# Amazon warehouse near St. Louis damaged by tornado \[And other tornados 12/10/2021\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 11, 2021, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871 "2021-12-11T05:48:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/21 "2021-12-11T23:17:29Z")
I saw that on the NPR website. Some people are going, “Wow, that’s EF5 level damage” but no, it’s not. That, I’ve seen too (I lived in the Joplin region after the 2011 storm) and THAT is the ground scoured clean, including large trees pulled up by the roots, as far as the eye could see. ☹ One of the hospitals in Joplin took a direct hit (all of the fatalities there were people on ventilators who, for whatever reason, couldn’t be bagged) and the x-ray storage room was compromised and for miles around, people were finding x-rays on their property. They were instructed to take them to a doctor or dentist, and they would return them. Anyway, I later heard that an x-ray MACHINE was found in a field, 30 miles away. I believe it, too. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/22 "2021-12-12T02:47:22Z")
In the meantime, I heard on CNN that many of the candle factory employees were also jail inmates. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/23 "2021-12-12T03:06:48Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > One of the hospitals in Joplin took a direct hit (all of the fatalities there were people on ventilators who, for whatever reason, couldn’t be bagged) and the x-ray storage room was compromised and for miles around, people were finding x-rays on their property. They were instructed to take them to a doctor or dentist, and they would return them. Anyway, I later heard that an x-ray MACHINE was found in a field, 30 miles away. I believe it, too. I’m kind of surprised they _had_ an x-ray storage room. I thought most hospitals converted to digital imaging years ago. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/24 "2021-12-12T03:48:20Z")
This is a _ **huge** _ weather system. Way up here in southern Ontario, wind gusts of up to 100 km/h were reported. Things must have been rough at the area airports. I also see from the CBC website that 200,000 in Ontario are without power due to high winds. I had a bit of a power flicker earlier today but fortunately it stayed on. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/25 "2021-12-12T03:51:40Z")
> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#): > > The report I saw said _12_ dead at the candle factory. 50 (may end up being 70-100) in the state of Kentucky. What you have is a huge number of people unaccounted for–while there may be only a limited number of bodies discovered: > [Kentucky Gov. Andy] Beshear noted that although 110 workers were believed to have been at the candle factory when the tornado hit about midnight, only about 40 workers had been rescued by first responders as of late Saturday morning. > **['Completely devastated': Kentucky town left mourning, in ruins after...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/weather/2021/12/11/mayfield-kentucky-candle-factory-tornado/6476382001/)** > > A tornado hit a candle factory in Mayfield, Kentucky, and Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear said the downtown was "completely devastated." ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/26 "2021-12-12T04:13:13Z")
This storm happened in 2011, and they might keep them for longer than 7 years or whatever the rules are or were. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/27 "2021-12-12T14:03:07Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > Anyway, I later heard that an x-ray MACHINE was found in a field, 30 miles away. I believe it, too. I wonder though if that report of being just an E3 is premature, I also did check images of the Joplin damage and there are many areas in Mayfield that look like Joplin did in 2011. I also saw reports of vehicles being tossed and piled around now, and concrete and steel structures crumbled like an aluminum can. > ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/28 "2021-12-12T16:33:02Z")
And destruction in another town Dawson Springs: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/I50TVCGd7Ok/maxresdefault.jpg "12-11-2021 Dawson Springs, Ky Extraordinary tornado damage- Town destroyed- drone") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I50TVCGd7Ok) And a story discussing donations: > **[Here's how you can help Kentucky's tornado victims](https://www.wlky.com/article/want-to-help-western-kentucky-red-cross-sets-up-online-donations-for-victims-of-tornado-outbreak/38491592)** > > The Western Kentucky Red Cross has already set up a way for people who want to help to make donations to aid all of the people have been tragically affected by Friday night's and Saturday morning's tornado outbreak. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/29 "2021-12-12T18:22:49Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > And destruction in another town Dawson Springs I remember being in Dawson Springs as a kid, when we vacationed at a nearby state park. Those images are just horrifying. