# Amazon's 'the Boys' season 4 trailer just dropped **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, amazon-prime\ **Created:** [May 4, 2024, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126 "2024-05-04T04:31:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126/61 "2024-07-05T12:12:58Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > > Not really worried about Wee Hughie, despite the predicament he finds himself in . Plot armor and all that sort of thing, you know. > > He has plot armor against being traumatized by sexual assault? What I meant was _he wasn’t going to die._ I _did_ kinda think he was going to guess the safe word. ---
**Author:** ![Scoobysnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Scoobysnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoobysnax)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126/62 "2024-07-05T19:33:42Z")
I honestly didn’t foresee that Kessler was also a construct of Butcher’s temp-V damaged brain. In hindsight it makes a lot of sense. Also, not from the latest episode, I am guessing that the black tentacles that came out of the dead rabbit are what killed the stretch Armstrong preacher when Preacher was unconscious. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126/63 "2024-07-05T19:36:24Z")
Butcher’s definitely got something scuttling/swimming around under his skin, so this is probably a good shout. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126/64 "2024-07-05T22:19:59Z")
By the way, I was walking by the Royal York Hotel today and I noticed they were filming something for either Gen V or The Boys in that neighbourhood (a lot of trucks with the code name “Marathon 5959” were parked around the block). ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2024, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126/65 "2024-07-06T04:57:52Z")
Apparently Hughie getting his foot tickled with a feather is going too far. > **[‘The Boys’ Crossed A Line, And It Wasn’t ‘Hilarious’ At All](https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2024/07/05/the-boys-crossed-a-line-and-it-wasnt-hilarious-at-all/)** > > 'The Boys' doesn't even bother to grapple with male victims of sexual assault as showrunner Eric Kripke writes it off as 'hilarious'. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2024, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126/66 "2024-07-06T06:34:08Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > By the way, I was walking by the Royal York Hotel today and I noticed they were filming something for either Gen V or The Boys in that neighbourhood Gen V is shooting now. It’s always fun watching out for scenes of Toronto. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2024, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126/67 "2024-07-06T07:11:49Z")
Toronto seems to be the stand in for New York for loads of stuff. Is it purely to do with tax reasons or does Toronto somehow ‘look more like New York than New York does’? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2024, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126/68 "2024-07-06T10:51:15Z")
New York doesn’t look like New York on film–you have to paint Toronto. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2024, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126/69 "2024-07-06T10:53:19Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Apparently Hughie getting his foot tickled with a feather is going too far. What Erik Kain (writer of the piece) is missing is that Hughie’s “abusers” believed they were engaging in consentual sex acts with WebWeaver, and Hughie was _violating them_ by pretending to be WW. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126/70 "2024-07-07T00:28:17Z")
I thought this episode was pretty bad. How on earth would The Boys think they could infiltrate a party at which are all of: -billionaires representing 38% of the GDP -the smartest person in the world -the greatest detective in the world (although I can’t remember exactly how much they know about Tek Knight) -The VP elect -Homelander Isn’t there going to be security there? Eh, no, they can just climb on in and unlock a door. Why not? Just frustratingly stupid worldbuilding. And yet, somehow, it worked out. Ridiculous. I thought the (not-super-surprising, but not quite sure I would have realized it had so many people online not speculated) revelation that Butcher’s buddy was all in his head was well done. But frankly, “the Boys” themselves, putatively the main characters, are just silly and pointless at this point, kinda going through the motions with no urgency, no direction, etc. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126/71 "2024-07-07T01:39:26Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > the smartest person in the world I’ve been idly wondering whether she’s — well, yeah, _smart,_ and able to regenerate whenever a brain injury temporarily lessens that; but, given that she’s a supe, what if she’s a mindreader who _can’t_ (a) whip up a cure for cancer, or (b) do a Sherlock Scan of someone’s hands to see that they’re washing more often because they’re urinating more often? What if she can just pick up on someone’s thoughts, to the point where she can usually get the desired response over the course of a conversation, and, well, that’s pretty much _it?_ ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126/72 "2024-07-07T06:36:32Z")
