# Amendment One Passes in NC

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amendment-one-passes-in-nc/621345>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 9, 2012, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amendment-one-passes-in-nc/621345 "2012-05-09T01:25:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amendment-one-passes-in-nc/621345/21 "2012-05-09T02:30:22Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> It’s not 20 percent of his own party. It’s 20 percent of the people who bothered to vote in a primary where the result is a foregone conclusion.

I don’t even know if I bothered to mark that race on the ballot. I probably did, but out of habit–who cares about it, except for a few pitiful Republicans desperate to twist some stats to make a cheap shot?

And yeah, although the vote went exactly the way I expected it to, I wish I could think better of my fellow North Carolinians.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amendment-one-passes-in-nc/621345/22 "2012-05-09T02:34:32Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> Erm… huh? I’m not allowed to insult theoretical people outside the pit now?

There’s no rule against theoretical insults, but if you want to rant and say you hope hypothetical people come to harm, please do it in the Pit.

> [@jtgain](#):
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> No. I thought Elections was a place for discussion about issues related to the election. Didn’t realize there needed to be a debate. Please move as needed.

You’re in the correct forum. I was asking if you had anything to say beyond stating the election result, which anyone can see on TV or on the net. Further comment from you might make the OP sound less like a taunt to some people.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amendment-one-passes-in-nc/621345/23 "2012-05-09T02:35:08Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Death throes indeed. Nobody will take this seriously in ten years.

I keep telling myself that in 25 years, finding someone who will own having voted for a state anti-marriage-equality amendment will be as hard as finding someone who would own having cheered on the threatening snipers who wanted to pick off James Meredith on his first day at Ole Miss was in 1985.

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**Author:** ![ataraxy22](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ataraxy22/32/307_2.png) [@ataraxy22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ataraxy22)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amendment-one-passes-in-nc/621345/24 "2012-05-09T02:35:44Z")

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disgusting! I hate 60% of people sometimes.

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**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amendment-one-passes-in-nc/621345/25 "2012-05-09T02:42:57Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I don’t even know if I bothered to mark that race on the ballot. I probably did, but out of habit–who cares about it, except for a few pitiful Republicans desperate to twist some stats to make a cheap shot?
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> And yeah, although the vote went exactly the way I expected it to, I wish I could think better of my fellow North Carolinians.

I was just pointing out that 20% of those voting in the Dem primary took the time to select No Preference instead of selecting Obama. Seems a bit odd to me

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amendment-one-passes-in-nc/621345/26 "2012-05-09T02:44:36Z")

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> [@flickster](#):
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> I was just pointing out that 20% of those voting in the Dem primary took the time to select No Preference instead of selecting Obama. Seems a bit odd to me

Why?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amendment-one-passes-in-nc/621345/27 "2012-05-09T02:48:05Z")

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> [@flickster](#):
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> I was just pointing out that 20% of those voting in the Dem primary took the time to select No Preference instead of selecting Obama. Seems a bit odd to me

There are around 2.7 million registered Democrats in North Carolina, and about a third of them voted tonight. Around 20 percent of that third voted ‘No Preference.’ A low-turnout election like that can produce weird results.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amendment-one-passes-in-nc/621345/28 "2012-05-09T02:48:50Z")

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> [@jtgain](#):
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> No. I thought Elections was a place for discussion about issues related to the election. Didn’t realize there needed to be a debate. Please move as needed.

So you have no comment for a giant steaming pile of bigotry? We have this hateful act against innocent people, and you have no comment?

You lack even basic human sympathy for the innocent people this hateful act hurts?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amendment-one-passes-in-nc/621345/29 "2012-05-09T02:56:07Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> There are around 2.7 million registered Democrats in North Carolina, and about a third of them voted tonight. Around 20 percent of that third voted ‘No Preference.’ A low-turnout election like that can produce weird results.

Which works out to only about 7% of registered Dems.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amendment-one-passes-in-nc/621345/30 "2012-05-09T03:06:47Z")

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Meh, people’s dicks get all hard over poll results that make them happy, but honestly nothing that happens between now and October 1st or so matters, because most people have the attention spans of mayflies on meth.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amendment-one-passes-in-nc/621345/31 "2012-05-09T04:00:45Z")

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> [@jtgain](#):
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> [http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/05/08/2052643/marriage-amendment-latest-results.html](http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/05/08/2052643/marriage-amendment-latest-results.html)
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> Weeping and gnashing of teeth to follow on the SDMB..

