# Amazon Lord of the Rings series; The Rings of Power

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, middle-earth, amazon-prime\
**Created:** [March 3, 2019, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497 "2019-03-03T20:01:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1643 "2024-05-29T23:46:47Z")

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This Rory Kinnear fella seems like a good choice, anyway.

> **[Rory Kinnear](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rory_Kinnear)**
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> Rory Michael Kinnear (born 17 February 1978) is an English actor. He won two Olivier Awards, both at the National Theatre, in 2008 for his portrayal of Sir Fopling Flutter in The Man of Mode, and for playing the William Shakespeare villain Iago in Othello in 2014.
> He played Bill Tanner in four James Bond films: Quantum of Solace (2008), Skyfall (2012), Spectre (2015) and No Time to Die (2021), and in various video games of the franchise. His other film roles include Broken (2012), for which h...

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**Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1644 "2024-05-30T10:51:02Z")

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Ugh. Sorry, Tom was a Bomb-baddil in my book (so to speak).

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1645 "2024-05-30T13:15:37Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> > …along with his jolly songs and his flamboyant wardrobe
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> Oh shit.

I hope that picture in the article isn’t accurate. If his jacket isn’t a vivid azure and his boots aren’t a bright canary yellow, I’m going to be pissed. It’s right in his theme song for Eru’s sake.

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**Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1646 "2024-06-16T06:05:23Z")

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I have zero faith that the writers will not low-brow their way into an “Inaction is compliance/ neutrality is support for evil” argument…with TOM BOMBADIL.

You may as well be lecturing the wind. And then they’ll have him either explain it to them in third grade terms or some mumbo-jumbo like “The sea is always right” or “Why ships float and rocks sink”

Neither is acceptable.Or profound.

Why don’t they have Galadriel Spitz swim over to tell off Eru Illuvatar and complain about the patriarchy.

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**Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1647 "2024-06-21T18:13:16Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Jack Black, this is your chance!

In all sincerity, Jack Black would be the perfect casting choice for that character in every way, for both good and bad. Tolkien might as well have written that character with Jack Black as inspiration.

Dammit, if I re-read _The Fellowship of the Ring_ it will be impossible to not read that character’s dialog in Jack Black’s voice.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2024, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1648 "2024-07-02T16:27:46Z")

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Instead of Galadriel, season two is going to focus more on Celebrimbor. I guess it has to, given the creation of the rings, but I found him completely uninteresting in the first season. Still, I will watch. (Also, ignore the Clickbait headline, they are not replacing Galadriel)

> **[The Rings of Power Season 2's Galadriel Replacement Puts The Show On The...](https://screenrant.com/lotr-rings-of-power-galadriel-replacement-celebrimbor-season-2-problem-avoid/)**
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> S2's Galadriel change will fix an S1 problem.

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**Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1649 "2024-07-04T17:34:30Z")

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When will season 2 drop?

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1650 "2024-07-04T18:56:55Z")

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August 29.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1651 "2024-07-05T11:14:03Z")

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I thought she did a decent job with the part anyway.

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**Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1652 "2024-07-05T11:52:18Z")

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I felt they made Galadriel a very un-Galadriel like mix of The pointyhaired boss and Zapp Branigan. The actress still made the character interesting. More interesting than the harfoots at least, though thats a low bar.

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1653 "2024-07-15T18:13:37Z")

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Agreed. And I’ll still watch S2, come what may.

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1654 "2024-07-26T23:14:01Z")

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FWIW:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/V9Vh2uYsre4/maxresdefault.jpg "Rings of Power - Season 2 Comic Con Trailer Reaction | Sauron Tricks Celebrimbor... Again?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Vh2uYsre4)

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1655 "2024-08-30T02:21:36Z")

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Apparently the first three episodes of season 2 dropped today! I’m going to start watching and will report later.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1656 "2024-08-30T02:25:17Z")

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We’re rewatching s1 eps 6-7-8 first.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1657 "2024-08-30T19:00:55Z")

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Apparently they recast Adar, the original actor didn’t want to return. Which is really weird in the first scene of S2E1, because it’s a different Sauron actor for plot purposes, but he is shortly replaced by the original actor.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1658 "2024-08-30T19:58:44Z")

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The makeup kind of smears the difference. They’re clearly different actors, but the character feels the same.

We’ve watched the first episode, still liking it.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1659 "2024-09-01T01:52:58Z")

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Anyone know when the next episodes are available?

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1660 "2024-09-01T05:25:40Z")

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Ok…ok…

ok…

Did that crown have magical Sauron killing properties? Gandalf fought several Nazgul for hours. He also fought a balrog for days. One does not simply stab Sauron in the head and kill him. Saruman died so easily because he was so diminished.

Without going into great detail, I largely disagree with most of the decisions made with the series to date…but (like The Acolyte) I don’t hate the notion of The Tragedy of Sauron. But the creators are fan-fic level writers who draw inspiration from shippers and things like Breaking Bad.

And don’t get me started on reducing Tom Bombadil to giving pep talks about things he’d hardly give a shit about. Thats like the wind giving a pep talk to the ocean. Tom is “Before.” He’s “Other.” He’s “First and probably last” I doubt he could be bothered to remember Saurons name if he even knew it in the first place,

Of course this is all IMHO. If you all like it…im glad for you.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1661 "2024-09-01T23:01:59Z")

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One other thing…NuBSG did the whole “Are the bad guys really bad and maybe WE’RE the bad guys” over 20 years ago. No one complained. There were complaints about gender-swapping\*, though I never heard any about race-swapping.

Also THEIR ‘Eru’ is a bit of a bastard.

- Those died quickly when it turned out the main complaint (Starbuck) was seen to be basically the same character, just female.

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**Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1662 "2024-09-03T09:44:13Z")

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> [@Pavelb1](#):
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> doubt he could be bothered to remember Saurons name if he even knew it in the first place,

What _is_ Sauron’s original name, anyway? I know Morgoth was originally Melkor.

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