# America is having some technical difficulties... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 13, 2002, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-is-having-some-technical-difficulties/142433 "2002-12-13T04:35:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-is-having-some-technical-difficulties/142433/1 "2002-12-13T04:35:46Z")
[http://www.dubyadubyadubya.com/](http://www.dubyadubyadubya.com/) My feelings precisely! ---
**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-is-having-some-technical-difficulties/142433/2 "2002-12-13T04:40:50Z")
Excellent link Stoid. Thanks. And a hearty amen to that. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-is-having-some-technical-difficulties/142433/3 "2002-12-13T04:44:29Z")
… Because people who can make Flash animations are ALWAYS right… ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-is-having-some-technical-difficulties/142433/4 "2002-12-13T04:49:10Z")
Pass this link around…very cool. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-is-having-some-technical-difficulties/142433/5 "2002-12-13T04:51:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SPOOFE \* > \*\*… Because people who can make Flash animations are ALWAYS right… \*\* Damn straight. “When come back, bring pie.” ---
**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-is-having-some-technical-difficulties/142433/6 "2002-12-13T04:55:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SPOOFE \* > \*\*… Because people who can make Flash animations are ALWAYS right… \*\* I mean no personal offense, but I have to say that’s a pretty weak defense. Could you try to confute some of the actual points? ---
**Author:** ![In\_Conceivable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@In\_Conceivable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/In_Conceivable)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-is-having-some-technical-difficulties/142433/7 "2002-12-13T05:02:50Z")
You mean there were actual points? It looked like meaningless propaganda to me. ---
**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-is-having-some-technical-difficulties/142433/8 "2002-12-13T05:05:17Z")
Points? You mean those vague, unsupported conclusions? ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-is-having-some-technical-difficulties/142433/9 "2002-12-13T05:16:20Z")
**mademoiselle** just taught me a [new word](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=confute). I am going to get to work on a Flash animation immediately, which will prove once and for all that Total World Domination and the Senseless Slaughter of Puppies and Kittens is the only viable course of action for America. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-is-having-some-technical-difficulties/142433/10 "2002-12-13T05:46:10Z")
Now spoofy, don’t be cranky. ;j ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-is-having-some-technical-difficulties/142433/11 "2002-12-13T06:14:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by In Conceivable \* > \*\*You mean there were actual points? It looked like meaningless propaganda to me. \*\* Well, then a good chunk of GD in the past year has been pretty meaningless. ---
**Author:** ![tisiphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tisiphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tisiphone)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-is-having-some-technical-difficulties/142433/12 "2002-12-13T08:13:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Troy McClure SF \* > \*\*Well, then a good chunk of GD in the past year has been pretty meaningless. \*\* Ummm, yeah? So? It entertained the participants, didn’t it? And sometimes, even the bystanders! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-is-having-some-technical-difficulties/142433/13 "2002-12-13T08:23:59Z")
As a Canadian… even I know that was a bunch of a mush-headed crap. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-is-having-some-technical-difficulties/142433/14 "2002-12-13T08:43:02Z")
That’s pretty impressive…for a Canadian. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-is-having-some-technical-difficulties/142433/15 "2002-12-13T10:57:03Z")
Here’s an interesting article to read… [http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE\_ID=29921](http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29921) ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-is-having-some-technical-difficulties/142433/16 "2002-12-13T10:59:17Z")
It was ruined by a single line of liberal preachiness. > [@](#): > > Revoking aid to desperately poor _women and children_… Emphasis original. More than [$5 trillion](http://d55292.new24.yourserver.net/extra/9505/welfare-myths.html) has been spent on the War on Poverty. You should _hope_ to see spending on anti-poverty programs decreasing over time. If you don’t, it means that they are _failing_. AFDC still assists [millions of families](http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/programs/ofa/cfc_fy96.htm). Tens of millions of families still get [food stamps](http://www.ncccusa.org/poverty/by-the-numbers.html). Plus, for people who want to put their money where their flash presentation is, there are all kinds of ways [they can help](http://www.savethechildren.org/). America isn’t losing greatness on account of abandoning the poor. America is losing greatness on account of abandoning its love and vigilance for liberty. ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-is-having-some-technical-difficulties/142433/17 "2002-12-13T11:10:37Z")
I’d also like to see where they get the “shooting _first?_” line from. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-is-having-some-technical-difficulties/142433/18 "2002-12-13T12:09:25Z")
> [@](#): > > If you don’t, it means that they are failing. Yes. It’s clearly time to stop working on the problem, and start ignoring it. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-is-having-some-technical-difficulties/142433/19 "2002-12-13T12:27:11Z")
Just because you’re spinning your wheels doesn’t mean you’re working. And just because someone wants to help you himself, rather than depend on a fat bureaucrat to do it, doesn’t mean he’s ignoring you. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-is-having-some-technical-difficulties/142433/20 "2002-12-13T13:13:04Z")
And just because poverty doesn’t vanish doesn’t mean it’s the _antipoverty_ programs that aren’t working. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-is-having-some-technical-difficulties/142433.md?page=2)