# Amazon MGM takes creative reins of James Bond, ending an era of family control of 007 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [February 20, 2025, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588 "2025-02-20T18:34:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588/21 "2025-02-20T20:35:26Z")
Well Amazon will provide the budget to allow for some amazing production values. So there’s that. I think I’d look to the DC Batman universe for inspiration, specifically _The Penguin_. The franchise benefits by showing more of its universe, whether that universe is placed back in Cold War days or some version of current times. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588/22 "2025-02-20T20:40:28Z")
I think Bond is best served when they just ignore any kind of continuity between the films like they did back in the 1960-70s. Sure, same characters, but a clean slate at the start of each story. Heck, make it a practice to recast after every single film. Then we get the female Bond, Black Bond, Spider-Bond, Lego Bond… ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588/23 "2025-02-20T20:47:33Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > Then we get the female Bond, Black Bond, Spider-Bond, Lego Bond… _James Bond: Into the Bond-Verse_ ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588/24 "2025-02-20T20:58:43Z")
> [@iamatractorboy](#): > > I expect Bond to go the way of Disney-fied Marvel and Star Wars, ie. far too much and of varying quality Does Amazon have that as its track record? I mean I was not taken by its Lord of The Rings prequel, but they weren’t too much too fast. Just not characters I really cared about. ---
**Author:** ![Ms2001](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ms2001/32/18463_2.png) [@Ms2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms2001)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588/25 "2025-02-20T21:06:53Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > we re-invent Bond himself as a 2020s spy and persona ```auto Bond: aight, i get it, dripfinger thx for the ted talk 🙄 Dripfinger: watch ur mouth, bond, that next joke might be ur last two l's already, i ain't tryna make it three we done here, gn bond 💀 Bond: u think im finna spill? Dripfinger: nah bond, im just tryna catch u lackin 💀 ``` ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588/26 "2025-02-20T21:20:05Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > How about a James Bond origin story, set during his school days? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/yRbhi-gWrKQ/maxresdefault.jpg "Archer - The Best Archer Growing Up Scenes") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRbhi-gWrKQ) Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588/27 "2025-02-20T21:25:08Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Wasn’t that the TOMORROW NEVER DIES plot? Which was basically a retooling of _You Only Live Twice_ (with a little dose of _The Spy Who Loves Me_) which itself was just a high budget version of _Dr. No_. There are basically only three or maybe four Bond plots. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588/28 "2025-02-20T22:44:57Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > Then we get the female Bond, Black Bond, Spider-Bond, Lego Bond… …Noir Bond (B&W), Pavitr Bind from never-became-independent India, Moneypenny Bond from then universe where Bond died, reverse vampire Bond… ---
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588/29 "2025-02-20T23:26:08Z")
US makes serious moves to annex Canada. Britain does not make much of a fuss or protest. M, who spent a couple of wonderful, formative years in Canada, acting without orders from or knowledge of their political masters, sends in Bond to straighten the Americans out. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588/30 "2025-02-21T00:22:04Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > 2.) Go beyond Bond to see where the double O section goes after his passing. Ah, but does they retain his “License to Kill”? ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588/31 "2025-02-21T00:55:47Z")
That isn’t going to get good reviews in the US but I bet it plays like gangbusters in China. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Banksiaman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banksiaman/32/3334_2.png) [@Banksiaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banksiaman)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588/32 "2025-02-21T02:26:33Z")
Is it too much to hope for a James Bond / Johnny English crossover movie? ---
**Author:** ![pirviii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pirviii/32/3233_2.png) [@pirviii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pirviii)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588/33 "2025-02-21T03:58:31Z")
James Bond: Vampire Hunter ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588/34 "2025-02-21T03:59:52Z")
I wanted to see a Q, M, Moneypenny series without Bond. And movies about other 00- Agents casting all those dream actors who come up in polls all the time. But I still wanted Bond himself to remain sacrosanct and carefully cultivated. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588/35 "2025-02-21T04:15:48Z")
A period piece is the only interesting idea I’ve heard in regards to Bond. I’ve seen every Bond movie but I’m more of a casual fan. In more recent years, recent defined as 1995, I’ve grown to enjoy the Bond movies less and less. I really liked _Goldeneye,_ but I didn’t care for any of the Brosnan movies and it wasn’t because he did a bad job. I enjoyed the first two or three Craig movies, but _Spectre_ was a mess and I was glad they killed Bond off in _No Time to Die._ Sometimes I think it’s best to just let a franchise die, but we can’t let that happen so long as money can be squeezed out of it. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588/36 "2025-02-21T04:27:24Z")
> [@iamatractorboy](#): > > There isn’t much that hasn’t been mined from Fleming’s original stories, but as someone above mentioned, a more faithful adaptation of _Moonraker_ would be pretty awesome. There’s no way the protracted bridge scene would work on screen though, so they’d have to take one or two liberties with it. I agree about the bridge scene. It takes up about one-third of the book, and if you don’t know how to play bridge, you’d find it confusing and most likely boring. I know how to play, so I found it interesting, but I’m sure that few would. One book that really hasn’t been touched in the films at all is _The Spy Who Loved Me_. The title has been used, of course, but that film’s story bore absolutely no relation to the plot of the book. It’s one of the strangest of the Bond books, since Bond doesn’t appear at all until the last third. But it’s a good taut thriller, and I think it would make a good movie. ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588/37 "2025-02-21T05:07:24Z")
I think they’ll drop the M character, and when Bond needs some new tech, he’ll order it from Amazon. With free shipping via Prime. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588/38 "2025-02-21T05:42:49Z")
I am Number Two. You are Number 007. Bond sleeping his way through the Village would be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588/39 "2025-02-21T06:24:46Z")
Maybe I’m just being a bit cynical, given what Dusney have done to other huge film series. I didn’t bother with the Lord of the Rings spinoff so I can’t really say if that was any good, but I avoided it because it wasn’t overly well received. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588/40 "2025-02-21T06:26:47Z")
You’ve given me an idea for a meta/in-joke they could make… have a film, or more likely part of a TV series, where MI6 is trying to recruit to a vacancy in the 00 section, and they just can’t find the right person for the job. Gives a chance for a load of cameos which could be funny. Ok, it’s a terrible idea. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-mgm-takes-creative-reins-of-james-bond-ending-an-era-of-family-control-of-007/1014588.md?page=3)