# Amazon warehouse near St. Louis damaged by tornado \[And other tornados 12/10/2021\]

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**Created:** [December 11, 2021, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871 "2021-12-11T05:48:38Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/41 "2021-12-15T22:16:03Z")

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The night of the Kentucky tornadoes Northwestern Indiana recorded a brief, small by tornado standards, tornado. It was the first Chicago area December tornado on record.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/42 "2021-12-15T22:18:06Z")

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> [@MissTake](#):
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> This isn’t right.

All of this is happening around me in Nebraska as I type this.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/43 "2021-12-15T22:20:36Z")

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Be safe!

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/44 "2021-12-15T22:24:19Z")

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I’m lying on a couch at the blood bank, donating platelets. They are hovering over me protectively.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/45 "2021-12-15T22:53:39Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> The night of the Kentucky tornadoes Northwestern Indiana recorded a brief, small by tornado standards, tornado. It was the first Chicago area December tornado on record.

Yes. The track for that one ended about 10 miles from where I live.

As it happens, we didn’t have any more damage than downed tree limbs and one knocked over utility pole, maybe some airborne roof shingles. That’s partly our building codes but also because it was an EF0

Still - first December tornado in our area.

We have high wind warnings for tonight. We’ve been told to expect power outages (note to self: unplug just about everything prior to going to bed to avoid power spikes.) We’ve been told tornadoes are unlikely in our parts but it could happen.

Grrr…

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/46 "2021-12-15T23:40:47Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> To all the people running around saying how great it is to have 60 degree weather halfway through December:
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> Enjoy your tornadoes.
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> Because you don’t get one without the other

I respectfully disagree.

Here in central Kansas, in my almost 70 years, we’ve had sixty degree temperatures in December in several different years. It’s not common, but it’s also not unusual.

But, in my lifetime, we’ve never had a December tornado.

The weather this winter, as has been noted, isn’t right.

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/47 "2021-12-16T00:33:33Z")

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> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> All of this is happening around me in Nebraska as I type this.

Be careful Miss Boo!

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/48 "2021-12-16T00:49:14Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Here in central Kansas, in my almost 70 years, we’ve had sixty degree temperatures in December in several different years. It’s not common, but it’s also not unusual.

I’m in Northern Indiana. December weather is 10-20 degrees, maybe 30-35 in a warm year, and several inches of snow.

It’s 60 effin’ degrees here.

We’re getting tornadoes watches AGAIN tonight.

Maybe in your neighborhood it’s not a problem, but in mine this sort of warmth in December generates storms, high winds (already gusting to 60 now), and yes, tornadoes. YMMV.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/49 "2021-12-16T01:18:14Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Maybe in your neighborhood it’s not a problem, but in mine this sort of warmth in December generates storms, high winds (already gusting to 60 now), and yes, tornadoes. YMMV.

We had gusts of wind today over 70 mph, with a little rain and actually a bit of hail. Dust storms shut down I-70 in western Kansas. Insane weather for December.

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/50 "2021-12-16T01:30:22Z")

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Made it home from donating at the blood bank~during which the electricity faltered several times, but they had backup generators. Lots of traffic lights out along my driving route home. My home electricity seems fine but the winds be howling and groaning around my humble abode. Not to worry, it’s a one story house with a good basement~been here 140+ years so far!

When I got to my dentist appt earlier the University had just closed the Dental College, too late to let me know. Made another appt for Christmas Eve Eve (the 23rd), to get the cleaning benefit from my dental insurance for the coverage year. I was kind of looking forward to that new toothbrush. At least I didn’t pitch my current one in the trash on my way out the door.

Did I mention how the wind was howling? Yikes. My next door neighbor has two campers and a pickup under jerry-rigged sheet metal shelters, which are sounding like the end of the world as we know it. Mad Max Fury version 2.

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/51 "2021-12-16T01:52:17Z")

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> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> Did I mention how the wind was howling?

Here’s the scene (10 seconds) in Lincoln today:

[https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/rhciw5/winds\_of\_up\_to\_93\_mph\_reported\_in\_lincoln/](https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/rhciw5/winds_of_up_to_93_mph_reported_in_lincoln/)

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/52 "2021-12-16T02:50:34Z")

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Here W of Chicago, the wind is HOWLING. They forecast gusts to 65 mph. Dayum!

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/53 "2021-12-16T03:09:34Z")

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Tornadoes not too far from me.  
More on Amazon

> **[OSHA probes Amazon warehouse where workers died with no tornado shelter](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/12/osha-investigates-amazon-after-6-die-in-warehouse-struck-by-tornado/)**
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> Workers reportedly told to shelter after second tornado warning was issued.

Brian

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/54 "2021-12-16T04:10:39Z")

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Here’s the first AP story about today’s events:

> **[Strong winds in Midwest whip up dust, blow over semitrailers](https://apnews.com/article/tornadoes-storms-nebraska-weather-2a2331249202bbb212ebee62f4bb0473)**
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> OMAHA, Neb. (AP) — A powerful storm system swept across the Great Plains and Midwest Wednesday, closing highways in western Kansas, spawning reported tornadoes in Nebraska and Iowa and raising concerns about fires because of unusually high...

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/55 "2021-12-16T14:31:21Z")

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One more bizarre point about yesterday’s powerful windstorm:

During the winter season, the wind almost always blows from the north. Yesterday, the wind blew from the south/southwest, which is highly unusual in December, to say the least. And certainly not 100-mph winds.

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/56 "2021-12-16T18:17:07Z")

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Was it a derecho? It sounds like one.

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/57 "2021-12-16T19:01:30Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Was it a derecho?

Evidently.

> **[Widespread, Damaging, Unusual December Storm Spawns Derecho, Tornadoes in the...](https://weather.com/safety/tornado/news/2021-12-15-severe-weather-forecast-damaging-winds-tornadoes-midwest)**
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> This storm had major impacts over a large area of the nation's mid-section. - Articles from The Weather Channel | weather.com

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/58 "2021-12-16T23:40:13Z")

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It did not meet the NWS’s definition.

My area got rain and wind, but nothing like what was predicted.

Some of my FBFs in the Des Moines area mentioned that they not only smelled smoke, but that it had an electrical or plastic “note”, if you will. Turns out there was an electrical fire at one of the colleges, and with the high winds, it would make sense that lots of people could smell it.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/59 "2021-12-17T14:29:49Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> It did not meet the NWS’s definition.

FWIW, NASA says otherwise:

> **[Derecho Sweeps Across Midwest](https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/149221/derecho-sweeps-across-midwest)**
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> Hurricane-force winds, dust storms, tornadoes, wildfires, snow squalls, heavy rain, and record-breaking heat accompanied an unusual December storm system.

Neat little video there showing the storm’s progress.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-warehouse-near-st-louis-damaged-by-tornado-and-other-tornados-12-10-2021/955871/60 "2021-12-17T21:31:07Z")

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Two tornadoes in Minnesota, “historical and unprecedented” as every newscaster has mentioned multiple times.  
One was about 15 miles from where my daughter lives. It was not a fun night for them, huddled in the first floor hallway, cat in carrier, with a bunch of other apartment residents.  
They escaped with a bunch of shingles torn off the building and branches down.  
Family in Rochester, young couple, she’s due any day, had a large tree come down on their garage. Totaled one of their trucks.

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