# America Bashing by MHL: Jealousy, Bigotry, or Ignorance?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 8, 2000, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826 "2000-02-08T20:01:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2000, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/121 "2000-03-07T16:05:00Z")

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this has been said to me before, thanks…  
and when have i been judgemental towards other people you say?

pointing fingers at mirrors doesnt work so good either.

bj0rn - :o)

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**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2000, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/122 "2000-03-07T16:15:00Z")

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> we Irish like everyone, (well, most of us do, you know what I mean).

does she? i wonder if that is a possibility…at least when you consider her words(the ones that you responded to).

i dont claim to know anything about this issue (i sure hope someone is knowledgeble about it), but i belive this assumption nightgirl made is because of general ignorance and bad news reports where this situation is generally referred to as a dispute between catholics and protestants.  
but accually buying that as the simple truth is just about as silly as it gets.

this is about all i know of that particular subject…i think it would take an expert to explain what is really going on in n-ireland. so ill just shut up about the subject until one has explained to me the details.

bj0rn - thanks…

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2000, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/123 "2000-03-07T16:17:00Z")

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Now that’s more like it, Geiser Boy.

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**Coldfire**  
_Voted **Poster Most Likely To Post Drunk** _

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_ **"You know how complex women are"** _

- Neil Peart, **Rush** (1993)

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2000, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/124 "2000-03-07T16:24:00Z")

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Cheers Bjorn, thanks for the honest reply.

my reference to "you know what I mean) was meant to everyone else, as Im sure that fucking slag wouldnt get it.  
I should have made it more clearer…

If Bj0rn is Geisher Boy, and Coldfire is Clog boy, what does that make me or any of the other “Foreign” Dopers??

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well, at least one person wants to meet me…  
[http://fathom.org/polldata/pollcheck.adp?poll=dope-page5&question=62](http://fathom.org/polldata/pollcheck.adp?poll=dope-page5&question=62)

Cheers!!

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2000, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/125 "2000-03-07T16:28:00Z")

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Well Larrigan, you would be either **Shamrock Boy** or **Guinness Boy**. Take a pick 😃

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**Coldfire**  
_Voted **Poster Most Likely To Post Drunk** _

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_ **"You know how complex women are"** _

- Neil Peart, **Rush** (1993)

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2000, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/126 "2000-03-07T16:35:00Z")

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this is getting a little “MPSIMS” now, but I’ll have “shamrock boy” as its March.

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well, at least one person wants to meet me…  
[http://fathom.org/polldata/pollcheck.adp?poll=dope-page5&question=62](http://fathom.org/polldata/pollcheck.adp?poll=dope-page5&question=62)

Cheers!!

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2000, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/127 "2000-03-07T16:37:00Z")

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Good choice, ya little Irish fucker. Just in case you thought things were getting too comfy in here… Hey! Who else wants to be cussed at??

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**Coldfire**  
_Voted **Poster Most Likely To Post Drunk** _

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_ **"You know how complex women are"** _

- Neil Peart, **Rush** (1993)

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2000, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/128 "2000-03-07T16:58:00Z")

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Ok Clog boy, take your dick out that hole in the dyke thats keeping your country from being washed south and go feltch a lemming… ahhhh… back to normality

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well, at least one person wants to meet me…  
[http://fathom.org/polldata/pollcheck.adp?poll=dope-page5&question=62](http://fathom.org/polldata/pollcheck.adp?poll=dope-page5&question=62)

Cheers!!

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**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2000, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/129 "2000-03-07T17:54:00Z")

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I did some scholarly research and discovered that St. Patrick was not Irish.

He was Ukrainian. It’s been hushed up.

When the snakes saw his face they said, “If you’re staying, we’re leaving.”

My neighbour three doors down is a native Dubliner. My wife says, “Why do you spend time with that guy? He’s completely crazy.”

I told her that she just answered her own question.

I should add that he’s crazy in a very intelligent way. It’s hard to explain.

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**Author:** ![Mary\_Hart\_s\_Legs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e19b73/32.png) [@Mary\_Hart\_s\_Legs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mary_Hart_s_Legs)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2000, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/130 "2000-03-07T22:54:00Z")

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Fuck you Wally!!!

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2000, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/131 "2000-03-07T23:25:00Z")

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I dunno, **MHL**. It took you nine days to come up with a retort that even **NewtonsApple** could have spewed in an hour or so (with some hard thinking).

I think **WallyM7** got it right. Go play with your crayons until its time for your nurse to type your next response.

