# Ambassador Paul Cellucci is an asshole

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambassador-paul-cellucci-is-an-asshole/164566
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [March 27, 2003, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambassador-paul-cellucci-is-an-asshole/164566 "2003-03-27T18:18:15Z")
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### Author: ![InTheField](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@InTheField](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InTheField)
#### Post date: [March 27, 2003, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambassador-paul-cellucci-is-an-asshole/164566/1 "2003-03-27T18:18:15Z")

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To Paul Cellucci – Ambassador to Canada

Ambassador to Canada Paul Cellucci recently gave Canada shit for not jumping into the war in Iraq. “We would come to aid Canada without hesitation," Mr. Cellucci said. “It’s disappointing that one of our family is not supporting us.”

Well you know what? You’re a lying sack of shit. World War 1 did not start in 1917 Mr. Cellucci, but rather in 1914. You hesitated a couple of years there, eh? In addition, World War 2 did not start in 1941 Mr. Cellucci. Canadians had been fighting Hitler since 1939. Thanks OH SO MUCH for “coming to our aid without hesitation” then, you hypocritical scumbag. But then, of course, Hitler was just a misunderstood painter, eh? Plus, the majority of US citizens did not want to get involved in a European conflict. Mr. Cellucci, please pull your head out of George W’s colon for a moment and CONSULT A HISTORY BOOK.

But then, we’re “one of the family”, eh? Well, if we are, we’re the abused step-sister part of the family. We’re the “getting boned up the arse and locked under the stairs” part of the family. You’re all in favour of free trade, as long as YOU’RE the ones benefiting. If Canada benefits, OH BOY, WATCH out, there will be duties and tariffs slapped on to our products pretty damn quick eh? You’ve been hammering away at softwood lumber for years. Every time Canada wins at the international arbitration tables, you think up another ploy to destroy our industry.  
Cite: [http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/eicb/softwood/background-en.asp](http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/eicb/softwood/background-en.asp)  
Trade in wheat is currently under dispute too. Cant’ stand the thought of FAIR trade can you. Has to always go your way.

And you know what? We DO SUPPORT you when you’ve been attacked. Canada was INCREDIBLY supportive after 9/11. What did that get us? Snubbed by good old George W. He thanked every country in the world except…. Canada. That’s OK though. We’re used to being snubbed and screwed by you.  
When there was good evidence to believe that terrorists were in Afghanistan, WE SUPPORTED YOU THEN. We sent troops. You bombed them. Yes, the only Canadian casualties of the war in Afghanistan were killed by Americans. Thank you very much.

Of course, those 9/11 terrorists all came down from Canukistan, right? That damn open border was just an invitation for terrorists to come into the land of freedom. When that THEORY and SPECULATION was shown to be COMPLETELY FALSE, did we get an apology? A mention? No. In February 2003, when the alert about the 5 “terrorists” coming from Canada was shown to be a hoax, did we get an apology from the US fearmongers? No.  
Cite [http://www.fftimes.com/index.php3/3/2003-02-04/12985](http://www.fftimes.com/index.php3/3/2003-02-04/12985)

So you know what Mr. Cellucci: Go to hell. Tell your puppet-master to go to hell. Screw you…

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### Author: ![CuriousCanuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@CuriousCanuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CuriousCanuck)
#### Post date: [March 27, 2003, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambassador-paul-cellucci-is-an-asshole/164566/2 "2003-03-27T18:45:57Z")

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Welcome to the boards. A fine rant. But you may wish to merge it with the other one already started with the same topic. 🙂

Maybea mod would be so kind.

Hope you stick around!

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### Author: ![InTheField](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@InTheField](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InTheField)
#### Post date: [March 27, 2003, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambassador-paul-cellucci-is-an-asshole/164566/3 "2003-03-27T18:51:49Z")

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Oops, sorry, didn’t do the appropriate searching. Yes mods, please merge with appropriate thread, if ya don’t mind.

btw, I like most Americans, it’s your leaders I’m not so fond of.

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### Author: ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)
#### Post date: [March 27, 2003, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambassador-paul-cellucci-is-an-asshole/164566/4 "2003-03-27T18:59:17Z")

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There are only 3 other threads on the boards at the moment.

Fuck the war  
French bashing 101  
Godamn protesters

Leave this where it is, it’s refreshing.

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### Author: ![CuriousCanuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@CuriousCanuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CuriousCanuck)
#### Post date: [March 27, 2003, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambassador-paul-cellucci-is-an-asshole/164566/5 "2003-03-27T19:17:24Z")

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World Eater:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=172974](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=172974)

There was already THAT Mr Celucci one… that is all I was referring to.

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### Author: ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)
#### Post date: [March 27, 2003, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambassador-paul-cellucci-is-an-asshole/164566/6 "2003-03-27T19:26:18Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by CuriousCanuck \*  
> \*\*World Eater:
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> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=172974](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=172974)
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> There was already THAT Mr Celucci one… that is all I was referring to. \*\*

Gotcha ya 😛

Thanks

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### Author: ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [March 27, 2003, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambassador-paul-cellucci-is-an-asshole/164566/7 "2003-03-27T22:14:45Z")

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**InTheField** , I posted a longer post in the other thread, but I just wanted to add my welcome, and say: right on.

As an American, I can remember many times when Canada has helped us out. (In the other thread, I recalled when the staff at the Canadian Embassy in Iran smuggled a bunch of Americans out if Iran in 1980, when Khomeini’s regime was holding over 50 American hostages. Just to add to what you and **CuriousCanuck** have already mentioned.) Damned if I know why sometimes, the way we alternately ignore you, then give you grief when you have (gasp!) a foreign policy of your own, as if you were a real live independent nation or something.

