# American Election

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-election/633632>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 4, 2012, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-election/633632 "2012-09-04T11:20:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-election/633632/21 "2012-09-04T20:11:48Z")

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> [@Ellen\_Cherry](#):
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> We have an election forum. Moving this thread there, from IMHO.

Gee, thank you ever so much for that!

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-election/633632/22 "2012-09-04T21:30:09Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Duh, I get it. It’d be a rebuttal to Obama’s 2008 “Yes, We Can!”

Fun fact: Obama is actually dyslexic. He spent the whole campaign unsuccessfully trying to give a shout out to his good friend Kanye West.

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**Author:** ![conway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ec9cab/32.png) [@conway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/conway)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-election/633632/23 "2012-09-04T21:36:02Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> And that, my friends, is how Mitt took control of the Jenny Jones audience member demo.

Wow, a 2012 Jenny Jones reference. I’m impressed.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-election/633632/24 "2012-09-04T22:16:45Z")

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> [@conway](#):
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> Wow, a 2012 Jenny Jones reference. I’m impressed.

We’re talking about the Romney campaign. Jenny Jones qualifies as a current pop culture reference.

This is the campaign where Paul Ryan name-dropped Led Zeppelin in making a joke about how much hipper he was than Mitt Romney.

Seriously, when was the last time Led Zeppelin was considered relevant? 1977?

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-election/633632/25 "2012-09-04T22:18:10Z")

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> [@conway](#):
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> Wow, a 2012 Jenny Jones reference. I’m impressed.

Bitch ruined the Oilers forever.

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-election/633632/26 "2012-09-04T22:24:45Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> We’re talking about the Romney campaign. Jenny Jones qualifies as a current pop culture reference.
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> This is the campaign where Paul Ryan name-dropped Led Zeppelin in making a joke about how much hipper he was than Mitt Romney.
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> Seriously, when was the last time Led Zeppelin was considered relevant? 1977?

Well, to be fair, that reference did go over like a … a … well, something that doesn’t become airborne very easily.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-election/633632/27 "2012-09-04T22:27:58Z")

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> [@For You](#):
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> “Shouting from the rooftops at every rally”? What an odd way to put it, Willard is going all out for the chimney sweep vote? Shades of Mary Poppins.

Never mind the rooftop part; I can’t even imagine Romney raising his voice.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-election/633632/28 "2012-09-04T22:32:15Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> And of course DEMOCRATS, God bless their pure little souls, never **EVER** lie…! :rolleyes:

Perfectly OK for Republicans to lie if you can find some case where a Democrat did, correct? Got it.

And regarding the OP, thank you. You have convinced me with your mighty three-word slogan that there’s no further need to look at all those complicated issues and stuff.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-election/633632/29 "2012-09-05T00:50:56Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Perfectly OK for Republicans to lie if you can find some case where a Democrat did, correct? Got it.

Wrong. **Everybody** does it and it’s **always** reprehensible. But humanity being what it is, I’m sure the tradition will live on.

Not believing Democrats would make me a Republican only if you think in one dimension. I haven’t bothered to vote since 1988, and I probably never will again because (a) I recognize what a farce the system is (and it gets worse every four years) and (b) I just no longer give a good goddamn.

If you think whoever you vote for in November will matter one way or another, you’re certifiably delusional, IMHO. The United States has been running on pure inertia for most of my adult life.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-election/633632/30 "2012-09-05T01:03:08Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Not believing Democrats would make me a Republican only if you think in one dimension.

Hey, don’t get mad at me for connecting the dot.

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**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-election/633632/31 "2012-09-05T04:34:09Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> I would shout it at an empty chair to show America that I really meant business.

I say that you win the thread, but it isn’t much of a thread.

> [@terentii](#):
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> And of course DEMOCRATS, God bless their pure little souls, never **EVER** lie…! :rolleyes:

😕

As Wee Willie Keeler liked to say, “Hit 'em where they ain’t”.

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-election/633632/32 "2012-09-05T09:35:12Z")

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I thought it was in reference to “We Built This”?

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**Author:** ![Zep\_Tepi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/59ef9b/32.png) [@Zep\_Tepi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zep_Tepi)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-election/633632/33 "2012-09-05T11:10:24Z")

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I also remember your present incumbent saying “VOTE FOR ME AND I WILL CREATE 2 MILLION NEW JOBS” Yeah right!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-election/633632/34 "2012-09-05T15:56:43Z")

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> [@Zep\_Tepi](#):
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> I also remember your present incumbent saying “VOTE FOR ME AND I WILL CREATE 2 MILLION NEW JOBS” Yeah right!

You remember him saying that?

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**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-election/633632/35 "2012-09-05T16:06:50Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Fun fact: Obama is actually dyslexic. He spent the whole campaign unsuccessfully trying to give a shout out to his good friend Kanye West.

Bravo!

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-election/633632/36 "2012-09-05T16:09:40Z")

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> [@Zep\_Tepi](#):
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> I also remember your present incumbent saying “VOTE FOR ME AND I WILL CREATE 2 MILLION NEW JOBS” Yeah right!

He did.

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**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-election/633632/37 "2012-09-05T16:09:58Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> We’re talking about the Romney campaign. Jenny Jones qualifies as a current pop culture reference.
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> This is the campaign where Paul Ryan name-dropped Led Zeppelin in making a joke about how much hipper he was than Mitt Romney.
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> Seriously, when was the last time Led Zeppelin was considered relevant? 1977?

This. I know (and love) Zep, but it’s grandpa music. Seriously. Next he’ll be dropping a Benny Goodman reference.

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-election/633632/38 "2012-09-05T16:23:23Z")

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I have noticed the Republicans no longer use the cute accident of calling him Barack O **s** ama anymore…wonder why they stopped doing that?

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**Author:** ![Sudden\_Kestrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@Sudden\_Kestrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sudden_Kestrel)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-election/633632/39 "2012-09-05T17:08:27Z")

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> [@Zep\_Tepi](#):
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> I also remember your present incumbent saying “VOTE FOR ME AND I WILL CREATE 2 MILLION NEW JOBS” Yeah right!

Well, at least _his_ exclamation made sense.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2012, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-election/633632/40 "2012-09-05T17:35:12Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Wrong. **Everybody** does it and it’s **always** reprehensible. But humanity being what it is, I’m sure the tradition will live on.
> 
> Not believing Democrats would make me a Republican only if you think in one dimension. I haven’t bothered to vote since 1988, and I probably never will again because (a) I recognize what a farce the system is (and it gets worse every four years) and (b) I just no longer give a good goddamn.

As you first posted while this thread was still in IMHO, I would say the appropriate rebuttal would be that you’re not really entitled to an opinion.

Now that it’s in Elections, I think your participation in the thread is difficult to comprehend.

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