# Ambivalid **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 10, 2015, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174 "2015-11-10T08:33:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174/101 "2015-11-10T21:17:30Z")
> [@Penfeather](#): > > I think **BBF** is like the giant telepathic fake space squid at the end of _Watchmen_, wreaking horror in order to remind us that we have to set aside our differences and start living in peace. Curse your false peace, Ozymandias!!! ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174/102 "2015-11-10T21:19:09Z")
> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > From what I gather, Ambivalid doesn’t need any special care and his disability had nothing to do with their breakup. > > Of course what you describe could be seen as bigotry I guess. Not sure what point you are trying to make. I agree with both paragraphs, and your second contains my point, which was in response to a question. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174/103 "2015-11-10T21:49:20Z")
Let’s see if we can make it 3 pages. OP is a clueless twit. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174/104 "2015-11-10T22:07:51Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I’d say assuming that someone in a wheelchair needs 24/7 care, and assuming that a girl would leave someone for being in a wheelchair, counts as bigotry. In my opinion, at least. If “assuming that someone in a wheelchair needs 24/7 care” is bigotry, the word has lost all meaning. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174/105 "2015-11-10T22:20:32Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > If “assuming that someone in a wheelchair needs 24/7 care” is bigotry, the word has lost all meaning. Will you go with stupidity? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174/106 "2015-11-10T22:23:40Z")
Doesn’t he always? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174/107 "2015-11-10T22:25:28Z")
> [@Emiliana](#): > > Will you go with stupidity? Sure, if that’s the case, but none of us know the actual situation. Every story has at least two sides, sometimes more, with the truth somewhere in the middle. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174/108 "2015-11-10T22:26:32Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Sure, if that’s the case, but none of us know the actual situation. Every story has at least two sides, sometimes more, with the truth somewhere in the middle. What has that to with the OP assuming Ambivalid requires 24/7 care (and therefore is a reason his GF was so unhappy) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174/109 "2015-11-10T22:28:09Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > If “assuming that someone in a wheelchair needs 24/7 care” is bigotry, the word has lost all meaning. It’s probably a pretty minor form of bigotry, but I think it qualifies. It’s prejudging someone, in a negative way (by assuming that they can’t take care of themselves), based on some physical characteristic. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174/110 "2015-11-10T22:33:36Z")
> [@Boo\_Boo\_Foo](#): > > Show some fucking balls mate. Do you have any manliness in you at all? **She bailed on you because you’re a fucken nutcase, you’re 10 years older than her, you were screaming at her all the time, and you’re in a wheel chair.** PLUS, she was your personal bit of tail, your personal 24 x 7 carer, you had her locked up in a house with no friends, family, or transport. She left because she’s not well? Keep telling yourself that mate, you gutless coward. > > Well of course you would, you’re the one in denial. How can you play the victim otherwise? > > So now the truth comes out. You’re a moody prick, you’re hard fucking work, and she was stuck in a house with you, without a car, no family or friends, 10 years younger than you, presumably a young lady with plenty of options, wondering to herself “How the fuck did I end up here?” See, being in a wheelchair is an item on the list of reasons why a girl would leave. She’s got options! No need for a crippled guy. That sounds like bigotry to me. And we don’t know her side of the story but we sure know Ambivalid doesn’t need 24/7 care. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174/111 "2015-11-10T22:40:57Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > It’s probably a pretty minor form of bigotry, but I think it qualifies. It’s prejudging someone, in a negative way (by assuming that they can’t take care of themselves), based on some physical characteristic. Everyone prejudges, but not everything is bigotry. Disparaging people? Refusing service? Bigotry. Assuming someone might need help? Not bigotry. What about the old-fashioned “Boy Scout helps little old lady across the street” story? Is the Boy Scout bigoted for assuming she needs help? If a man holds a door open for a lady, is he “bigoted”, since he might be assuming she can’t do it herself? Of course not. ---
**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174/112 "2015-11-10T22:46:43Z")
How about “ignorant and unseemly stereotype”? Is that better? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174/113 "2015-11-10T22:48:13Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Everyone prejudges, but not everything is bigotry. > > Disparaging people? Refusing service? Bigotry. > > Assuming someone might need help? Not bigotry. > > What about the old-fashioned “Boy Scout helps little old lady across the street” story? Is the Boy Scout bigoted for assuming she needs help? If a man holds a door open for a lady, is he “bigoted”, since he might be assuming she can’t do it herself? > > Of course not. Right – all of these things don’t sound like bigotry to me. I agree with you – not everything is bigotry. Some things are, though. It’s entirely possible that we disagree on some of those things. ---
**Author:** ![F.Pu-du-he-pa-as](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c89c15/32.png) [@F.Pu-du-he-pa-as](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.Pu-du-he-pa-as)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174/114 "2015-11-10T22:52:33Z")
After reading a cached version of **Ambivalid** ’s thread on a cross-country flight today, I wondered if there was going to be a pit thread for **Boo Boo Foo**. So naturally that was the first thing I checked when I got home. And I see _this_! This is better than my wildest imaginings! Thanks for making my day, **Boo Boo Foo**! I’d insult you but I’m laughing too hard at how you effectively pitted yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174/115 "2015-11-10T23:01:05Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Everyone prejudges, but not everything is bigotry. > > Disparaging people? Refusing service? Bigotry. > > Assuming someone might need help? Not bigotry. > > What about the old-fashioned “Boy Scout helps little old lady across the street” story? Is the Boy Scout bigoted for assuming she needs help? If a man holds a door open for a lady, is he “bigoted”, since he might be assuming she can’t do it herself? > > Of course not. Go fuck a tree with your stupid ass pendantry bullshit fuck-dick. This thread isn’t about you so stop trying to make it so. Go back to trolling in GD. God your retarded assery is fucking annoying. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174/116 "2015-11-10T23:18:02Z")
For the record, round these parts a punter is a respected member of an American football team and Possum was the nickname of the sainted George Jones, so I would watch my tongue when selecting insults. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174/117 "2015-11-10T23:20:20Z")
I, too, wish to join in on this well-deserved pitting of **Boo Boo Foo**. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174/118 "2015-11-10T23:20:29Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Right – all of these things don’t sound like bigotry to me. I agree with you – not everything is bigotry. Some things are, though. It’s entirely possible that we disagree on some of those things. We do disagree on some of those things. No big deal. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174/119 "2015-11-11T00:23:11Z")
Atta boy, **Ambivalid**! I wasn’t sure if you were going to pit **Boo Boo Foo** after that asshole asshatted up your thread, but I see you did. Congrats for starting this well-deserved pitting! Wait. What’s that you say? This _isn’t_ by **Ambivalid**? But I read the subject line and it clearly says… 😕 OH I see. Gosh. I guess someone has to teach me remedial reading of subject lines and message starters. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174/120 "2015-11-11T00:27:51Z")
Great fuck! What is going on??? I have little to no experience in relationships, but sounds like Ambi’s ex pulled a major dick move in leaving like that. Unless I knew both people, I can’t possibly make any kind of judgment on who did what or who’s fault is whose. BBF, OTOH, seems to be quite comfortable in making full-fledged judgment and executions without any real background. I would really love to know BBF’s relationship history. Divorced much?? Shit if someone’s like this on the web, in real life it must be a fucking log flume ride ending in a pool of puke. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ambivalid/737174.md?page=7)