# Amazon Lord of the Rings series; The Rings of Power **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** middle-earth, amazon-prime, tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [March 3, 2019, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497 "2019-03-03T20:01:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 39
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/763 "2022-09-19T21:34:46Z")
That’s a little better for him. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/764 "2022-09-20T13:15:22Z")
Another question: What happened to the attendants on Galadriel’s boat trip? Did they get a free trip, or sail it back? Were the veils meant to hide their eyes from the “heavenly” light? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/765 "2022-09-20T15:09:00Z")
The canon answer: there was no reason the ship couldn’t return, although ships sailing from Valinor to Middle Earth were uncommon. In the Second Age elven ships commonly sailed back and forth from Valinor to Numenor - which is how Numenor got its lofty status in wisdom and technology - until relationships between Elves and Numenoreans soured. But there was no technical reason why a ship couldn’t return from Valinor to mortal realms. Now, how the show runners envision it is anyone’s guess. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/766 "2022-09-20T17:18:02Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > What happened to the attendants on Galadriel’s boat trip? Did they get a free trip, or sail it back? By the way things were staged, it didn’t _look_ like they were Valinor-bound. Like the soldiers were being specially … sanctified? > [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Were the veils meant to hide their eyes from the “heavenly” light? They were veiled (or, at least, there were veiled attendants) in the court at Lindon, too. ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/767 "2022-09-20T17:25:58Z")
> [@susan](#): > > I’m watching with my lovely wife, who’s seen the LOTR films but not read the books. > > Me: Now that you know “mithril” is “grey glitter,” then Gandalf the Grey–" > > Wife: Mithrandir! Mithrandir! Awww. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/768 "2022-09-21T10:22:19Z")
[![](https://i.redd.it/uv4qftnq16p91.jpg) ](https://i.redd.it/uv4qftnq16p91.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/769 "2022-09-21T12:17:09Z")
Err, off topic, but wth is supposed to happen to that man? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/770 "2022-09-21T12:26:27Z")
Of that, I have no idea. Express flight to the Halls of Mandos? ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/771 "2022-09-21T13:30:20Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Err, off topic, but wth is supposed to happen to that man? > [@Smapti](#): > > Of that, I have no idea. Express flight to the Halls of Mandos? Someone is holding his beer, so I’m sure everything will be fine. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/772 "2022-09-21T14:14:31Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Err, off topic, but wth is supposed to happen to that man? I’ve seen these videos. He is strapped to that slingshot, so he’s going to oscillate back-and-forth wildly for a few moments and then be left hanging in the air. ETA: here’s an example. I strongly, strongly recommend turning off the sound. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/y_wkQBDDgvI/maxresdefault.jpg "The Human Slingshot") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_wkQBDDgvI) ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/773 "2022-09-21T14:17:49Z")
That’s how they turned the elves into orcs. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/774 "2022-09-21T14:22:55Z")
The Forbes articles upthread helped to codify a lot of issues for me. I went in hoping that I would be enthralled, but so far really haven’t been able to really connect with the material, even though I am by nature strongly favorable to the high fantasy milieu. The usual process for me has typically gone “Blown away by the visuals/get my hopes up/watch a dialogue-heavy scene/get pushed out of the narrative.” At this point all I can hope for is that the show Grows the Beard sometime in season 2 and the material starts to truly shine, and not drag. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/775 "2022-09-21T14:29:44Z")
Thanks! Happy to see that isn’t a scene from a snuff film. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/776 "2022-09-22T07:53:19Z")
Like The Hobbitt series, there are a few famous scenes they surely can hang their hats on. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/777 "2022-09-22T12:26:10Z")
I haven’t watched yet. I may commit but reading the reviews and what people have written here I doubt it is for me. TLOTR took a reasonably simple story and a minimal cast of characters and managed to fill 9+ hours just nicely. What I was concerned about is that this would be too complicated and tries to do far too much with the time allocated to it and judging by the conversations happening in this thread that seems to be the case. For TLOTR the story was “destroy the ring” and everything hung on that. Is there a similar description for this series? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/778 "2022-09-22T13:10:15Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > For TLOTR the story was “destroy the ring” and everything hung on that. Is there a similar description for this series? In a way. Here, you basically know the end - rings forged, big war, Isildur cuts of Sauron’s finger - so the whole series is basically, how do we get there? Right now it isn’t really coming into focus yet, though. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/779 "2022-09-22T13:32:32Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > In a way. Here, you basically know the end - rings forged, big war, Isildur cuts of Sauron’s finger - so the whole series is basically, how do we get there? Right now it isn’t really coming into focus yet, though. I think that may the thing that’s putting me off. That’s a hell of a lot or narrative and temporal ground to cover and can that be done without feeling rushed or complicated and while maintaining a solid narrative? The comments on this thread don’t fill me with confidence. It seems like a big challenge ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/780 "2022-09-22T13:35:45Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > That’s a hell of a lot or narrative and temporal ground to cover and can that be done without feeling rushed or complicated and while maintaining a solid narrative I mean, say 5 seasons, 8 episodes per season… sure it’s a lot of ground to cover, but not so much that it can’t be done in 40 hours of television. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/781 "2022-09-22T13:38:51Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I mean, say 5 seasons, 8 episodes per season… sure it’s a lot of ground to cover, but not so much that it can’t be done in 40 hours of television. Sure, but I guess it is more _how_ it is done rather than _whether_ it can be done. Is trying to cram everything in early on the way the go? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/782 "2022-09-22T13:55:06Z")
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