I’ve been wondering if she’s in it for ‘the long con’; i.e. Homelander and the rightwing nutjobs are actually her marks. But maybe a twist like that would be pushing credulity. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126/73 "2024-07-07T06:56:06Z")
> [@iamatractorboy](#): > > Is it purely to do with tax reasons or does Toronto somehow ‘look more like New York than New York does’? In many ways it does, but the lower Canadian dollar is a big driver. They were shooting the Schwarzenegger Netflix series Fubar on my street last week. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126/74 "2024-07-07T07:56:30Z")
Oh god does that mean we get another one of those?! 😆 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126/75 "2024-07-07T10:11:44Z")
> [@iamatractorboy](#): > > I’ve been wondering if she’s in it for ‘the long con’; i.e. Homelander and the rightwing nutjobs are actually her marks. I could believe that she’s doing that _now._ But I’m still taking at face value the bit where Homelander shows up, out of the blue, at her place: impress me with your parlor trick right now, and say stuff I want to hear or give me a reason to laser you, and; huh, sounds good; let’s go. If she was pretty much content to live out her life there, reading books and eating tacos, then Homelander putting her on the spot like that meant she (a) immediately had to convince him she could be useful to him, and (b) has been continuing on with that ever since — either to work at bringing about a world both of them would prefer, or, as you say, doing that on the surface while actually working at something else entirely. Now, my pet twist is that it makes more sense for her to be doing that as a mindreader — that, for example, she _didn’t_ look at his hands to realize he’s been washing them more often, because his hands are famous for two things: showing no signs of wear even from gunshots, and being covered in gloves. That, put on the spot, she impresses him by saying stuff he already knows, and placates him by saying what he’d like to hear; and that, ever since, that’s pretty much all she does: she’ll tell you stuff you already know about your daughter, if she figures it’ll make you hesitate, or she’ll tell you about having invented something if she figures that’ll convince you to show some initiative — but, for all I know, she’s never invented anything and didn’t know that ‘daughter’ information until that scene. For all I know, she _can’t_ do lightning-fast math tricks, or glance at a crime scene and realize the killer was left-handed. Or whatever. But, either way, I’m still a sucker for the idea that she was living alone with her books and her tacos, and, _oh, shit, I’ve just been placed in a situation where to all appearances I’ll now have to make a show of being on Team Homelander, regardless of whether I start working on a long con._ I guess my question to you is: what would her life be like today if he hadn’t shown up at her door? Would she be working on a long con, or would she be reading books and eating tacos? Or are you figuring that she masterminded him coming to her door? ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126/76 "2024-07-07T10:48:10Z")
My thinking was that she didn’t know he was coming to see her, but she’s decided to take advantage of the opportunity that has presented itself, but not in a straightforward way. Just as a gratuitous twist to the story to be honest, because that’s what screenwriters do. But I could be way off! ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126/77 "2024-07-11T23:19:35Z")
Things don’t end well for talking octipodes on science fiction tv shows. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126/78 "2024-07-12T02:54:13Z")
This episode was much better than the last one. > [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > As far as I can tell, gunfire from range could drop, say, Firecracker while she’s standing still. Or Deep, while he’s standing still. Or Sage, while she’s standing still. Or A-Train, while he’s standing still. Or the current Black Noir, while he’s standing still. Well, there’s one solid “no” at least. And Butcher didn’t seem too sure about Deep, either. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126/79 "2024-07-12T03:01:23Z")
Webweaver wasn’t particularly durable, though. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126/80 "2024-07-12T03:07:40Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > Well, there’s one solid “no” at least. Yeah, I got suckered by his lament that “I studied performing arts at Godolkin; I did _Cirque de Vought_ in Montreal; you didn’t hire me to stand around like a fucking oak tree.” I figured that, if he was so danged interested in showing off just how much he can do, a powerhouse on the level we just saw wouldn’t have glossed over the sheer damn _oomph_ at his disposal… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazons-the-boys-season-4-trailer-just-dropped/1001126.md?page=5)