# american beheaded in Iraq, video

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-beheaded-in-iraq-video/244662>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 11, 2004, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-beheaded-in-iraq-video/244662 "2004-05-11T18:23:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-beheaded-in-iraq-video/244662/321 "2004-05-14T15:54:13Z")

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> [@Weirddave](#):
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> Wring, The report details:  
> Item “K”, which I have bolded, seems to me to clearly be an instance of rape, and so I am calling it such. Where in the report do you see any mention of murder?

TO do a slight hijack, in the quoted section I find these statements:

> [@](#):
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> (U) In addition, several detainees also described the following acts of abuse, which under the circumstances, I find credible based on the clarity of their statements and supporting evidence provided by other witnesses (ANNEX 26):  
> a. (U) Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees;  
> \<snip.\>  
> f. (U) Allowing a military police guard to stitch the wound of a detainee who was  
> injured after being slammed against the wall in his cell;

FWIW, the goop in cyalumes is neutral and nontoxic. i wouldnt suggest drinking it, but it _is_ commonly used to make people glow green for halloween, and as pranks.

Also FWIW, the Navy put mrAru through EMT school, the military has a policy of _liking_ to crosstrain possible combatants as EMTs to enhance the ability of personnel to provide medical treatment when the casualty rate would otherwise overwhelm the corpsman and he frequently would care for and suture wounds on the boat. He even ran with Virginia Beach squad 13/Davis Corners for a while. I am pretty certain that when it all comes to a trial, there will be evdence of that particular grunt having taken either the EMT course, or the equivalent ‘first aid’ course., and qualified to suture a simple wound.

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-beheaded-in-iraq-video/244662/322 "2004-05-14T15:55:16Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> Can anyone tell me about the guy wearing a gold ring, which is supposedly not allowed in Islam.

Well, yes. If you go back to the “It’s the same chair !!! OMFG !!” link above, there’s a photo of a guy holding a gun to Pearl’s head. He’s quite clearly wearing a gold ring. So I don’t think there’s any substance to the “Islamic terrorists don’t wear gold rings” angle.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-beheaded-in-iraq-video/244662/323 "2004-05-14T16:06:51Z")

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> [@Desmostylus](#):
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> So I don’t think there’s any substance to the “Islamic terrorists don’t wear gold rings” angle.

I guess the question is, where they actually Islamic terrorists? I would imagine them being more thorough, and remembering to take off a gold ring, but I’m hearing under Islam wearing gold rings is forbidden. That sounds a little ridiculous to me so I was wondering if people heard the same.

Another question.

Does anyone find it even remotely possible the CIA or someone would actually stage an execution in order to “change the music” while this prison uproar is going on?

We’ve done some pretty fucking shady stuff before, why not this?

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-beheaded-in-iraq-video/244662/324 "2004-05-14T16:17:14Z")

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\*_were_ they actually Islamic terrorists?

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**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-beheaded-in-iraq-video/244662/325 "2004-05-14T16:29:15Z")

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> [@Desmostylus](#):
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> Um, I think everyone knows that, dude. We’re doin’ the tinfoil thing here at the moment.

Just as I thought! Another plot by the bauxite interests to boost sales!

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-beheaded-in-iraq-video/244662/326 "2004-05-14T16:49:00Z")

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Sorry if I missed this, but where is Bergs body now? Are we 100 percent sure that he is the one on the tape and that he is dead?  
An autopsy would clear up whether or not he was dead already or not.

Also, **gobear** Kudos to you for sticking to your guns and also for admitting when you are wrong.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-beheaded-in-iraq-video/244662/327 "2004-05-14T16:55:08Z")

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> [@Uncommon Sense](#):
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> Sorry if I missed this, but where is Bergs body now? Are we 100 percent sure that he is the one on the tape and that he is dead?  
> An autopsy would clear up whether or not he was dead already or not.

They just flew it into Dover AFB. The Department of defense denied the request of the family to be there when it came in.

Nice guys eh?

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**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-beheaded-in-iraq-video/244662/328 "2004-05-14T18:29:29Z")

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I’m not sure how to bring this to you, guys, but have you heard that John F. Kennedy’s death might have been a conspiracy? :eek:

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-beheaded-in-iraq-video/244662/329 "2004-05-14T18:51:13Z")

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> [@gum](#):
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> I’m not sure how to bring this to you, guys, but have you heard that John F. Kennedy’s death might have been a conspiracy? :eek:

There is something fishy here, seriously. I don’t know what yet, but it’ll come out.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-beheaded-in-iraq-video/244662/330 "2004-05-14T18:55:59Z")

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…I’d just like to point out this e-mail sent to papers that carry _Doonesbury_ today:

> [@](#):
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> From: Kerr Kathie  
> To: [undisclosed recipients]  
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 10:59 AM  
> Subject: Attention Doonesbury Clients.  
> May 14, 2004
> 
> Dear Editor,  
> In an unfortunate coincidence, the Doonesbury Sunday for May 23,  
> which was drawn in April, contains the image of a head on a platter.  
> Given its timing following the recent grisly tragedy in Iraq, and the  
> realities of Sunday color production cycles, we felt we should call this to your attention.
> 
> Lee Salem  
> Editor  
> Universal Press Syndicate

5/23 is of special significance to the Illuminati, of course. Beyond that, "“Salem” is a transliteration of the Hebrew word for “peace,” which is also rendered as “Salome,” bringing us back to a head on a platter in the Middle East.

(And don’t get me started on the [Fernando POE incident](http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?section=PROVINCIAL&oid=51037). _Robots!_)

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