# America Bashing by MHL: Jealousy, Bigotry, or Ignorance? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 8, 2000, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826 "2000-02-08T20:01:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mr.Zambezi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7cd45c/32.png) [@Mr.Zambezi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Zambezi)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/1 "2000-02-08T20:01:00Z")
Posted by Mary Hart’s legs on the “Bill of no rights” thread: > [@](#): > > Allow my heart to pump purple puppy piss in pride for the the Sickest nation on earth -America. > It does make me sooo sick to listen to how great American Foreign Policy is when the last century provide ample proof America is the Number one Terrorist state in the world. > > American interests have funded the destruction of every Central American country that has ever made the attempt to for an independant and democratic nationalistic government that didn’t suit the American interest. Now, if I said similarly derogatory things about another country, it would sound like I was bigoted. For example, when Nightgirl goes off about the “mexicans” or the “Japs” Mary Hart’s Legs here seems to think that the converse is true with the US: That he who is proud of the US is a moron. Furthermore, the statments are, at best hyperbolic. Clearly this was meant as an insult to those of us who Like the US. And I would like to point out, Mary, that thinking highly of one’s country is not the same as either a) pissing on all other countries or b) agreeing with every single thing that one’s country does. So is she jealous, ignorant or bigoted? {BTW, anyone know what country she is from?} ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Zambezi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7cd45c/32.png) [@Mr.Zambezi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Zambezi)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/2 "2000-02-08T20:07:00Z")
Whoops, just saw that MHL is from Canada. ---
**Author:** ![Prose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Prose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prose)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/3 "2000-02-08T20:50:00Z")
she is neither. Though Canada is highly Americanized by pop culture, swarms of trash on the television, we are not as nearly as insipid as Americans. But there are also many other countries are can be just as ingorant and corrupt as the U.S. In fact, there are too many countries who are more so corrupt than the U.S., the problem being is that the U.S. silently sanctions the behaviour of those governments by not letting got of debt incurred, by putting trade sanctions on those countries, so that even if the countries wanted to do trade to create some sort of infastructure, they couldn’t because there’s no money. The U.S. should adopt the "back-door"policy that Canada has(flog me for all I care, we’re making a difference). This being with Cuba, through medicines, and various medical facilities. With China is business, trade, putting people to work-if you work, you can afford food… Besides too, why would we want to be American when we have everything you do, and a whole lot fucking more. Many of the best or most popular(whether I like them matters not) directors, actors, comedians, and musicians come out of Canada. Leslie Neilson, Martin Short, Jim Carrey, Atom Egoyan, Sarah Polley, David Cronenburg, Norman Jewison, James Cameron, Mike Myers, Alanis Morrisette(I don’t like but is popular), Celin Dion(I don’t like but is popular), Eric Clapton(his father was part of the Canadian military during WW2), Moist, Treble Charger, The Tragically Hip, The Matthew Goode Band, Sarah McLachlan, Wild Strawberries, Ashley McIssac, Bryan Adams(done so much for breast cancer research) Even two of the world’s largest supermodels came from Canada: Linda Evangelista, and Shalome. And hockey: Wayne Gretzky. Plus a thousand other accomplishments, but this is taking too long already. quote me, do whatever, it doesn’t really matter, because just because we’re smaller than you doesn’t mean that we haven’t got lots to give, and there’s so much more to us than there is in any of you. Oh yeah penicillin, a Canadian doctor discovered and perfected that. Know where Disney gets probably close to half it’s animators? Sheridan College in Southern Ontario Know where Microsoft gets many of it’s programmmers? That’s Waterloo, in Southern Ontario. Know why so many more Canadians are less sick than Americans (despite huge cutbacks), that’s because of OHIP-medical coverage. anyways have a great day 😃 * * * I am a fire whose flames lick and spit at the boundless sky forever desiring wonderous consummation -me ---
**Author:** ![Prose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Prose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prose)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/4 "2000-02-08T20:57:00Z")
I forgot John Candy, Blue Rodeo,in my fevor. And the fact that our Prime Ministers(that’s right,President no thankx) doesn’t have all sorts of sorrid backgrounds, and even when they do NO ONE CARES HERE, for christ sakes Americans care too much about what happens in everyone elses fucking life. ## And there has only been one assassination in Canadian history during the 1800’s, Upper Canada-on a man named Mcgee(I believe, it’s been a while since gr.8 history class). Where as American’s are constantly turning their heads to see what boogyman is behind them. sheesh, Billy Bishop Great Big Sea I am a fire whose flames lick and spit at the boundless sky forever desiring wonderous consummation -me ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/5 "2000-02-08T20:59:00Z")
What? Prose, I think you should either re-write your post or change your user name. I Americans may be more insipid, but Canadians are more vapid. ---
**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/6 "2000-02-08T21:00:00Z")
Ah, dear sweet Prose. While I (and many others regardless of homeland) could parse your posts into bite-sized tidbits of insipidity, I choose to instead let your statements as a whole speak for themselves. * * * Have you voted for your favorite, huggable Mullinator today? ---
**Author:** ![cleosia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@cleosia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cleosia)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/7 "2000-02-08T21:01:00Z")
Prose, If Canada is so great, why are all the people you mention coming to America? 😛 * * * Bitch by Birth ---
