# Amazon Lord of the Rings series; The Rings of Power **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, middle-earth, amazon-prime\ **Created:** [March 3, 2019, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497 "2019-03-03T20:01:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 84
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1663 "2024-09-03T10:33:35Z")
Mairon ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1664 "2024-09-03T22:03:51Z")
Mairon, Quenian for The Admirable One. Sauron is Quenian for The Abhorred or Abominable One. No one who values their life would ever address him as Sauron. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1665 "2024-09-03T22:16:52Z")
As I was checking to see if my memory was right on those translations (I was half right - I misremembered Mairon as The Beautiful One.), I found out Sauron is listed as a baby name on The Bump. That means someone out there actually named their child Sauron. ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1666 "2024-09-03T22:52:48Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > That means someone out there actually named their child Sauron. Hell, he posts here. Don’t you, @Sauron? ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2024, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1667 "2024-09-03T23:10:15Z")
Sure, Sauron 45 Hitler. ---
**Author:** ![Paintcharge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paintcharge/32/7946_2.png) [@Paintcharge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paintcharge)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1668 "2024-09-04T01:29:51Z")
Just watched s2 ep 1. Good grief was that a ponderous and dull slog. Frankly that was my feeling of the movies, too. I guess it’s just not my thing. Don’t mean to rain on anyone’s parade. I’ll just DNR. ---
**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1669 "2024-09-04T03:17:56Z")
You rang? ---
**Author:** ![XOldiesJock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ec9cab/32.png) [@XOldiesJock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XOldiesJock)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1670 "2024-09-04T12:19:59Z")
> [@Paintcharge](#): > > _Just watched s2 ep 1. Good grief was that a ponderous and dull slog._ I don’t think we made it through 15 minutes before both of us dozed off. It was better than Sominex. Not a good sign of things to come. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1671 "2024-09-04T13:45:43Z")
The first episode was slow. The next two were better. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1672 "2024-09-04T15:13:09Z")
I can do without baby orcs, but otherwise thought the first 3 were adequate. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1673 "2024-09-04T15:17:52Z")
The first episode is weird. Sauron dies and the elves destroy the three rings. That seemed like a kinda major plot change. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1674 "2024-09-04T15:58:38Z")
I don’t think you interpreted that correctly. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1675 "2024-09-04T16:18:42Z")
Both of the things i stated were undone by the end of the episode. But they were very disconcerting to watch. I’m watching the second one right now. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1676 "2024-09-04T18:21:48Z")
One of these days I’ll make a full thread about the problem with writers these days being that they write everything as “and then” while trying to obfuscate that with non-linear storytelling and mystery box crap. But everything I’ve heard about this show is that they are doing exactly that. ---
**Author:** ![FrenchDunadan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frenchdunadan/32/5449_2.png) [@FrenchDunadan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FrenchDunadan)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1677 "2024-09-04T18:36:23Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > That means someone out there actually named their child Sauron. Well, someone did name his enterprise.. > **[Sauron Industrie - Matériel de soudage polyéthylène et de réparation des...](https://www.sauron-industrie.com/)** ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1678 "2024-09-04T18:51:26Z")
Or what you name yourself after being bitten by a radioactive pterodactyls ( hate it when that happens) > **[Sauron (comics)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauron_(comics))** > > Sauron (/ˈsɔːrɒn/) is a supervillain appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. The character was created by writer Roy Thomas and artist Neal Adams, and made his first appearance in The X-Men #59 (August 1969). > Sauron is the alter ego of physician Dr. Karl Lykos. After being bitten by mutant pterodactyls, Lykos was transformed into an energy vampire, able to absorb the life force of others through touch. If Lykos absorbs the life force of mutants, he transforms into a humanoi... Brian ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1679 "2024-09-07T15:05:05Z")
From the literary thread: > [@LOTR: by what sorts of processes did Sauron reconstitute himself and his power after losing the Ring?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lotr-by-what-sorts-of-processes-did-sauron-reconstitute-himself-and-his-power-after-losing-the-ring/1006493/27): > > Just wondering if the OP was at all prompted by S2 Epi1 of _The Rings of Power_? Because there is a scene where Sauron reconstitutes himself from incorporeal form there and it was not at all what one would expect. Not like anything in anything I’ve ever read from Tolkien, but then nothing else in that show is either. Sauron the Shag Carpet is getting TONS of mockery right now across Da Webz, from those deepfake LotR characters on YT to long reddit threads. Of ALL the massively boneheaded moves the showrunners have made, this HAS to take the cake. I’d swear I was watching a parody if someone had told me about this “hilarious!” LotR series, with Sauron as a shambling shag carpet. Seems more like something Beetlejuice would pull off after being exorcised once again. Yet Poe’s Law style the showrunners were 100% sincere in thinking this was a good idea. [bad] Wow. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1680 "2024-09-09T18:07:50Z")
I’m up to date on season 2 now (through episode 4). A few thoughts so far: - It’s a little…_boring?_ Or maybe I’m just kind of dreading where it’s going with the pending enslavement of the dwarves and men with the rings. - Speaking of which, it seems clear that one of the future Nazgûl will be Theo. At least some of the men have to be characters we know, and a few of those must be tragic, so it was already looking likely. Arondir calling Theo “Lord of Pelargir” in Ep 4 seals it for me. - I never jumped on the Galadriel hate bandwagon as much as some others, so I’m starting from a different place. And so far in season 2, she’s the most interesting character in any scene that doesn’t have Durin and Disa. Maybe I’m seeing what I want to see, but I can start to see the first glimmers of her turning into the LoTR Galadriel. And the dynamic between her and Elrond is keeping my interest. - Bombadil isn’t half as annoying (so far) as I feared. He’s not Tolkien’s Bombadil, but my standards are low. Maybe he just looks good in comparison to how annoying the Stranger and Harfoots/Storrs are in that current storyline. - Sauron the Shag was terrible. The showrunners’ real error wasn’t in _how_ they showed his reconstitution, but in trying to show it at all. There just isn’t a good way to show that visually. There are better ways than a shag carpet, but no _good_ ways. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1681 "2024-09-09T18:54:50Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > but no _good_ ways I thought the dark wizard bring back his butterfly was particularly well done. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497/1682 "2024-09-09T19:39:28Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > maybe I’m just kind of dreading where it’s going with the pending enslavement of the dwarves It might relieve you to know (if you don’t already) that, in canon at any rate, the dwarves are never enslaved to Sauron by the rings. Their “worse” traits, such as greed for gold and other treasure, and stubbornness, become enhanced, but that’s their only response to the rings. This brings dwarves trouble, as dragons seem able to smell out their increasingly huge hoards of treasure and come to slaughter them and take their gold. My theory about why the rings don’t work as planned is that Sauron failed to account for the fact that the race of dwarves are unlike elves and men in that they were not created directly by Eru. They were created by Aule, and only later brought to life and given souls by Eru as an act of grace. But who knows what they will do in this series. Apparently anything goes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497.md?page=83) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-the-rings-of-power/830497.md?page=85)