This American has to say “thanks, Canada,” for being a better neighbor than we deserve.

[sub]Just don’t export any more Celine Dions, OK? The first one was one too many. [/sub]

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### Author: ![InTheField](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@InTheField](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InTheField)
#### Post date: [March 27, 2003, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambassador-paul-cellucci-is-an-asshole/164566/8 "2003-03-27T22:26:53Z")

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**RTFirefly** , you’ve just made my day.  
I was grumpy this morning, and now I’m smiling. 😃

I’d send you a beer over the board if I could.

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### Author: ![Palve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a698b9/32.png) [@Palve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palve)
#### Post date: [March 27, 2003, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambassador-paul-cellucci-is-an-asshole/164566/9 "2003-03-27T22:27:25Z")

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There has been a lot of anti-Canadian talk going on, some of it accusing of Chrétien of “tolerating anti-American sentiment”. The sheer arrogance of saying anti-American talk is not okay but anti-Canadian talk is makes me want to vomit.

This latest incident is just one more point on my list of reasons I’m embarrassed by the administration in my country. Luckily, I may be living in Canada myself in a few months.

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### Author: ![3.885AM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/58956e/32.png) [@3.885AM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3.885AM)
#### Post date: [March 27, 2003, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambassador-paul-cellucci-is-an-asshole/164566/10 "2003-03-27T23:43:43Z")

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Consider yourself lucky he is only your ambassador, he was our governor. Please be nice to him, we don’t want him coming back here!

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### Author: ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)
#### Post date: [March 27, 2003, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambassador-paul-cellucci-is-an-asshole/164566/11 "2003-03-27T23:51:07Z")

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Thank you, **InTheField**. I too wanted to smack him upside the head for his incredibly insulting whine. In his defense, I understand he was told to say what he did by high-ups in the Bush administration, but if he had any balls at all he would have told the administration why the message was unacceptable, and the most he could do was express a general sense of unhappiness at the position of the Canadian government.

And those not-particularly-veiled threats about trade issues…sheesh, like those fuckers haven’t been screwing us over for years on lumber, wheat, etc, already, and like that would have changed if we’d meekly followed along.

I would, however, like to invite Mr. Cellucci to Saskatoon, however, as he apparently is highly qualified for some of the jobs available hereabouts, shovelling bullshit.

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### Author: ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)
#### Post date: [March 27, 2003, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambassador-paul-cellucci-is-an-asshole/164566/12 "2003-03-27T23:57:41Z")

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Impressive OP.

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### Author: ![InTheField](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@InTheField](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InTheField)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2003, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambassador-paul-cellucci-is-an-asshole/164566/13 "2003-03-28T00:07:33Z")

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OK Muffin, enough hinting around.

I’ll go on a date with you.

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### Author: ![gloaming](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e5b9ba/32.png) [@gloaming](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gloaming)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2003, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambassador-paul-cellucci-is-an-asshole/164566/14 "2003-03-28T00:08:15Z")

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Jeez, now Canada! Is anybody NOT in the axis of Evil?

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### Author: ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2003, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambassador-paul-cellucci-is-an-asshole/164566/15 "2003-03-28T00:48:17Z")

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Canada was deeply concerned about the threat to security caused by 40,000 live landmines around the world. The US did not share this concern, not immediately, not without debate. Celluci is breaking diplomatic protocol with his useless advice, and Bush is indeed a failed statesman.

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### Author: ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2003, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambassador-paul-cellucci-is-an-asshole/164566/16 "2003-03-28T00:59:23Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by gloaming \*  
> \*\*Jeez, now Canada! Is anybody NOT in the axis of Evil? \*\*

Texas ? 😃

[sub]Welcome to the Board ![/sub]

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### Author: ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2003, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambassador-paul-cellucci-is-an-asshole/164566/17 "2003-03-28T01:01:38Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by InTheField \*  
> **RTFirefly** , you’ve just made my day.  
> I was grumpy this morning, and now I’m smiling. 😃
> 
> I’d send you a beer over the board if I could.

And I’d cheerfully drink it. Glad to brighten your day!

Make it a Moosehead, OK? 🙂  
**gloaming** - geez, remember your history! Canada’s been part of the Axis of Evil ever since that Terence and Philip movie, _Asses of Fire_.

How soon we forget.

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### Author: ![Consuela\_Bobuela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Consuela\_Bobuela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Consuela_Bobuela)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2003, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambassador-paul-cellucci-is-an-asshole/164566/18 "2003-03-28T01:54:28Z")

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I thought Canada was the triple axel of evil.

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### Author: ![Ms\_Macphisto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b487fb/32.png) [@Ms\_Macphisto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms_Macphisto)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2003, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambassador-paul-cellucci-is-an-asshole/164566/19 "2003-03-28T03:04:37Z")

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I don’t have a cite for this, but I just heard something about how “Canadian bacon” is now being called “Liberty bacon”

(Frankly, you guys are welcome to take the blame for that stuff away from us as far as I’m concerned. I think it’s nasty.)

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### Author: ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2003, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambassador-paul-cellucci-is-an-asshole/164566/20 "2003-03-28T07:00:30Z")

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From the CBC:

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> On Thursday, in Washington, State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said Cellucci’s remarks accurately reflected the Bush administration’s disappointment with Canada.
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> “The remarks by Ambassador Cellucci exactly reflect our disappointment concerning the recent Canadian decisions, particularly in not joining the coalition to liberate Iraq,” said Boucher reading from a prepared statement.

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