# America Bashing by MHL: Jealousy, Bigotry, or Ignorance?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 8, 2000, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826 "2000-02-08T20:01:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Prose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prose)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/21 "2000-02-08T21:29:00Z")

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gee I didn’t notice even who MHL was, until the thread came up.

😃  
anyways, why bash anymore since in my heart I know I’d never live there(the U.S.) and will only be happy here.  
'Nuff said.  
my last post on this inane subject

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I am a fire whose flames lick and spit at the boundless sky forever desiring wonderous consummation  
-me

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**Author:** ![Mr.Zambezi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7cd45c/32.png) [@Mr.Zambezi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Zambezi)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/22 "2000-02-08T21:31:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> question for you, why are more and more movies being shot in Canada?  
> because it’s cheaper and cleaner.  
> Question, why does America ship so much of it’s hazardas waste here to Canada?( I don’t know why we let them, I’m not government)

Well, since you asked…Canada is **not** cheaper than the us. It is a lot more expensive because of your weak currency, high taxes and that fact that you rely heavily on imports. Christ, the times I have been to Canada I can’t believe how expensive it is.

Clean, yes, Canada is clean and the people, as they are in most places, are wonderful.

Canada let’s them bring in the hazardous waste because they need the money.

I know that there has to be somebody more fun to flame than this.

John Doozle: Welsh janitor (came to US and changed citizenship  
Joe whogivesafuck: Polish Monkey Spanker (Came to US, Died while taking citizenship test.)

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**Author:** ![Squee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@Squee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squee)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/23 "2000-02-08T21:37:00Z")

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Here is another [Canadian’s opinion](http://www.snopes.com/quotes/sinclair.htm) of Americans.

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The most rewarding part was when I got my money!  
-Dr. Nick Riviera

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**Author:** ![Squee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@Squee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squee)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/24 "2000-02-08T21:38:00Z")

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Here is another [Canadian’s opinion](http://www.snopes.com/quotes/sinclair.htm) of Americans.

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The most rewarding part was when I got my money!  
-Dr. Nick Riviera

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**Author:** ![Squee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@Squee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squee)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/25 "2000-02-08T21:40:00Z")

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Damn…so good I had to post it twice.  
Sorry…

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/26 "2000-02-08T21:50:00Z")

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Well, that was fun.

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**Author:** ![ReservoirDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8edcca/32.png) [@ReservoirDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReservoirDog)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2000, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/27 "2000-02-08T21:58:00Z")

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> Originally posted by Prose:  
> **You wouldn’t know half the talent that comes out of this country even though it’s on your television screens 24/7/365**

I agree, but I wonder why that is? Most folks simply do not know that many of “our” entertainers are from up north. Is it because most Americans and Canadians are just so damned similar, in culture, in dress, in accent? Do the Hollywood hopefuls from Canada intentionally obscure their heritage, for fear of bias? _Is_ there any bias toward Canadians (besides on this board), meaning does anyone really think that the masses would be less likely to accept their work if they knew they were not American?

We know that Ar-nuld is from Austria, Mr. Connery is from Scotland, etc, etc. I guess maybe it is the accents, or lack thereof.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2000, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/28 "2000-02-09T03:34:00Z")

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My guess would be that a Canadian in Hollywood would be looking for work, not “work as a Canadian.” I can’t remember ever hearing about a Canadian actor _hiding_ their nationality; they just don’t make an issue of it.

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Tom~

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**Author:** ![Crystalguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dbc845/32.png) [@Crystalguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crystalguy)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2000, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/29 "2000-02-09T04:50:00Z")

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Here in South Florida, we are blessed, cursed actually, by an annual influx of Canadians, mostly from Quebec and Montreal. I most sincerely wish that every one of them felt as fervently pro-Canadian as Prose. If they did, maybe they would stay the hell home.

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**Author:** ![Pooch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dbc845/32.png) [@Pooch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pooch)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2000, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/30 "2000-02-09T05:00:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally posted by Prose:  
> **question for you, why are more and more movies being shot in Canada?  
> because it’s cheaper and cleaner.  
> Question, why does America ship so much of it’s hazardas waste here to Canada?( I don’t know why we let them, I’m not government)**

Answer, because it’s cheaper and cleaner.

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**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2000, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/31 "2000-02-09T05:07:00Z")

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Crystalguy, welcome to the club.

