# American Dopers use the word "fuck" like the Smurfs use the word "smurf" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 26, 2001, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749 "2001-10-26T10:41:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749/21 "2001-10-26T13:12:32Z")
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Fucky Smurf. ---
**Author:** ![aegypt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/76d3ee/32.png) [@aegypt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aegypt)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749/22 "2001-10-26T13:16:06Z")
Bizarre factoid alert: In Swedish, the word “fukt” means “moisture”. You can even buy Fukt Creme! And, **Zaphod** , you’re just trying to cover up the well known fact that the Smurfs are an experimental Marxist community - the name “Smurf” is an acronym for “Socialist Men Under a Red Father” (that is, Papa Smurf). [Cite](http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/redriver/415/smurf.html). The cartoon is just a nefarious way to turn little children into Commies, just like Scooby Doo gives them an urge to smoke pot and Bert and Ernie makes them (gasp!) gay. ---
**Author:** ![flodnak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/838e76/32.png) [@flodnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flodnak)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749/23 "2001-10-26T13:17:05Z")
Smurf you. ---
**Author:** ![Zaphod\_Beeblebrox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/0ea827/32.png) [@Zaphod\_Beeblebrox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zaphod_Beeblebrox)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749/24 "2001-10-26T13:21:10Z")
**aegypt** , the problem with this whole theory is that “Smurf” is merely a translation of the original French name. I doubt that Peyo had a hand in choosing that name in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749/25 "2001-10-26T13:29:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by aegypt \* > \*\*That doth it, **Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor**! > > > [@](#): > > > > Thou art the veriest varlet that ever chewed with a tooth. [Henry IV, part I] > > Don’t make me quote the Bard at thee again. \*\* If the Bard ever crossed your path, he would, tavern brawler that he was, ram a sword up your ass to keep the flying monkeys from coming out! Also---- 😛 ---
**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749/26 "2001-10-26T13:34:50Z")
Oh dear. Hoist by his rejected Bard ---
**Author:** ![aegypt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/76d3ee/32.png) [@aegypt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aegypt)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749/27 "2001-10-26T13:35:37Z")
Yes **Zaphod** , but “Schtroumpf” (pronounced “Ch-Trough-mm-ppff”, by the way) is probably just an acronym for something equally sinister in French. So there. Just to prove that this is an international conspiracy, here are the names of the Smurfs in different languages: French: Schtroumpf English: Smurf Brazilian: Strunf Chinese: Lan-shin-lin (“Little blue spirits”) Greek: Strumpf German: schlumpfe Spanish: Pitufo Italian: Puffo Japanese: Sumafu Portuguese: Schtroumpf Swedish: Smurferna American: Fucks (awright, just kidding) ---
**Author:** ![Dragonblink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dragonblink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragonblink)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749/28 "2001-10-26T13:36:20Z")
_ahem_ To use the word as an adverb, it is common to use the present participle/gerund form (they look the same, and it’s been a while since I studied grammar, since they’re practically prohibited from teaching it anymore). Example: I can’t fucking believe I’m fucking sitting here at six AM, fucking lecturing people who know more than I do about grammar. Am I correct in supposing all three uses in that sentence are adverbs, or at least adverb-flavored constructions? Dragonfuck, I mean Dragonsmurf ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749/29 "2001-10-26T13:44:39Z")