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/30 "2021-12-12T18:37:40Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Don’t these large warehouses and factories have tornado shelters? Yes. The folks at the candle factory had gone into their shelter. They ended up with feet of debris on top of them. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/31 "2021-12-12T20:03:59Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Yes. The folks at the candle factory had gone into their shelter I believe their “shelter” was a hallway on the first (and only?) floor. While that may have been the location designated as the place to take shelter and may have been the best place to be, it might not be what most people think of as a “shelter”, like a basement or strong-room. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/32 "2021-12-12T21:40:54Z")
It depends on what part of Joplin was photographed; the tornado wasn’t an EF5 the whole time, and some damage even on that part of the track was minimal at the edges. I’ve always wondered how they managed to get the streets cleared by the time the pictures were taken. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/33 "2021-12-13T03:18:53Z")
Fewer deaths than previously thought at the candle factory: > Initial reports said only 40 people had been located. > > Mayfield Consumer Products Spokesperson Bob Ferguson told the Associated Press late Sunday that eight employees have been confirmed dead and another eight are still missing, but dozens of people who were initially missing have been located. > > “Many of the employees were gathered in the tornado shelter and after the storm was over they left the plant and went to their homes,” he said. “With the power out and no landline they were hard to reach initially. We’re hoping to find more of those eight unaccounted as we try their home residences.” > **[KY tornado recovery continues. Report says 8 dead, 8 missing at Mayfield...](https://www.kentucky.com/news/state/kentucky/article256528791.html)** > > At a news conference late Sunday, Beshear said 18 counties have reported damage from the tornadoes and he believes the total number of people without homes will be in the thousands. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/34 "2021-12-13T21:17:02Z")
NWS checking to see if miles-on-ground record set by [the 1925 Tri-State tornado](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tri-State_tornado_outbreak#Tri-State_tornado) has been broken: > **[The Great Quad-State Tornado Has Been Rated EF4](https://www.woodtv.com/weather/bills-blog/the-great-quad-state-tornado/)** > > What is being called the Great Quad-State Tornado has been given a preliminary rating of EF4 with peak winds of 190 mph (making it a high-end EF4). This is the 2nd EF4 tornado in the U.S. in 2021 a… ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/35 "2021-12-13T23:53:14Z")
If the Weatherman was correct in that report; then it agrees with what I thought, as I said to @nearwildheaven, it was premature to declare that tornado as an E3. Earlier reports said that it could had been “at least an E3”, meaning that just expecting it to remain at that level was iffy. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/36 "2021-12-15T07:38:57Z")
This should lead to some lawsuits: > **[Factory workers threatened with firing if they left before tornado, employees...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kentucky-tornado-factory-workers-threatened-firing-left-tornado-employ-rcna8581)** > > Exclusive: At least eight people died in the Mayfield Consumer Products candle factory. Its destruction has become a symbol of the tornado's ruinous power. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/37 "2021-12-15T09:27:56Z")
Should lead to them… but will they? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/38 "2021-12-15T20:11:34Z")
More tornados possible for Upper Midwest. > **[SPC Day 1 Outlook](https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day1otlk.html)** > > Severe weather, tornado, thunderstorm, fire weather, > storm report, tornado watch, severe thunderstorm watch, > mesoscale discussion, convective outlook products from the Storm > Prediction Center. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/39 "2021-12-15T21:00:42Z")
To all the people running around saying how great it is to have 60 degree weather halfway through December: Enjoy your tornadoes. Because you don’t get one without the other. ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/40 "2021-12-15T22:12:03Z")
There has never been a recorded tornado in Minnesota in December. Blizzards? Of course. Tornadoes? That’s funny. Currently, eight counties are under a tornado watch, expected to expand and probably become warnings as the evening progresses. SE Minnesota/SW Wisconsin could see wind gusts in excess of 80mph. It’s 64f in Winona, MN, should be around 30f. This isn’t right. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871.md?page=3)