The rest of Canada can’t stand Quebecers  
either.

With good cause.

Anybody that wants to flame me on this score should be aware that I am well able to defend this assertion. So come and get me.

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**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2000, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/32 "2000-02-09T05:08:00Z")

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And don’t forget those great Canadians, Mr. Dressup and the Friendly Giant. 🙂

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“Don’t look at me–I’m irrelevant.”

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**Author:** ![neuro-trash\_grrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3ab097/32.png) [@neuro-trash\_grrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neuro-trash_grrrl)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2000, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/33 "2000-02-09T05:24:00Z")

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Terriffic. Americans hate Canadians, Canadians hate Americans, everybody hates Quebecquois. Should we descend into Balkan-style internecine warfare now, or wait a few years?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2000, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/34 "2000-02-09T06:28:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally posted by mouthbreather:  
> \*\*My God.
> 
> I’m not anti-Canadian in the slightest, but would a different Canadian get in here to defend their homeland? This is getting pretty fucking ugly with Prose being the only defender.
> 
> \*\*

MB: That’s because spelling, grammar, and logic (in no special order) are all foreign to Prose as evidenced in her first post in this thread. Sad, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2000, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/35 "2000-02-09T09:18:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Terriffic. Americans hate Canadians, Canadians hate Americans, everybody hates  
> Quebecquois.

Hey, don’t forget Americans hating Americans.  
I hate all those damned loudmouth Americans. At least Canadians can keep their damn mouths shut most of the time 🙂

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**Author:** ![NicePete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ee7513/32.png) [@NicePete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NicePete)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2000, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/36 "2000-02-09T14:57:00Z")

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1. How did this thread get hijacked to Canada? Did anybody bash Canada or Canadians? There are certainly some wonderful folks from there. Gee whiz, sounds like a nice place to live, if you like snow.

2. Wasn’t the OP asking about why it’s OK to stereotype and bash Americans? It’s unacceptable to make these generalizations about anybody else, why can you spout this crap about us? It’s ironic. Your posts supposedly showing our ignorance and crudity demonstrate your own level of intelligence and enlightenment.

3. What the hell does it mean to say a country is “ignorant and corrupt”. Do you mean the land? the government? every person in it?

I consider myself neither ignorant nor corrupt. Of course, I may be mistaken. However, in my wide and varied experience with my fellow countrymen, I have met persons who could ably converse on countless subjects, whose mental facilities were dazzling. Likewise, I have encountered the occasional American moral paragon.

Since we’re throwing around generalizations here, Prose, please provide your descriptions of the following countries:

America: Ignorant and corrupt  
Mexico:  
Italy:  
Poland:  
Japan:  
Russia:  
China:  
Scotland:  
Ireland:  
France:  
Greece:

Now, please describe the following ethnic and/or religious groups:

Jews:  
Blacks:  
Latinos:  
Arabs:  
Asians:

People should be judged as individuals. You should be thankful that the Teeming Millions don’t form their opinions about all Canadians based upon your level of intelligence and development.

## Pinhead.

Plunging like stones from a slingshot on Mars.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Zambezi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7cd45c/32.png) [@Mr.Zambezi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Zambezi)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2000, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/37 "2000-02-09T19:16:00Z")

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Thanks Frank. I wouldn’t mind flaming someone, but I don’t have anything bad to say about Canada, per se. And where is Mary Hart who is always so willing to bash America on other threads but seems unwilling to defend this practice?

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“The robbed that smile,  
Steal something from the thief.” —WS, Othello I.III.204

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**Author:** ![mrblue92](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@mrblue92](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrblue92)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2000, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/38 "2000-02-09T22:19:00Z")

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You guys might want to check out Prose’s [web site](http://publish.uwo.ca/~mrpech/mywebpg.html), especially [this page](http://publish.uwo.ca/~mrpech/mystats.htm) in which she points out “Mom & Dad: yes”. Um… OK… Draw your own conclusions.

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**Author:** ![Squee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@Squee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squee)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2000, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/39 "2000-02-09T22:24:00Z")

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**mrblue92** , what’s your point? Don’t you have parents?

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The most rewarding part was when I got my money!  
-Dr. Nick Riviera

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2000, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/40 "2000-02-10T02:35:00Z")

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I was more impressed that she actually keeps track of where her currants are.

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