# American Dreams (11/22 - spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dreams-11-22-spoilers/276130>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 22, 2004, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dreams-11-22-spoilers/276130 "2004-11-22T17:18:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dreams-11-22-spoilers/276130/1 "2004-11-22T17:18:57Z")

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I think this is a perfect place to end the series. Mostly everything is wrapped up, the loose ends aren’t very interesting (except maybe JJ coping with life in the normal world), and it’s at an emotional high.

I don’t have too many other comments, since the show is pretty mindless to watch - everything is laid out on the table in front of you. But I cannot believe they put out that Ford commercial at the end. I didn’t catch the whole thing - was it just an extended commercial meant to be tied into the show, or was it a bit more of a hybrid (i.e. is there anything plot-related I need to know?)?

Have to say that I’m a little surprised to see a Christmas episode before Thanksgiving, but maybe NBC is planning on a month of Christmas specials for Sunday night.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dreams-11-22-spoilers/276130/2 "2004-11-22T17:22:34Z")

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The extra-long commercial was because there were no commercials during the show – and no, there was no direct tie-in to the show.

Good ep – I’ve been watching this show since it started, and although I don’t tape when I’m not home, I’m still watching.

I knew that was going to be Linda Ronstadt! That was a nice touch.

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**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dreams-11-22-spoilers/276130/3 "2004-11-23T02:14:31Z")

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Is that the end of the series? I thought NBC ordered more episodes than that this year. And how many has it been anyway?

And yep - good episode. We watched it on tape tonight. Only problem was the Roxanne scenes, which I was quite tempted to fast-forward past. 😉

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**Author:** ![Jessity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@Jessity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jessity)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dreams-11-22-spoilers/276130/4 "2004-11-23T02:50:12Z")

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Am I the only person who thought that commercial was a little tacky?

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**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dreams-11-22-spoilers/276130/5 "2004-11-23T03:09:14Z")

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> [@Jessity](#):
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> Am I the only person who thought that commercial was a little tacky?

lol - I hope not. Hello melodrama. After five minutes I was shouting “Just give the kid the damn Ford already!”

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dreams-11-22-spoilers/276130/6 "2004-11-23T03:14:32Z")

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> [@Slacker](#):
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> Only problem was the Roxanne scenes, which I was quite tempted to fast-forward past. 😉

Really? I like Roxanne. She’s got moxie.

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**Author:** ![Agrippina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@Agrippina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agrippina)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dreams-11-22-spoilers/276130/7 "2004-11-23T04:06:20Z")

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I’ve been wanting to watch this show again, but unfortunately it’s on at the same time as “Arrested Development”. I would have watched it if they said JJ was coming home (usually I keep up with what’s happening based on the episode descriptions).

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dreams-11-22-spoilers/276130/8 "2004-11-23T13:45:59Z")

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> [@Slacker](#):
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> Is that the end of the series?

Not that I know of. I’m just saying that it’s a good time for \*\*me \*\* to end the series, because so many things are wrapped up. I usually watch a series through to the bitter end, and usually get pissed off because they drag it out to long. This time, I’m going out on a high note.

And I like Roxanne as well. Moxie is the perfect one-word summation of her.

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**Author:** ![Agrippina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@Agrippina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agrippina)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-dreams-11-22-spoilers/276130/9 "2004-11-23T14:33:42Z")

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I always imagined JJ coming back and he and Meg start fighting about the Vietnam War.

I didn’t see it, so what’s the deal with JJ’s ex-fiance and his son? Will they live together? Get married? Still live in the Pryor’s house? Any new updates with the black family?