**Author:** ![Geoff\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Geoff\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geoff_K)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/8 "2000-02-08T21:01:00Z")
Those Canadians are so cute. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![PUNdit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3da27b/32.png) [@PUNdit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PUNdit)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/9 "2000-02-08T21:02:00Z")
Prose stated: > [@](#): > > Oh yeah penicillin, a Canadian doctor discovered and perfected that. ## Er, no. Penicillin was discovered by Sir Alexander Fleming, an English Doctor. The method for producing large quantities of usable penicillin was developed by a joint effort of drug companies in the US and England. “You can be smart or pleasant. For years I was smart. I recommend pleasant.” Elwood P. Dowd ---
**Author:** ![Prose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Prose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prose)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/10 "2000-02-08T21:02:00Z")
Michael Ondaatje(The English Patient) Timothy Findley Farley Mowat(Never Cry Wolf) Margret Atwood(Alias Grace, Handmaid’s Tale) Leonard Cohen(one of the world’s greatest poets) whew, this list is quite long. * * * I am a fire whose flames lick and spit at the boundless sky forever desiring wonderous consummation -me ---
**Author:** ![Prose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Prose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prose)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/11 "2000-02-08T21:03:00Z")
why are they coming to America? great question since they all live here, and only work there * * * I am a fire whose flames lick and spit at the boundless sky forever desiring wonderous consummation -me ---
**Author:** ![Prose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Prose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prose)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/12 "2000-02-08T21:06:00Z")
question for you, why are more and more movies being shot in Canada? because it’s cheaper and cleaner. Question, why does America ship so much of it’s hazardas waste here to Canada?( I don’t know why we let them, I’m not government) ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/13 "2000-02-08T21:18:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Though Canada is highly Americanized by pop culture… And then you go to compile a tremendous list of Canadian pop culture figures as proud accomplishments. Oh, the irony! ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/14 "2000-02-08T21:19:00Z")
My God. I’m not anti-Canadian in the slightest, but would a different Canadian get in here to defend their homeland? This is getting pretty fucking ugly with Prose being the only defender. ---
**Author:** ![ReservoirDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8edcca/32.png) [@ReservoirDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReservoirDog)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/15 "2000-02-08T21:20:00Z")
Sounds like _somebody_ has got an inferiority complex. On your list of “talent”, is that the world famous Treble Charger, or just somebody we’ve never heard of? Oh, and don’t be too proud of Martin Short, for cryin’ out loud. I don’t go bragging about Gilbert Gottfried. Or did you bastards send him to us as well? ---
**Author:** ![Prose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Prose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prose)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/16 "2000-02-08T21:23:00Z")
irony…yes very ironic since it wasn’t only popculture I listed, but you didn’t answer my question. here’s 3 more, Marconi(emmigrated to Canada, became a Canadian citizen) Alexander Graham Bell(Scottish emmigrant, Canadian citizen) And the man who created time zones(name eludes me now)also a Canadian citizen ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Zambezi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7cd45c/32.png) [@Mr.Zambezi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Zambezi)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/17 "2000-02-08T21:23:00Z")
Actually, I love Canada. I spent much time there during my first 18 years and go back whenever I can. Why do you feel the need to stand up for Canada by bashing the US? Why not pick on France. Sheesh, like we are all keeping a count of who has more successfull actors to determine which country is better. Now leave us at once or we shall taunt you again! BTW, anyone notice that Prose and MHL both showed up at teh same time and have roughly the same number of posts? * * * “The robbed that smile, Steal something from the thief.” —WS, Othello I.III.204 ---
**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/18 "2000-02-08T21:25:00Z")
I just don’t get it. Most of my friends are Anti-American. Hell, even my son is. Their reasons are too numerous to mention here, so let me just say that the vast majority of those reasons don’t hold up to scrutinity. Some of the reasons are only partially right, some are vague, some are prejudicial, and the vast majority are just plain fucking wrong. It frustrates me to no end. And what pisses me off the most is the fact that it’s a lucky thing America is our next door neighbour, otherwise we would have been easily conquered by any country in the world, including the frigging Vatican. But we Canadians are too moronic to know that. Fuck, I hate America bashing. I am so fucking sick and tired of it that no one dares mention it in my presence anymore because it always degenerates into a shouting match. Get your facts straight people, or just shut the fuck up! I feel a little better now. ---
**Author:** ![Prose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Prose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prose)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/19 "2000-02-08T21:25:00Z")
no Gilbert’s all yours, and as for Treble Charger, of course you wouldn’t know them-they’re still too small. You wouldn’t know half the talent that comes out of this country even though it’s on your television screens 24/7/365 ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/20 "2000-02-08T21:28:00Z")
Prose is doing for Canadians what Sentinal has done for Americans. * * * Elmer J. Fudd, Millionaire. I own a mansion and a yacht. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826.md?page=2)