etc) Do we know that they’re Noldor, and not Sindar (which is not exactly the same as Sylvan elves)? ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/627 "2022-09-12T06:51:35Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I think you forgot about when Galadriel went to Hoth and murdered a Wampa. You’re right, I totally forgot about that. 🙂 That’s a bit more like a warrior-elf. It seems like since Galadriel jumped ship, everything that has happened in her story was by chance rather than design. She lucks onto the raft, raft sinks and she ends up with a king, found by ship that happens to have a captain that’s elf friendly, said captain can take her to a place that has all kinds of info she needs. All with no planning on her part. Happy Birthday, @What_Exit! What are you, pushing 80 now? You don’t look a day over 65. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/628 "2022-09-12T08:52:08Z")
> [@Tfletch1](#): > > I think that white-haired, white-eyed dude i [Not a dude.](https://www.gettyimages.no/search/2/image?family=editorial&phrase=%20Bridie%20Sisson) ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/629 "2022-09-12T15:51:37Z")
Well I’ve tried - 3 episodes and it’s not for me. I was trying to explain it and I guess the closest is when I’m expecting to enjoy a certain piece of music. I’m anticipating rumbling bass notes or changes in tempo and what I wind up hearing is “almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea”. 🙂 The notes stumble, or don’t exist, or are half a step too high. It’s just off. Maybe I’ll wander back to it later on and see if it finds its footing. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/630 "2022-09-12T21:55:29Z")
Just logging my entries for the character-prediction pool. What’s the prize, by the way? 🙂 The Stranger: Gandalf. His arrival – in both manner and time-frame - is non-canonical, but I can deal with it. Haldar: will turn out to be heroic in some fashion but does not correlate to any canonical character. Adar: Sauron. ---
**Author:** ![Jebbilene](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jebbilene/32/3414_2.png) [@Jebbilene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jebbilene)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/631 "2022-09-13T01:21:29Z")
Yeah, to me they missed the point of that name, which elegantly combines something beautiful and exotic Sam encountered on his travels with traditional Hobbit naming practices. It’s like they had a big list of hobbit names and grabbed one they liked, and then nick-named the character to give it a bit of a twist, not realising that it was then the same as a dwarf name. So it’s a bit messy, but it is still just a minor thing for me. I can’t hear ‘nori’ without thinking of the Japanese seaweed anyway, so I’m trying not to think about it too hard. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/632 "2022-09-13T02:03:30Z")
> [@Jebbilene](#): > > . I can’t hear ‘nori’ without thinking of the Japanese seaweed anyway, Same. 😉 But that seems suitable for snail-eating proto-hobbits. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/633 "2022-09-13T02:24:47Z")
Is everyone on Arda a dick? This show has given us no one whom we can really root for. - Commander Galadriel - A dick who causes her own troops to mutiny. - Gil-galad - “Peace in our time!” King Dick. - Elrond - Knows the king is a dick yet goes along with him anyway. - Harfoots - Short dicks who leave behind those who can’t keep up. - Númenor - An entire island of dicks (but that’s canon). The jury’s still out on Elendil, but the way he treats his daughter shows some tendency to dickery. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/634 "2022-09-13T02:47:53Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > s everyone on Arda a dick? Arondir hasn’t displayed any particular dickery. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/635 "2022-09-13T03:07:42Z")
He ditched all the people who had been clinging to the flotsam with him. Oops, that’s Haldar. Yeah, Arondir seems decent. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/636 "2022-09-13T03:25:11Z")
You guys mean Halbrand? By the way, we don’t know how he got separated from the others on the raft, that part wasn’t shown. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/637 "2022-09-13T04:10:52Z")
One assumes from your moniker that you enjoyed The Book of the New Sun? Who did you root for there? 🙂 Anyway I’m rooting for Nori and her dad. Arondir has been fine so far as was Bronwyn for the little we’ve seen her. Halbrand is being set up to be a reluctant hero. Elendil seems fine. Harfoot culture is harsh perhaps, but they live in a harsh world. The group simply will not risk the survival of the group by allowing itself to be slowed down helping anyone who cannot pull their own wagon. There are wolves and more that they are avoiding by keeping to their paths and schedules. Their way is harsh but it has kept the group alive a long time. Not sure Elrond knows the king is wrong. Was a dick though to his friend Durin, not checking in for decades until he needed something from him. Durin’s wife is lovely. But yeah, Galadriel is not so wise yet. Thank The One (literally) for anything involving her that is not a disaster so far. Better lucky than good? She’s basically an arrogant Mr Magoo so far. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/638 "2022-09-13T05:32:33Z")
OK, Arondir seems a decent sort. > [@DSeid](#): > > One assumes from your moniker that you enjoyed The Book of the New Sun? Who did you root for there? 🙂 The sword, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/639 "2022-09-13T05:47:40Z")
Arondir is the real hero of this show. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/640 "2022-09-13T06:08:00Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > By the way, we don’t know how he got separated from the others on the raft, that part wasn’t shown. No, he’s explicitly shown untying his part of the raft, and shoving off. > [@DSeid](#): > > [Elrond] Was a dick though to his friend Durin, not checking in for decades until he needed something from him. It’s made pretty clear that he didn’t consider it more than an eyeblink of separation. I don’t think it makes him a dick, just inconsiderate, and I doubt he’d repeat the mistake. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/641 "2022-09-13T06:33:30Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > It’s made pretty clear that he didn’t consider it more than an eyeblink of separation. I don’t think it makes him a dick, just inconsiderate, and I doubt he’d repeat the mistake. He also seemed genuinely sorry about it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497.md?page=33)