> [@DianaG](#):
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> Meh, people’s dicks get all hard over poll results that make them happy, but honestly nothing that happens between now and October 1st or so matters, because most people have the attention spans of mayflies on meth.

And what happens when a hard dick meets gnashing teeth? 😃

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amendment-one-passes-in-nc/621345/32 "2012-05-09T04:02:58Z")

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Personally, I think it’s sad, but the voters spoke.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amendment-one-passes-in-nc/621345/33 "2012-05-09T04:04:29Z")

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> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#):
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> Do you have a position on this?
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> If no debate to follow, I request this thread be moved to the pit.

Yeah, pit this. I need permission to go apeshit on the religious agenda-- the only agenda-- behind this bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amendment-one-passes-in-nc/621345/34 "2012-05-09T04:05:34Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> Personally, I think it’s sad, but the voters spoke.

I assume you’d be similarly accepting if the voters thought \*you \*shouldn’t be able to get married?

Rights for minorities shouldn’t be up for popular vote. In my opinion, of course.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amendment-one-passes-in-nc/621345/35 "2012-05-09T04:13:41Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Yeah, pit this. I need permission to go apeshit on the religious agenda-- the only agenda-- behind this bullshit.

There’s already a [Pit thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=651164)

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amendment-one-passes-in-nc/621345/36 "2012-05-09T04:17:22Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> Personally, I think it’s sad, but the voters spoke.

I think this is the first time you actually remind me of your dad.

(Not that I think gonzomax is homophobic (the sissy poodle thread notwithstanding), but it’s just the first time I’ve seen you post something that made me go “WTF?” like he so often did.)

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amendment-one-passes-in-nc/621345/37 "2012-05-09T11:40:08Z")

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I’m not ready to condemn the whole state. It might well be that they are split roughly 50-50 on gay marriage, just like the rest of the US. The trouble is, a much larger percentage of those opposed to gay rights come out and vote compared to those in favor. This is something the Republicans have known for years, recall in 2004 the anti-gay measure put on the November ballot allowed Bush to get close enough to steal the election. Yes, the anti-gay bigots are on the wrong side of history. Put this on the 2024 ballot and I think (and hope) that the results will be different. But right now as it stands, the anti-gay bigots are much more motivated to come out to the polls and until the good-minded people can match their enthusiasm, this is what you’re going to get.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amendment-one-passes-in-nc/621345/38 "2012-05-09T11:50:24Z")

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> [@flickster](#):
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> I was just pointing out that 20% of those voting in the Dem primary took the time to select No Preference instead of selecting Obama. Seems a bit odd to me

Obama’s 79.20% looks pretty good next to Romney’s 65.66%.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amendment-one-passes-in-nc/621345/39 "2012-05-09T12:19:12Z")

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> [@flickster](#):
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> I was just pointing out that 20% of those voting in the Dem primary took the time to select No Preference instead of selecting Obama. Seems a bit odd to me

How about in WV, a federal prisoner serving 17 years gets 40% of the Dem primary vote against Obama:

> **[How unpopular can Obama get? Texas INMATE gets 40 per cent of votes against...](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2141657/Texas-INMATE-gets-40-cent-votes-Obama-West-Virginia-primary.html)**
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> Texas inmate Keith Judd, pictured, received every four out of ten votes in West Virginia, with President Obama winning six out of ten. Judd is serving 17 years for extortion at the Beaumont Federal Correctional Institution.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amendment-one-passes-in-nc/621345/40 "2012-05-09T12:21:35Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> You’re in the correct forum. I was asking if you had anything to say beyond stating the election result, which anyone can see on TV or on the net. Further comment from you might make the OP sound less like a taunt to some people.

My position is evolving. I apologize if the OP seems like a taunt. The only thing I am taunting is posters on this board that just can’t fathom that there are two sides to this issue, without resort to insults to one side.

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