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Tom~

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**Author:** ![Doobieous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Doobieous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doobieous)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2000, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/132 "2000-03-07T23:28:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally posted by bj0rn:  
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> > You DO know this is an AMERICAN based message board, don’t you??
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> published on an international zone isnt it? so no matter the origins, it will always be “internetional”. dont tell me thats american as well, because it isnt.
> 
> bj0rn - internetlander\*\*

Mon Dieu! Your ignorance astounds me Bjorn! The servers this message board are on are owned by the Chicago Reader, which is based in, of all places the United States! You may have international access to it, but this IS an American web board. JUST because you can access it from snowy Iceland does NOT mean the servers are internationally owned.

and:

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> and another thing, how dare you say im insulting people. that would be the most ignorant sentance ive heard from you, and ive heard enough of them to know you are quite an intelligent sod. its not my fault that people translate my words based on belives on what they think i am saying

How dare you claim you are NOT insulting. It is plain to see from your choice of words that you clearly do intend to insult people whenever you put your frigid little fingers to the keyboard. Language exists to communicate thoughts. And the way you say things DOES affect (It’s not what you say, it’s how you say it) how people perceive them. We don’t think we know what you are saying, we know very clearly EXACTLY what you mean (well some of the time).

## Oh yeah, quit biting off of Nanobyte’s style of ending messages (That’s evil American slang for “quit copying”).

I myself am an incorrigible conlang slut. I love oral lex.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2000, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/133 "2000-03-07T23:40:00Z")

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As a matter of excersise, I would like to say one more thing to bj0rn:

**Putz.**

I’m sure Wally doesn’t mind that I’m warming up a bit, what with me and Watson doing the honours in a day or two and all 😃

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**Coldfire**  
_Voted **Poster Most Likely To Post Drunk** _

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_ **"You know how complex women are"** _

- Neil Peart, **Rush** (1993)

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**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2000, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/134 "2000-03-07T23:43:00Z")

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> Fuck you Wally!!!

Now that’s a fine way for one Canadian to talk to another, you skanky slattern.

Instead of trying to turn tricks at two bucks a throw (hint: drop your price) open a geography book, and after you’re done looking at the pictures, get someone to read some stuff about America to you.

And stop being cranky. Ask for your allowance and go buy some fresh batteries for your vibrator.

Have a nice day.

Putz.

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**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2000, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/135 "2000-03-07T23:46:00Z")

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GF, it’s okay.

You’re the official putzmeister. 🙂

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2000, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/136 "2000-03-08T10:49:00Z")

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Hi Wally. Is he a Northsider or a Southsider?  
Ask him about the differences, it should be good for a laugh!!

## anyway, bj0rn and Doobieous. the board is owned by an american company, but the community on the board is International. does that clear anything up??

well, at least one person wants to meet me…  
[http://fathom.org/polldata/pollcheck.adp?poll=dope-page5&question=62](http://fathom.org/polldata/pollcheck.adp?poll=dope-page5&question=62)

Cheers!!

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**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2000, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/137 "2000-03-08T15:22:00Z")

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> anyway, bj0rn and Doobieous. the board is owned by an american company, but the community on the board is International. does that clear anything up??

cant speak for doobieous, but i understood it before i wrote it.

doob:

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> The servers this message board are on are owned by the Chicago Reader

who cares who owns the servers, or where they are located. they could be located on the north pole for all i care.

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> And the way you say things DOES affect (It’s not what you say, it’s how you say it)

i belive that is also the answer to that statement of yours. point being that you have no idea HOW i am saying the words i am **WRITING**.

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> we know very clearly EXACTLY what you mean (well some of the time).

belive me, if you really knew what i mean, you wouldnt be arguing. more proofs that you do not know what i mean: if you do not belive it when i say; “i am not trying to be insulting”. you clearly do not know what i mean.

bj0rn - who the ¿? is nanobyte?

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**Author:** ![Occam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Occam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Occam)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2000, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/138 "2000-03-08T16:36:00Z")

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Wow Bjorn… they keep kickin’ yeah and you come back for more. At first it was funny (well, ok it was funny all the way through) but it’s getting sad now. I like to fight for the little guy and I’ve never seen anyone smaller than you, Bjorn. This reminds me of the part in “Full Metal Jacket” when all the cadets take turns hitting ‘Gomer Pile’ with pars of soap.

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**Author:** ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2000, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/139 "2000-03-08T23:45:00Z")

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jokes eh?..not from me.  
perhaps you think it is funny, but it is my hope that it isnt.

silly thing that its either funny or pathetic…

bj0rn - ;o)

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**Author:** ![TheMadHun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@TheMadHun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheMadHun)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2000, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-bashing-by-mhl-jealousy-bigotry-or-ignorance/4826/140 "2000-03-14T14:38:00Z")

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PUNdit said:

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> Er, no. Penicillin was discovered by Sir Alexander Fleming, an English Doctor. The method for producing large quantities of usable penicillin was developed by a joint effort of drug companies in the US and England.

I think you’ll find that Alexander Fleming was Scottish.

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