Every fucking Latin scholar fucking knows that a fucking gerund **ive** is a pass **ive** fucking adject **ive**. That’s what my teacher told me, at any rate. Don’t tell me he lied, it’d hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Wright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Steve\_Wright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_Wright)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749/30 "2001-10-26T13:45:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mersavets \* > \*\*Steve Wright, I don’t agree. By your reasoning, you are suggesting that present participles as a part of speech are a subset of adjectives. They traditionally aren’t classified as such in English. Present Participles _are_ a type of verb but I said that already. I can also see how fucking might function as an adverb but it just doesn’t do it for me as an adjective.f \*\* Um. In all the stuff I’ve read on the subject, a participle is an adjective formed from a verb. In many languages, they even decline as adjectives (difficult to decline adjectives in English, I know) - as, for example [Latin](http://ds.dial.pipex.com/town/lane/xvv88/Home/lang/latin/latin08.htm) (around the bottom of the page). Yes, I know English isn’t Latin, but English traditional grammar teaching uses a lot of Latin grammar concepts (sometimes when they don’t fit, but I don’t think that applies here). So, um, if you seriously object to participles being classed as adjectives, you must have been reading very different textbooks on grammar from me. And, in a pure spirit of inquiry, I’m going to ask you what they are. 'Cause, if you’re right, I’ve been seriously misinformed for many years. (Yes, I am trying to be very calm and polite. I can still taste the soap after my last post. Ick.) ---
**Author:** ![aegypt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/76d3ee/32.png) [@aegypt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aegypt)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749/31 "2001-10-26T13:53:32Z")
> [@](#): > > If the Bard ever crossed your path, he would, tavern brawler that he was, ram a sword up your ass to keep the flying monkeys from coming out! Aaargh! My old nemesis, the Bard! The only one who is immune to my insults! Otherwise, I had a good one Googl’d up: > [@](#): > > Methink’st thou art a general offence and every man should beat thee. > > (All’s Well That Ends Well, Act II, Scene 3) Zounds! ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749/32 "2001-10-26T14:00:31Z")
I recently saw a tee shirt emblazoned with the message: “Fuck you, you fucking fuckelty fuck.” I absofuckinglutely thought it over the fucking top. ---
**Author:** ![coffeecat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coffeecat/32/3405_2.png) [@coffeecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coffeecat)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749/33 "2001-10-26T14:00:59Z")
Fucking is more fun than using “whilst.” To say nothing of smurfs. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749/34 "2001-10-26T14:04:36Z")
Boy, am I ever petard out after reading all this fucking stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749/35 "2001-10-26T14:46:20Z")
What the smurf are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749/36 "2001-10-26T16:08:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by aegypt \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > If the Bard ever crossed your path, he would, tavern brawler that he was, ram a sword up your ass to keep the flying monkeys from coming out! > > Aaargh! My old nemesis, the Bard! The only one who is immune to my insults! > > Otherwise, I had a good one Googl’d up: > > > [@](#): > > > > Methink’st thou art a general offence and every man should beat thee. > > > > (All’s Well That Ends Well, Act II, Scene 3) > > Zounds! \*\* you win the prize, **aegypt**! Said prize being a turban, a bullseye T-shirt & an airline ticket to Afghanastan. Enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749/37 "2001-10-26T16:10:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \* > \*\*What the smurf are you talking about? \*\* SWINE! ---
**Author:** ![Creaky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e68b1a/32.png) [@Creaky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Creaky)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749/38 "2001-10-26T17:27:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zaphod Beeblebrox \* > \*\*Isn’t it interesting that Pierre Culliford chose “Peyo” as a _nom de plume_? I mean, that does remind one of “peyote,” does it not? \*\* Wait, hang on… Doesn’t “peyo” mean “fart” in Spanish??? Or maybe it’s spelled “peo”… I can’t remember! Well, maybe it’s a play on the sound of the word?? (Ay, que gran peo! Que rico! Que delicioso! Voy a buscarme mas!) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749/39 "2001-10-26T17:44:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor \* > > SWINE! \*\* Yeah, i need to watch my smurfin’ language! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2001, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749/40 "2001-10-26T17:51:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mersavets \* > \*\*How is it used as an adjective? \*\* Normally combined with a noun in a compound word, as in “That fuckwad Mersavets is such a fuckface, he even fuckin’ says ‘whilst’ like a Britfuck Limey fairy.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dopers-use-the-word-fuck-like-the-smurfs-use-the-word-smurf/89749.md?page=3)